Sjogren’s Syndrome: The Autoimmune Disease That Causes Dryness With Divya Dhawan


Sjögren's syndrome is an autoimmune disease that causes dryness. The symptoms can be mild, or they can be severe enough to interfere with daily activities. There is no cure for Sjögren's syndrome, but treatments are available to help relieve the symptoms. This interview provides an overview of the condition and its treatment options.
Key Take-Aways From The Episode
- What is Sjögren's syndrome?
- How does one get Sjögren's syndrome?
- What causes Sjögren's syndrome?
- What are the symptoms caused by Sjögren's syndrome?
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Divya Dhawan is a BOARD CERT. TRANSFORMATIONAL HEALTH COACH | SJOGREN'S THRIVER | SPEAKER | SCEINTIFIC AND HOLISTIC.
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I'm a certified integrative nutrition health
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coach. And I specialize in working with women
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who have Sjogren's syndrome. Sjogren's syndrome,
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not many people know what it is, although it's
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Very much present in US alone. There are 4 million
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people who are diagnosed with this syndrome every
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year. And 90 % of them are actually women. So
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I help women who have Sjogren's syndrome with
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their symptoms, which are dry eyes, dry mouth,
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joint pains, autoimmune -like symptoms. And I
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help them to go from disease to ease. And that
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is what I do. And Sjogren's syndrome, for all
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the listeners who don't know what Sjogren's syndrome
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is, it is an autoimmune condition in which the
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body's defense system starts attacking the library
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glands and all the wet glands in the body, which
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are present in the eyes, the mouth, the nose,
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even in the lungs and digestive system. And these
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are just primary symptoms. And these are also
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associated with many other symptoms, and it is
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a systemic disorder. It is also associated with
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rheumatoid arthritis. It can also be accompanied
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with lupus, fibromyalgia, which is a chronic
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fatigue syndrome, and many other autoimmune disorders
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as well, digestive issues, issues with the lungs,
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neuropathy, Raynaud syndrome, many other symptoms.
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So that is what Sjogren's syndrome is, and I
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help. And I'm really passionate about helping
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women with this condition because of my own journey
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with this condition. I was diagnosed with Sjogren's
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syndrome a couple of years ago, and it's been
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eight years now, and I'm happy to say that I'm
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in remission. And that is what fuels me to work
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with these women and help them. So I have a question.
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Is this possible? Is it possible for men to get
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this as well? It is possible, yes. 90 % of people
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who are diagnosed with Sjogren's are women, but
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the rest 10 % are men. So men do have it too,
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for sure. And what is caused by it? Is it like
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too much blue light from the computer screen,
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TV screen, et cetera, or not enough sleep? Yeah,
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sure. So all autoimmune disorders are caused
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because of one single reason, which is actually
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the intestines or the digestive system not working
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very well. And almost everyone who has autoimmune
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disorders has the condition called leaky gut,
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where the gut and blood barrier is compromised
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and because of which the immune system starts
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attacking. the toxins which enter the bloodstream
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from the guts. So that is really the main cause.
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But that can happen because of many reasons,
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which can be stress, which can be nutritional
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deficiencies. It can also be mold or chronic
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infections. And stress is also one of them. So
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there can be multiple reasons for. autoimmune
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disorders to start in any person. It can also
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be infections like some viral infections also
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trigger the autoimmune disorders. And the thing
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is, in every person, how the autoimmune condition
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manifests is different. And so there are so many
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different names of so many different autoimmune
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disorders. So how did you get into this? I know
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you said that you were dealing with it. as well
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but i mean just a first focusing on you but then
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uh then how come you were became so passionate
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about it sure yeah that's a very nice question
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because when i was able to heal myself at that
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point i did meet many other people who had autoimmune
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conditions and it almost every third or fourth
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person you meet has some autoimmune condition.
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And, you know, I started having this feeling
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that I have been able to heal myself. And then,
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so it is not something impossible. If I can do
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it, others can do it too. And, but the thing
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is everyone, you know, it's very nice when people
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have a guide or a coach to help them through
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this journey, because it can be a daunting journey.
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Healing is not. Healing your autoimmune condition
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is not so easy. And with the help of someone
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and a qualified coach who also has the experience
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in the same condition, it becomes so much more
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easier. And so I did feel that it's kind of my
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calling to help everyone who has autoimmune conditions
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to let them know that, you know, that is not
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a life sentence for them because the conventional
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medicine and the medical system only has one
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answer for all the autoimmune conditions. all
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the people who have autoimmune conditions, I'm
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sorry, that this is how it's going to be and
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we can only manage the symptoms and we cannot
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really have a cure for this. And this is a life
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sentence, really. And so that's what made me
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become a health coach. And so how does one heal
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that? Sure. Healing. is a long process. So it
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does take time. But the first step is to look
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at what we eat because from, you know, as Hippocrates
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has always, you know, we always hear what Hippocrates
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has said, let food be thy medicine. So food is
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really the medicine if taken in the right way.
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And so starting with changing your food habits
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is the first step to start your healing. You
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know, they always said, you are what you eat.
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You are what you eat, yes. I know for myself,
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I've been... I know for myself, I can't watch
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TV at night much anymore. I stopped my TV time
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around like... I can go until like, let's say
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830 ish. And then I'm, and then I'm like, okay,
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I'm done with TV or I'm done with social media.
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And then I'm calling it a night. Just because
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it just, the blue light kind of just gets to
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my eyes after a while. I wouldn't say I have
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any eye problems. It just. You know, since I
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work a lot online, my school's online because
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of COVID, I'm just like, you know, sure, why
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not? The only time when I use my technology at
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night, my computer, is that it has like a very,
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I put it on like super high blast. a blue light
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filter on my computer and it has it's like it's
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blue it's blue it's pretty much gold like gold
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light and so that doesn't bother my eyes but
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and it's really funny I just did this somebody
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on my podcast before or maybe it was when I was
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on a guest appearance and I was like why can't
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they put blue light filters And smart TVs now.
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And it's like, you think it would be some kind
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of setting in the menu of the TV? I was like,
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we have everything else on the smart TV. So I
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was like, we probably have the technology to
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do it. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. I mean, I know how
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to put a black, blue light filter on my. phone
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in the nighttime. So I have that setting right
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after 8 .30 or 9. I switch that on if I'm on
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the phone. So actually the screen just becomes
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red and all the blue light is gone. So I'm sure
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that there must be some setting that we can use
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on the TV. I don't know that yet, but that's
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a great point you've brought up. if you ever
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find a setting like that please let me know because
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i'm i'm i've always been looking like we have
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all these smart devices and everything it's like
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why can't we invent something that's built in
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it's like we did it for our phones and computers
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the next thing i could see uh oh and you know
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gps has the night mode on it so why can't we
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have a night mode on tv come on yeah Yeah, absolutely.
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I understand. And I know there must be some hack.
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I just don't know about it. And if I do get to
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know for sure, I'm going to let you know. Because
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I'm definitely going to figure out, you're going
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to figure it out, or someone's going to figure
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it out. I'm surprised the billion -dollar companies
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haven't figured it out yet. They're so smart
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and everything, but we haven't come up with this
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technology yet. Come on. Yeah, I know. They should
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have a blue light filter as well. Because it
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really messes up with the sleep, the blue light.
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And then they have blue light filter glasses
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too. So get with the program here, guys. Google,
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So do you have any suggestions and tips for people
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to avoid this kind of disease? Yeah, I mean,
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the first thing is watch your stress levels because
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stress is really the reason for all autoimmune
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disorders. It's almost for every autoimmune disorder.
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That is what the doctor will also tell you. It
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is the stress that causes autoimmune disorders.
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And I know there's so much stress around us.
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It's not easy to do that. But having some mind
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and body practice in place, which you practice
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every single day, Really helps with managing
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the stress that we have. It's not going to take
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the stress away, but at least it will help us
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manage the stress in a better way so that it
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doesn't affect our bodies. And then starting
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with probiotics, because almost all of us are
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these days deficient in good bacteria in our
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microbiome, which help with maintaining good
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gut health. That is where I would suggest everyone
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to start. And I think that itself should help
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a lot. And for people who don't know about probiotics,
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could you list some? Even though I know what
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the probiotics are, maybe some people don't know.
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Yeah, sure. So in our bodies, more than our...
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we actually have bacteria and not just bacteria,
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in fact, many other microorganisms which contribute
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to the microbiome that we have. And they also
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help in almost every body function inside our
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bodies. And the most important body function,
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which is digestion, which regulates everything
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else in the body is also regulated by the microbiome.
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And there's a very delicate balance of good and
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bad bacteria. I would say the good guys and the
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bad guys rather than just the bacteria because
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there's so many other microorganisms. And that
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when we take the probiotics, we're actually adding
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on to the good guys inside our body, mainly the
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good bacteria, which help regulate every other
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microorganism and create that balance in our
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gut system. And so probiotics are... Really different
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forms of colony forming units of bacteria, which
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help with maintaining the gut health. And they
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are available off of Amazon. There are many supplements
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out there. But what I suggest is really taking
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real food probiotics, which means things like
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sauerkraut, kimchi, sourdough bread, even kombucha
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is very good and kefir. So kefir water or milk
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kefir also is very good. And the dairy can always
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be replaced by things like almond milk or coconut
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milk and things that don't hurt the body but
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still have the good bacteria in it. Is yogurt
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considered to be a good bacteria? Yes, yes, it
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is. Yogurt is considered good bacteria and a
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very good probiotic if you can tolerate dairy.
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You know, I'll tell you a quick story about how
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I got into eating yogurt. I used to watch a show
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called Burn Notice on USA Today Network. And
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it's about a spy who got burned and blacklisted
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and everything. But he always ate so much yogurt.
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And he always liked to say, he was pretty much
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every episode, he was eating some yogurt in the
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show. And I was like, and like pretty much his
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whole refrigerator is stocked with yogurt. And
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it's like, if I have my own house, I'm going
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to have just a refrigerator just full of yogurt.
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That's good. I mean, yogurt is definitely a very
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good source of probiotic. I'm glad that, you
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know, that show was able to inspire you to have
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yogurt. That's great. But, you know, the thing
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that you need to take care of is the store -bought
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yogurts might not be a very good choice because
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they have a lot of sugar and other chemicals
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in it, which actually defeat the purpose of probiotics.
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Because good bacteria cannot thrive in a medium
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which is full of sugar. So trying to make your
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own yogurt or at least getting plain yogurt,
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which doesn't have any sugar, might be the best
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option. The one I use for yogurt only has like
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four grams of sugar in it, but there's no added
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sugar at all, just a small amount of sugar. I
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mean, maybe it's not the best, but I mean, and
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this is not a better option. It's one of the
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better options. It's not like the, I would say
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maybe not the healthiest, but it's still something.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I'm still searching.
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Kind of figure, just trying to figure out what
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my grocery store sells and it's not like super
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overpriced. Because, you know, super expensive
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doesn't mean super good and healthy. Absolutely
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not, yeah. I learned that the hard way. That's
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another story for another time. I would love
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to hear it. So for you, just out of curiosity,
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do you ever find yourself into... many stressful
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situations? Can you repeat that? I'm sorry. Do
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you ever find yourself in many stressful situations?
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Like what are some things that cause you stress?
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Yeah, I mean, we all have stress. Stress doesn't
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come selectively. It comes to everyone. We all
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have stress. I do have, I mean, I have kids who
00:18:47.059 --> 00:18:49.839
have grown up now, but when they were teenagers,
00:18:50.019 --> 00:18:53.819
it was stressful. And when they were young, it
00:18:53.819 --> 00:18:57.619
was even more stressful. And there are many sources
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of stress, actually. You know, for example, when
00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.059
the COVID started, I was highly stressed because
00:19:03.059 --> 00:19:05.519
I didn't know what's going on. And I was actually
00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:07.839
absorbing the collective stress that was going
00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:12.859
on in the world. And I had to really slow down
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and understand what is going on in my head and
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then, you know, calm it down. So stress is always
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there. You know, in everyday situations, stress
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comes up in some form or the other. It's how
00:19:27.099 --> 00:19:32.039
we manage it and how we work around with it that
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matters. Well, I know for myself, there was maybe
00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.680
like a week or two ago, beginning of this year,
00:19:42.859 --> 00:19:48.759
I was feeling a little extra stress. And I was
00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:51.299
stressed right around the beginning. COVID as
00:19:51.299 --> 00:19:55.960
well, because I was taking on a lot of news by
00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:00.880
all the COVID information. I was like, who's
00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:05.460
right? Who's wrong? And what's going on? Then
00:20:05.460 --> 00:20:09.319
eventually I just kind of just kind of, I wouldn't
00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:12.359
say I'm living under a rock, but I've limited
00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:17.900
my intake of COVID -19 news because I was like,
00:20:17.980 --> 00:20:21.660
I'll check maybe once a week. And that's it,
00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:26.859
because I still find it good to be informed on
00:20:26.859 --> 00:20:30.119
stuff. But then I'm like reading other stuff
00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:34.259
because there's only so much my brain can take
00:20:34.259 --> 00:20:38.839
in information. And because there's still a lot
00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:43.640
of that is unknown about COVID -19 and everything.
00:20:43.779 --> 00:20:48.639
I'm like, until they find something new. and
00:20:48.639 --> 00:20:51.579
something breaks through about it, I'm done listening
00:20:51.579 --> 00:20:55.559
at the moment. Yeah, and that's a great step
00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:59.819
because, I mean, believe it or not, all news
00:20:59.819 --> 00:21:02.380
is negative for some reason because that is what
00:21:02.380 --> 00:21:06.480
feeds the world. But, you know, especially with
00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:08.819
autoimmune conditions and for actually for everyone,
00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:12.460
there's only a limit to the kind of amount of
00:21:12.460 --> 00:21:15.460
negativity we can take in. So limiting that time
00:21:15.460 --> 00:21:18.490
definitely. Definitely helps. And I did that
00:21:18.490 --> 00:21:21.130
the same thing when this whole COVID thing started
00:21:21.130 --> 00:21:25.730
in 2020. And that helped me lower down my stress
00:21:25.730 --> 00:21:28.490
levels. So I think you're doing a good job in
00:21:28.490 --> 00:21:30.970
that. I am what you call an indie podcaster.
00:21:31.150 --> 00:21:34.470
If I run out of money, there's nobody backing
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I've also been, and before we got into this podcast
00:23:25.549 --> 00:23:29.109
interview, I was telling you I was kind of sprinkling
00:23:29.109 --> 00:23:32.509
around my stuff with technology and everything.
00:23:35.529 --> 00:23:39.009
I've been putting I've been finding some all
00:23:39.009 --> 00:23:42.410
-in -one tools like I've used I'm using Notion
00:23:42.410 --> 00:23:49.009
to just help me keep track of just basically
00:23:49.009 --> 00:23:51.490
saving my everyday articles that I find like
00:23:51.490 --> 00:23:58.650
recipes and blog posts ideas podcast ideas etc
00:23:58.650 --> 00:24:02.890
in one place because you know when you have many
00:24:02.890 --> 00:24:07.299
I tell you I think I have like six or seven different
00:24:07.299 --> 00:24:11.839
email addresses. And each one comes with their
00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.160
own cloud storage and everything. Right. And
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.220
when you have stuff all scattered all over the
00:24:18.220 --> 00:24:22.000
different cloud storages, it's like, I'm just
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:24.339
wasting my time from going from one thing to
00:24:24.339 --> 00:24:26.779
another thing to another thing. And I was like,
00:24:26.859 --> 00:24:31.779
this is stupid. And one of my goals was to...
00:24:32.809 --> 00:24:37.210
2021 was just to go through all my email accounts
00:24:37.210 --> 00:24:42.230
uh and um and everything and put them in into
00:24:42.230 --> 00:24:46.349
an organized place where i can just okay here's
00:24:46.349 --> 00:24:49.910
my bookmarks that literally syncs across devices
00:24:49.910 --> 00:24:54.710
like in a second i save it on one device i turn
00:24:54.710 --> 00:24:57.549
around to my other computer it's already there
00:24:57.549 --> 00:24:59.670
and it's like i didn't have to wait for it to
00:24:59.670 --> 00:25:03.059
refresh it just literally i just open it up hey
00:25:03.059 --> 00:25:07.680
it's already there this is this is insane no
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:13.319
i'm uh i don't know about it it's called notion
00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:16.460
it's like the it's it's like a it's literally
00:25:16.460 --> 00:25:21.559
a lights lifesaver for me uh because and i know
00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:24.440
someone might say something i could argue is
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:27.900
like well when that kind of make you feel that
00:25:27.900 --> 00:25:32.250
um I'm going to make you feel very overwhelmed
00:25:32.250 --> 00:25:35.970
that stuff is all in one place. Well, if you
00:25:35.970 --> 00:25:39.190
have different pages and different groups, not
00:25:39.190 --> 00:25:43.670
necessarily. I also use this other one called
00:25:43.670 --> 00:25:46.990
a stack browser, which basically is kind of like
00:25:46.990 --> 00:25:50.109
a web browser, but I only put my most important
00:25:50.109 --> 00:25:54.869
websites I use every single day of the week.
00:25:59.230 --> 00:26:03.930
promoting my posts and podcasts all in one place
00:26:03.930 --> 00:26:08.009
because i don't find the web browser to be very
00:26:08.009 --> 00:26:12.049
productive because you could be instantly hey
00:26:12.049 --> 00:26:15.670
i'm gonna go to um let's say i don't know to
00:26:15.670 --> 00:26:20.619
to your website login let's say And then you
00:26:20.619 --> 00:26:23.339
could be thinking of some kind of, and then your
00:26:23.339 --> 00:26:26.220
mind just literally starts thinking about a YouTube
00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:28.559
video. And it's like, hey, let's get to YouTube
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:31.059
real quick. And then you just type in YouTube
00:26:31.059 --> 00:26:35.000
and then you could either A, catch yourself and
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.779
go back to the other tab that you have open,
00:26:38.859 --> 00:26:42.839
or you can continue to YouTube and waste your
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:47.359
time on YouTube. And so I find this to be a very
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:51.420
helpful tool because it's like, Well, I have
00:26:51.420 --> 00:26:53.319
all my stuff in one spot. I don't have to go
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.240
searching on the web for each login and everything.
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.279
Everything is right there. I don't have an excuse
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:05.640
to not continue with my work. Yeah, that's definitely.
00:27:06.220 --> 00:27:08.680
I mean, getting on the web, it's very distracting.
00:27:08.859 --> 00:27:14.119
So that's a really good way to do things. I'm
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:18.500
learning. And one more thing before. I've also
00:27:18.500 --> 00:27:25.259
been sorting through my emails. I've been getting
00:27:25.259 --> 00:27:28.759
a lot of speaking requests, particularly on different
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:36.200
people's podcasts and convention invites. So
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.839
what I've been doing, I've been putting all my
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:44.799
shopping newsletters and some other newsletters
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:49.460
that I get into. other tool called stoop inbox
00:27:49.460 --> 00:27:53.700
and what's kind of cool about it is is that um
00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:57.019
it it's kind of like having another email address
00:27:57.019 --> 00:28:02.000
uh well i mean it is but uh but what it what
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.240
it does is it helps mask your privacy information
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:08.980
so companies can't sell your uh information to
00:28:08.980 --> 00:28:13.519
other companies that's interesting and uh and
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:20.359
once you unsubscribe from that list, you're totally
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:22.640
unsubscribed. It's not like you're subscribed
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.380
to 50 lists and you have to go through unsubscribe,
00:28:26.579 --> 00:28:30.119
unsubscribe, unsubscribe, unsubscribe. It's you
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:35.400
unsubscribe. That's it. No more. And so I've
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.660
been putting on my shopping ones and just all
00:28:38.660 --> 00:28:44.380
those other newsletters that the ones that most
00:28:44.380 --> 00:28:48.779
frequently offering me stuff in that tool and
00:28:48.779 --> 00:28:52.619
i don't mind newsletters it is i and i've been
00:28:52.619 --> 00:28:57.859
um saying to my family members is that it's not
00:28:57.859 --> 00:29:01.380
like that i hate newsletters it is i hate newsletters
00:29:01.380 --> 00:29:04.859
and emails in the same exact place because it's
00:29:04.859 --> 00:29:07.480
like well i just want my read my newsletters
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.380
but when i'm missing when i can't find a certain
00:29:11.380 --> 00:29:15.279
link to a podcast like a Zoom link or some other
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.720
tool that someone uses for their podcast. It's
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:24.059
like, I can't find anything. My brain is cluttered.
00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:27.880
My inbox is cluttered. I don't like it. Yeah,
00:29:27.940 --> 00:29:32.160
yeah. I can totally relate to that. I know why
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:34.119
the song is called Silent Night, because now
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.619
when I don't have any emails, I'm like, I thought
00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:45.480
I was very popular. I'm happy it's clean. Now
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.339
I'm not sure if it was just a bunch of clutter
00:29:48.339 --> 00:29:52.259
or I don't know. Yeah, I'll have to take a lot
00:29:52.259 --> 00:29:56.460
of notes from you for sure. So how do you manage
00:29:56.460 --> 00:30:02.319
your stress? Just out of curiosity. So the main,
00:30:02.339 --> 00:30:05.740
the first thing is to actually understand what
00:30:05.740 --> 00:30:07.920
is causing the stress, right? Because if you
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.819
don't know the reason. that is causing the stress,
00:30:10.940 --> 00:30:15.000
it's almost impossible to eliminate it. And then
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.339
just wrapping your head around the fact that
00:30:19.339 --> 00:30:24.640
and calming down and trying to not let the situation
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:29.180
affect you is what I do. And then I also use
00:30:29.180 --> 00:30:32.099
a lot of mind -body practices like yoga, like
00:30:32.099 --> 00:30:37.279
meditation. And honestly, for most people doing
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:39.839
things they love doing, It's just, you know,
00:30:39.859 --> 00:30:43.019
kind of like a meditation. So for me, gardening
00:30:43.019 --> 00:30:47.220
really helped. I love gardening. I love growing
00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:50.279
a lot of things in my backyard. So whenever I'm,
00:30:50.299 --> 00:30:53.839
you know, full of... I am what you call an indie
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.539
podcaster. If I run out of money, there's nobody
00:30:57.539 --> 00:31:00.740
backing Crazy Fitness Guy. How you can support
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00:32:04.150 --> 00:32:08.920
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00:32:19.619 --> 00:32:24.539
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00:32:24.539 --> 00:32:29.660
you for all your support for the years, and I'm
00:32:29.660 --> 00:32:33.140
looking forward to continue making content just
00:32:33.140 --> 00:32:36.140
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and see which plan is right for you. My head
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.779
is full of stress. I just try to release it by
00:32:46.779 --> 00:32:50.299
doing gardening. I love music. And so that is
00:32:50.299 --> 00:32:55.059
also one of the ways in which I remove the stress
00:32:55.059 --> 00:32:57.700
by listening to music because it just calms me
00:32:57.700 --> 00:33:00.759
down instantly. And of course, yoga and meditation
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:03.640
are also there, which I use from time to time.
00:33:04.140 --> 00:33:10.960
And that is how I reduce my stress. Basically,
00:33:10.980 --> 00:33:13.539
anyone could literally find me every single day
00:33:13.539 --> 00:33:21.440
listening to music. Blessing some ACDC. And I'm
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.380
surprised my next -door neighbor hasn't complained
00:33:23.380 --> 00:33:31.700
about my ACDC. It's not super loud, but somewhat
00:33:31.700 --> 00:33:35.829
loud. It's not like it's blasting it at night.
00:33:35.930 --> 00:33:38.970
I'm just playing it a little bit loud so I can
00:33:38.970 --> 00:33:41.609
mask my ringing in my ear when I don't wear my
00:33:41.609 --> 00:33:46.210
hearing aids. I usually wear my hearing aids,
00:33:46.269 --> 00:33:50.170
but after karate, sometimes I just like, do I
00:33:50.170 --> 00:33:52.289
feel like putting it back in when I have to go
00:33:52.289 --> 00:33:54.710
somewhere else and have to put my mask on? Because
00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:57.170
I have a bet that there's not a mask for hearing
00:33:57.170 --> 00:34:01.730
aids. Somebody needs to invent that. Not me.
00:34:04.930 --> 00:34:09.590
So before we wrap up, where can people find you?
00:34:11.170 --> 00:34:13.510
Sure, yeah. So people can find me on all the
00:34:13.510 --> 00:34:18.849
social media handles. I am present on Facebook.
00:34:18.989 --> 00:34:21.750
I'm present on Instagram. I'm also present on
00:34:21.750 --> 00:34:25.170
LinkedIn. But the best way to get in touch with
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me is actually going onto my website and... There's
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a tab called Let's Talk. So they can just hit
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that, get an appointment with me, and we can
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sit and discuss the best next steps for their
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healing journey and what's the best option for
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them. So that's the best way to get in touch
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with me. Also, I have a wonderful community of
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people who have Sjogren's on Facebook, which
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is a free Facebook group. And joining that also
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is another way of getting in touch with me. I
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would encourage all the listeners who think that
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they need help with their Sjogren's or autoimmune
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to get in touch with me and we can talk further
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about their condition. And just one more question
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before I let you go. How many years have you
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been helping people with this? I've been helping
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a lot of friends and I'm recently started my
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business. So I'm almost like eight to nine months
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into it, but I've been always helping my friends
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with different issues. And thanks for coming
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on crazy fitness guys, healthy living podcast.
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I hope you'd be willing to come back again for
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another visit. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thanks
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for having me, Jimmy. And let's stay in touch.
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