Shockingly, Public Schools Are Still Struggling With Special Education With Tom
There are a number of problems with special education in public schools. First, the funding is not always adequate, which means that many schools do not have the resources they need to provide a quality education for students with extra challenges. Second, the way special education is implemented in public schools often relies on a one-size-fits-all approach, which can be ineffective and/or harmful to individual students.
Key Take-Aways From The Episode
- The issues of special education
- The problems faced by special needs students in the classroom
- How to change special education for the better?
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Tom is a special education teacher assistant and he is also the host of Podjerky.
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this episode There we go. Yeah. So what is it
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that you exactly want to do? Like what challenges
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are you looking at? Like from whose perspective?
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Probably just in general. Like when I was in
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special education, I remember there was some
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questionable classroom. where the classrooms
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or space is available. Like I remember one of
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the classrooms I was in it was in it was the
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only classroom down there's one hallway that
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it was next to the bathrooms but the whole but
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the whole hallway smells like let's just say
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like I know exactly what you're talking about
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yeah it sounds like a bathroom but it smells
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all like sewage and everything it's like and
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this is sanitary Well, that's usually where the
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special education rooms are, is in like the basement.
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And they're usually by a washroom. I don't know
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if that's for emergencies, so that if they do
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have to use the washroom and they're not fully
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capable, like I've worked with students that
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can't use the washroom on their own. So you have
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to like run them to the washroom. So maybe that's
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a reason why they're closer to the washroom.
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or it's because they want them out of the way
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of everybody else's classroom. I can't tell what
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what the reasoning is because I don't set that
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up. I don't set up where the classrooms are.
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I definitely understand that like uh but that
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was like one of the ideas I came up with like,
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well, the location always seems to be like an
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afterthought. And it wasn't just that scenario
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where, like we used to have when I was in middle
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school, we upgraded from like a smallish kind
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of room, I'd say like medium size to like a very
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large size where we can actually move around
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in. And we got like, we got like prime time location
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it was like it had like nice glass see -through
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windows and everything and it was like really
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cool i got right next to the front door the main
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office and everything so you get to see everyone
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who's coming and going and and like but then
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what's funny years later when I came back to
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visit, just out of curiosity, I was visiting
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one of my teachers that made a big impact on
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my life. She showed me her new room and it was
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the old janitor's closet and it had no window,
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no view, and I was like, well gee, you know,
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imagine if I was a parent bringing my life for
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parent -teacher conference and say well this
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seems like a broom closet and the teacher like
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how do they react and say well that's the funny
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thing it was. Yeah see I can tell you that it's
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hard because I've worked in multiple schools
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so it's been different at every school that I've
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worked at. The school that I'm currently at we
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basically have our own section on a floor so
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there are four classrooms. But one is kind of
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like just a closed -in room. There's no windows.
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It's just a double door, like one door in and
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then one door to the next classroom over. But
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it's different because that student had to be
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separated from the rest of the students because
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he was very physical. He was very violent. He
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wouldn't be able to be in a general classroom.
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So I was with him with another adult in a classroom
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by ourselves just for that reason, because the
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student was too physical for the rest of the
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class and he would hurt other students. So he
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had to be pulled into another classroom on his
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own. And then there's classrooms that are full
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of students with special needs in this department.
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So, I mean, it's... It's totally different and
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other schools, we would all be in one classroom
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and the classroom was OK. I mean, it wasn't the
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greatest classroom, but it suited the needs for
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the kids. OK, so in your opinion, what do you
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think? What do you think the challenges of special
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occasion are for workers? Yeah, so for for myself,
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a lot of the challenges for us would be. handling
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the violence, like the physical violence. Like
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I work in high school right now, so I get the
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bigger kids than elementary school kids. When
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I'm with the high school kids, it's a little
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tougher because I'm a male. There aren't a lot
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of male education assistants and what happens
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with the males is that they give us the bigger
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students because we're physically bigger and
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we can handle the physical students a lot. better,
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I guess, than the women do. Not to say that the
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women can't handle them, but at the same time,
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it's just, you know, the student I was working
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with for the past four years was bigger than
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I am. And I'm bigger than most of the females
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at my school. So I mean, it just makes sense
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Do you think there's any challenging parts for
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these students in special education today? Oh,
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yeah, absolutely. They have the issue I see in
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schools is that their workers get switched too
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much. So there's no consistency with their workers.
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You will have one worker one day, another worker
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another day. There's not enough staff to cover
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the amount of students there are in the departments.
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So I think that consistency isn't there for kids
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that are on the spectrum, and they need that
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repetitiveness, right? I don't know how you are
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with that, but the repetitiveness for a lot of
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kids on the spectrum, they require that. So every
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day would be the same schedule. Come in, go to
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your locker, come sit down at your desk and do
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some work, then go for a walk. And they know
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that routine every day. and if somebody different
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is working with them they may not know that route
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and then it gets pulled away from them and then
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they you know they start to get frustrated because
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they can't communicate that you know this is
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not what we do. Yeah I definitely can relate
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to that 100 percent because back in high school
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we like back in high school and middle school,
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whenever time I had a one -on -one helper and
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when my helper was out because they were sick
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or she was sick or whoever was sick, I always
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got a substitute and it was like the worst possible
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thing I've had to deal with because just some
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of them were like, I mean, not trying to like
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be rude or anything but they were kind of like
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they were definitely clueless at times and when
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I tried to fill them in like some of them listened
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and some of them did not want to listen and I
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was like are you making this up and I was like
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uh I don't think I can make this whole scenario
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up yeah it's it's difficult because um like I
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said like the the consistency isn't there right
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it's it's tough especially with non -verbal kids
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um it's uh like they're so used to that routine
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every day and and it gets out of uh control sometimes
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and then you know one of the other challenges
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that you face is you don't know you know some
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of the parents don't want to communicate with
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um the workers so if i have a student and the
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parents don't communicate with you you don't
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know how the morning went or how the night went
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like did they sleep well and so we find that
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a lot like that happens a lot with some of the
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students that we work with that the parents don't
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communicate that they had an off night or an
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off morning and then they come into school and
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they're very very amped up and you know all over
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the place and we're trying to calm down the situation.
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before it gets out of hand and then, you know,
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there's physical violence that happens just because
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they're frustrated. And I understand, but at
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some points they have to go home because they're
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a danger or they may injure another student.
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So, you know, that's another challenge that we
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face with some of the students that we work with.
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Do you think it also is a challenge to the students
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that they can't that some of them are not able
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to like sit still and they're kind of like oh
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I need to get up and get the hell out of this
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place and because I know very big challenge yes
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yeah very big challenge there's a lot of students
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that they just want to get up and be you know,
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walking around or doing something physical. And,
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you know, I've worked with students that will
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sit at their desk and do their work and just,
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you know, it just takes a little bit of extra
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time. But I've also worked with students that,
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you know, you just say, OK, let's just get this
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one this one task done and then we'll do, you
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know, a walk or we'll go to the gym or we'll
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go, you know, wherever it is around the school
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to do something in terms of physical activity.
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But, you know, that is a challenge. Yes, absolutely.
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and uh do you think that some of the uh do you
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think people on uh do you think the schools need
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to like rethink the locations of the special
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education classes and so i just like giving like
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a second thought like with that like maybe like
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okay you know we're just gonna put these people
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down all the way in the very very bottom of the
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school with the rats or I somewhat I somewhat
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agree and disagree with that because agree yes
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because they're always put in in the basements
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like from my personal experience um but I also
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agree because there are a lot of disruptions
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that happen Especially if you're working with
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high, high needs, like lower on the spectrum
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students, we have a lot of those in our school
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that make a lot of noise, that scream, that are
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violent, that throw like chairs or tables or
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whatever it is. And I think they try to keep
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that away from the general population as to not
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distract the classes that are going on and the
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learning that's going on. So they figure. If
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we put them in the basement, there's still other
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classrooms in the basement. We're just in our
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own section. So we have four classrooms in part
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of the hallway. And then at the other end of
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the hallway, there's another four classrooms.
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But it's separated by a stairwell that goes up
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to the next floor. So we're still in the same
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floor as other classrooms. It's just that we're
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separated in our own little section. just I guess
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so that the noise level doesn't happen like we
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had a lot of noise coming out of our classrooms.
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One of the other challenges I think is that some
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of the workers that that work with special needs
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kids and I say this very often is that there's
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a lot of older people that are working in special
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needs right now and when they were starting off
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in the job it wasn't the same as it is today.
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And there weren't as many tasks as there is today.
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And I guess the younger generation that's coming
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up and starting the jobs for special education
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have gotten a little bit more training in certain
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situations and know how to deal with certain
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situations a little more than the older generation.
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And that's not a knock on the older generation
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at all, because they're still doing a fantastic
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job keeping up with. um all the current situations
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that are going on it's just that they were so
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used to a certain way of doing things and then
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things progressively changed during the course
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of you know the past 20 years that they're still
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you know try their old ways which may not work
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anymore and uh we find that to be a challenge
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sometimes too because not everybody knows what
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to do and I think generally as a school board
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I think there should be more training for everybody.
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and how to deal with certain situations. Makes
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sense. Just trying to think if I have a... Ask
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away because you know what we're going to do?
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We're going to use this recording both you and
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I and we're going to put this into an episode.
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I'll edit it. I'll even edit it for you. Sure.
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Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. No, this will be good
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because this is a good, good chat because you're
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going to get it into a blog and then I'll get
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you to record maybe like a little intro part
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to it and I'll record an intro part to it and
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I'll put one up for me and one up for you. Like
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we'll do one for you as well. Awesome. Like what
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are the challenges that you face that you see
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as a student with the teacher like as a with
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an assistant or a teacher being in a classroom
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in a special education classroom? What are some
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of the challenges that you see? When I was in
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special education back in I wouldn't say from
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a high school point of view because when I was
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in high school because middle school I really
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liked I was in like one special education class
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for all my major subjects and everything so I
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didn't have to go from one class to another class
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only for my electives but in high school I had
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to jump from every single class and I don't I
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think it was totally bogus I had to do that and
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of that because there was this hallway that they
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the teacher and some teachers hated people being
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late and it's like it's not my fault and some
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teachers like tell me like well get here in time
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early well how do i do that and then i started
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working with some of my let's say more laid -back
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kind of teachers but I mean they still like were
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hard but they weren't like okay well I'm just
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gonna I'm gonna stop being ball -busted to you.
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What these people, what the laid -back teachers
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did like they started to let me go out of class
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like the last five minutes of class because obviously
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they're just going over what's due for homework
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and I have my teacher for a homeroom, my history
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teacher for a homeroom and so if I missed the
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last five minutes and like I had to stay home
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the next, like the next period so I could come
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right back to his classroom and say, hey, I need
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clarification and whatnot. And so they saw, let
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me, some of my teachers let me leave class early.
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But what I saw was my English teacher, she was
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in 12th grade. I think she kind of taught, I
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think she was like, there one too many years
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and uh I think she just I think what worked for
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her years ago did not necessarily work for me
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and she she thought I feel like she thought she
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could teach it she could have people learn at
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every single um at one level like one size fits
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all and it was totally annoying because like
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we were reading all these absurd books. Like
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one of them was The Great Gatsby. And I've heard
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of it. I never read it. I mean, I read it for
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a class, but I didn't even count it as a reading
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list on my personal library on Goodreads because
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I didn't even like, I'm really good at memorizing
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like what I read in books and whatnot. I don't
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remember what the hell I read. It was all a blur.
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And I was just trying to think. And there was
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times where she came in my study hall class.
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I was done with all my homework assignments.
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And she walks by and she says to me, you're supposed
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to be working at study hall. I'm already finished.
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And I go, yeah, well, let me see. She sits down.
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She makes me watch her. And there's one time.
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It was most annoying. I can answer this one question
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on this study guide that she was having a stint
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fill out and everything. She's like, oh, that's
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in the book. It's in the book, really. That's
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why I can't find it. And so she made me watch
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her flip through every single page in the book,
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scanning each page. I think it was like a 100
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-plus page book or something. And at the end
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of the study hall, she admits, you're right.
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The question wasn't in the book. I was like,
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gee, I'm right. Thank you. Thanks, Captain Obvious.
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And I probably shouldn't have been a smart ass
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to her, but she just kept on calling me lazy
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after lazy after lazy. And I was getting straight
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A's. If that makes me lazy, then let me try to
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get straight F's then. You know, I kind of see
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that every day as well throughout the different
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schools that I've been in. different adults treat
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the kids differently depending on who it is,
00:23:06.660 --> 00:23:08.900
who's working with who. There'll be some people
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that will back talk to the kids. There'll be
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some people that treat them like really, really
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well. There'll be some people that just don't
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want to pay attention. They're just there for
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a paycheck. Like you see everything. You see
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it all throughout the whole education system.
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It's no different than in a normal classroom
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setting. You still have teachers that really,
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really, really care. You have teachers that don't
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care at all. You have teachers that are just
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in the middle. I see that same thing throughout
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the education system, no matter where you go.
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Did you find it hard having different teachers
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every year and it was a different learning style
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for you? There was different expectations put
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on to you. I find that every time you get a different
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teacher, Like in our department, luckily, it's
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the same three teachers that are there. The classrooms
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usually stay the same year after year student
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-wise because there's different levels of the
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spectrum for each classroom. But do you find
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it hard if you have to go from teacher to teacher
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in what their expectations are for you personally?
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Uh, yes and no. Um, there was times where some
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of the people I talked, uh, that I went to, uh,
00:24:29.059 --> 00:24:31.880
some of my teachers, uh, like one of the teachers
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I had to go to, uh, she told me I needed to do
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A, B, C, and D, and I did A, B, C, and D. And
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then other teachers told me, it's like, forget
00:24:42.460 --> 00:24:45.779
what A, B, C, and D is in this room, and you
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have to follow my rules on this way. I'm really
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really confused and like I don't know like how
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your school district does it but every semester
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I got a different case manager and there's some
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IEP case managers that were really really great
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on top of the ball and there was other ones that
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just kind of did like the least work as possible
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and I hated when I was at the age where I was
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able to go to my own IEP meetings, as I had to
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sit there and listen to everyone say, you know,
00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:25.150
I think this will benefit Jimmy. And then it's
00:25:25.150 --> 00:25:27.150
like, and the other side argues like, no, no,
00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:30.480
this is not going to be well for Jimmy. I'm at
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the other end of the table. I mean, like at the
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very end of the table, like the head of the table.
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And I was like, well, Jimmy is sitting right
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here. And I think you're all a bunch of morons.
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:40.980
I mean, I did not say any of that, but. Yeah,
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see, see, it's different because you you understood
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and could communicate with with the people that
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were in on the IEPs. And, you know, we have students
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that don't understand and people talk in front
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:54.359
of them like they don't understand. But, you
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.859
know, in my head, I still feel like they understand
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they just can't communicate back. you know, what
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they want to say, whereas you understood and
00:26:01.819 --> 00:26:03.500
they were still saying these things in front
00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:05.799
of you saying that, you know, this is what's
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.039
going to benefit Jimmy. Only Jimmy knows what's
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:09.980
going to benefit Jimmy. Jimmy knows how to work
00:26:09.980 --> 00:26:12.799
at his own pace and you know how you're going
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.539
to be able to do things at a certain tempo, pace,
00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:17.779
whatever it is, you know how that's going to
00:26:17.779 --> 00:26:21.039
get completed. They're just putting expectations
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.599
on you because they want it done the way that
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:28.930
they want it done. Exactly. And during those
00:26:28.930 --> 00:26:31.069
meetings, I was not allowed to say anything.
00:26:31.470 --> 00:26:34.049
I was just sitting there minding my own business.
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And I was like, can I go back to class and be
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bored there? classes that that meeting interrupted.
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Some of them I liked and then there's some of
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them I absolutely hated. But one of the times
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when they were having the meetings was right
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in the middle of my art class and it's like you
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.579
pulled me out of my art class. I'd rather be
00:26:57.579 --> 00:26:59.799
getting back in art and I was like it's more
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:02.299
fun. But then there was times where it got me
00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:04.799
out of My English teacher's class and it's like,
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.920
yeah, yeah, she absolutely hated those meetings.
00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:11.880
And I and I loved it when I could see her that
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.900
just look at her face and say. I hate being here.
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.619
I could be anywhere here. And I was like, well,
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.180
if I'm stuck here, you're stuck with me. Yeah.
00:27:20.299 --> 00:27:23.660
Well, I see. I understand they book IEP meetings.
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:25.980
They have so many of them to do throughout the
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day or throughout the week or whatever time frame
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.279
that they have it set up for. I understand that
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.259
they have a lot of them to do and they have to
00:27:32.259 --> 00:27:35.119
pull you out at certain times. But you generally
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.819
want to keep the students in the classes that
00:27:37.819 --> 00:27:39.960
they enjoy more because it stimulates their brain
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:43.759
activity. It stimulates, you know, their enjoyment
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:47.240
in the program that you're in, whereas the ones
00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.059
that they're not totally engaged in, yes, they're
00:27:51.059 --> 00:27:53.700
going to have a little bit of trouble maybe if
00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:56.180
they miss a class, but they can always get help
00:27:56.180 --> 00:27:59.019
after any class just like any student in the
00:27:59.019 --> 00:28:01.960
school can. But if they're not engaged in that
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:03.599
class, they're still not retaining any of the
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.400
information and it's no good for them anyway,
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:10.599
right? And I also have to bring up, it's like,
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:13.960
you know, Like what can make those IEP meetings
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:19.000
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in the show notes. Now let's get back to the
00:33:54.660 --> 00:34:07.579
show. uh she has contacts that she passed along
00:34:07.579 --> 00:34:12.980
to me and whatnot and uh her point like uh one
00:34:12.980 --> 00:34:16.239
of the school districts that she uh worked with
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.280
made their uh kids go to their own IEP meetings
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:24.480
and actually talk in their own IEP meetings and
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.719
what and was asking and like telling them telling
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.219
the grown -ups what they need and uh and I thought
00:34:32.219 --> 00:34:36.269
that was kind of cool way it's like Now, if only
00:34:36.269 --> 00:34:39.590
colleges and school districts get their heads
00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:42.650
out of the clouds, they could start seeing. Because
00:34:42.650 --> 00:34:47.989
for instance, accommodations for college, and
00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:50.690
I don't know if it's everywhere in every college,
00:34:52.110 --> 00:34:55.610
but the colleges, OK, one accommodation I could
00:34:55.610 --> 00:34:59.289
get is a note taking. However, that's only. benefits
00:34:59.289 --> 00:35:02.449
me if someone wants to be willing to be a note
00:35:02.449 --> 00:35:05.409
taker. If no one wants to be a note taker technically
00:35:05.409 --> 00:35:07.730
I don't get accommodation that accommodation
00:35:07.730 --> 00:35:10.670
so I was like this is an accommodation and I
00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:14.070
was like you guys don't even like try it. The
00:35:14.070 --> 00:35:17.809
teacher has to do is like, and I'm not like blaming
00:35:17.809 --> 00:35:20.550
teachers or anything in college, but it's like,
00:35:20.550 --> 00:35:23.650
well, we have someone in this class that has
00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:26.690
an accommodation for note taking, would anybody
00:35:26.690 --> 00:35:31.170
be interested in it? And no one ever says, I
00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:34.969
never heard one person has said yes yet. And
00:35:34.969 --> 00:35:41.050
I think it's totally dumb, that's a kind of accommodation
00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:44.909
because you're kind of like setting people up
00:35:44.909 --> 00:35:48.150
to fail. Uh, because like, okay, if somebody
00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:50.110
doesn't want to be a note taker, you don't get
00:35:50.110 --> 00:35:52.250
that accommodation. Well, that was your only
00:35:52.250 --> 00:35:55.630
accommodation. And so you don't get it. That
00:35:55.630 --> 00:35:58.809
seems fair. We have technology. How about you
00:35:58.809 --> 00:36:02.989
let me have a, um, use a zoom and record the
00:36:02.989 --> 00:36:06.329
whole classroom and I can listen to my notes.
00:36:06.329 --> 00:36:09.829
I was like, well, uh, And of course, there's
00:36:09.829 --> 00:36:14.309
state laws that state, but you have to ask to
00:36:14.309 --> 00:36:16.789
record people and everything. How do you put
00:36:16.789 --> 00:36:19.489
that in the accommodations? Just let me record.
00:36:19.989 --> 00:36:23.530
As I ask anybody that way, there we go. I don't
00:36:23.530 --> 00:36:26.469
know. Again, I'm not a lawyer or anything. Yeah,
00:36:26.630 --> 00:36:28.829
the accommodations are a hard part of it as well.
00:36:29.349 --> 00:36:33.530
They can't accommodate everything that they put
00:36:33.530 --> 00:36:37.679
into the IEPs. any of the like the testing that
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.719
they do they try to do as best they can but there's
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:44.059
been a few things that I've noticed throughout
00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:47.199
the years I mean I don't have any specific examples
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.380
off hand but I mean throughout the years that
00:36:49.380 --> 00:36:51.880
I've been with certain uh grade students like
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.179
I've I've worked right from kindergarten all
00:36:54.179 --> 00:36:56.179
the way up until you know the kids have been
00:36:56.179 --> 00:36:59.539
21 years old uh so I've seen a lot of the different
00:36:59.539 --> 00:37:01.599
accommodations that were set and then you sit
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.679
there and you think about it and say like okay
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.300
you know what like this student might be colorblind
00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:08.519
like this student does not know how to hold a
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.400
pencil and they're not able to write like there's
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.239
got to be something else and and they will say
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.460
that exact thing well that's not in their accommodation
00:37:15.460 --> 00:37:18.940
so we got to get them to do it themselves and
00:37:18.940 --> 00:37:21.320
I'm like I'm fully aware that we need to get
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.519
them to do with themselves but until we can get
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.260
them to that point there's got to be an accommodation
00:37:26.260 --> 00:37:29.550
for them to to make it up until that point. And,
00:37:29.630 --> 00:37:31.349
you know, so I've seen a lot of that throughout
00:37:31.349 --> 00:37:35.150
the years. And I kind of think it's kind of weird
00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:38.070
is that like some of the accommodation, other
00:37:38.070 --> 00:37:42.090
accommodations, like for instance, like if you
00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:46.150
need assisting technology, they have to go through
00:37:46.150 --> 00:37:51.210
hoops and it may or may not happen. And I just
00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:53.949
kind of thinking is like, well, we have, you
00:37:53.949 --> 00:37:56.949
guys have a boat, like a huge tech department
00:37:56.949 --> 00:38:01.570
and the latest. you guys say on the websites
00:38:01.570 --> 00:38:04.050
and everything, we have the latest technology.
00:38:04.570 --> 00:38:07.489
Well, how about you start investing in some technology
00:38:07.489 --> 00:38:10.110
to get assisted technology because you want,
00:38:10.369 --> 00:38:13.250
well, gee, guess what? If you're accommodating
00:38:13.250 --> 00:38:16.730
more people who have extra challenges equals
00:38:16.730 --> 00:38:20.349
more money for you guys. Cha -ching. Yeah. See,
00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:23.949
I noticed like a couple of times that I've worked
00:38:23.949 --> 00:38:26.579
with students that they were They're non -verbal,
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.920
but they were able to do at least like one or
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.280
two word strings together. And, you know, they
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.559
would, we would have teams come in and they would
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.659
tell us, you know, they need to use the iPad
00:38:38.659 --> 00:38:40.980
to ask to go to the washroom. So they would have
00:38:40.980 --> 00:38:43.639
a program set up where they would touch the button
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.599
and it would say washroom. And I refused to use
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.380
it. And they told me, no, no, no, no, you need
00:38:49.380 --> 00:38:51.480
to use it. And I'm like, no, but the student
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.920
can say, I need to use the washroom. Why am I
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.300
letting them use the iPad to do it for them when
00:38:58.300 --> 00:39:00.559
they can say it themselves? And they'll say,
00:39:00.619 --> 00:39:03.619
well, that's because that's what's in their IEP.
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.840
We need them to use it. They're using it at home.
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.820
We want them to transfer and use it at school.
00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:10.199
I'm like, but this kid knows how to communicate
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.519
that they need to use the washroom. Why are we
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.300
using this? So when they left and not to knock
00:39:15.300 --> 00:39:16.679
them or anything, because I know they're doing
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:18.659
their job, but when they left, I wouldn't do
00:39:18.659 --> 00:39:21.199
it because I wanted to encourage the verbal aspect
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.179
of it if they were able to do it. It's no different
00:39:24.179 --> 00:39:26.579
than them saying to me, you know what, I can
00:39:26.579 --> 00:39:29.760
speak in sentences, but you know what, we did
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.719
like some tests on you and we want you to use
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:33.800
the iPad. Like there's no, there's no reason
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.920
for it. If they're able to communicate that verbally.
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.420
That's kind of like, uh, I have, uh, I heard,
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.079
I don't know if the same, uh, if the same, uh,
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.480
if you don't use it, you lose it would apply
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.239
here. But I like the same very much because I
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.579
think it's kind of true. If you don't use your
00:39:52.579 --> 00:39:56.320
voice. Do you lose it? I don't know. I don't
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:58.300
want to find out. Well, not that you're going
00:39:58.300 --> 00:40:02.320
to lose it, but you may lose certain tools that
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.000
you would have in your verbal aspect of it. You
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.440
would lose maybe some of your vocabulary or forget
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:10.920
certain things that you used to be able to see.
00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:13.139
And especially those that were lower on the spectrum,
00:40:13.139 --> 00:40:15.860
right? They may forget what they were trying
00:40:15.860 --> 00:40:17.800
to say and then it doesn't come out the way they
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.719
wanted to come out anymore because they were
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.739
being trained so much on the iPad or technology
00:40:22.739 --> 00:40:26.079
to do it for them. We have a student at our school
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.500
that is verbal but won't talk at school. And,
00:40:29.579 --> 00:40:33.320
you know, there's there's no, I guess, reinforcement
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:35.420
for him to speak verbally. They let him use the
00:40:35.420 --> 00:40:38.420
iPad. And it's it boggles my mind because we
00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:41.820
know at home he speaks, but at school he won't
00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:44.159
do it. So, you know, you got to use different
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:48.460
tactics in terms of getting communication, I
00:40:48.460 --> 00:40:53.059
guess, together with the students and the parents
00:40:53.059 --> 00:40:56.079
and, you know, the school system and everything
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.400
together so that these kids can succeed as best
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.519
as possible and be able to get out into the world
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.679
after they turn 21 and they're done school. um
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:09.360
that they're able to succeed out in the the uh
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.340
the world if if they're gonna have a job after
00:41:12.340 --> 00:41:14.940
or if they're gonna go to day camps after or
00:41:14.940 --> 00:41:17.400
if they're gonna just you know stay at home uh
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.280
you still want what's best for them at the end
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:25.119
of the day exactly and uh i just think that sometimes
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.840
the sometimes i feel like the iop's work not
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.869
always in your best interest yeah and like it
00:41:31.869 --> 00:41:35.449
can work against you like uh like I said like
00:41:35.449 --> 00:41:39.429
then note taking or uh like now I can actually
00:41:39.429 --> 00:41:43.070
like when I was going into college in person
00:41:43.070 --> 00:41:48.550
uh I'm able to use my computers to uh take notes
00:41:48.550 --> 00:41:52.030
on and sometimes I just press record on my computer
00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:56.489
just to and like I don't, I'm not a person to
00:41:56.489 --> 00:42:03.090
sell notes or anything. I'm not that kind of
00:42:03.090 --> 00:42:07.289
person and so I just save my notes so I can go
00:42:07.289 --> 00:42:10.690
back to listen because Sometimes, even though
00:42:10.690 --> 00:42:13.210
I'm paying attention, there's just a lot of information
00:42:13.210 --> 00:42:17.210
for me to retain. And then if I don't retain
00:42:17.210 --> 00:42:19.409
it, I'm like, okay, crap, what did the teacher
00:42:19.409 --> 00:42:21.969
say? What did the teacher say? Nope, I have no
00:42:21.969 --> 00:42:26.530
idea what the teacher said. I think a lot of,
00:42:26.530 --> 00:42:29.610
I guess, special needs departments are also hampered
00:42:29.610 --> 00:42:33.690
by curriculum so like a lot of the times you
00:42:33.690 --> 00:42:37.010
don't want to stray away from the everyday routine
00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:40.309
uh like you're you're still doing your math you're
00:42:40.309 --> 00:42:42.050
still doing your english you're still doing your
00:42:42.050 --> 00:42:44.250
writing you're still doing whatever whatever
00:42:44.250 --> 00:42:46.809
courses it is depending on the level that the
00:42:46.809 --> 00:42:49.389
students are at and and i like to have fun with
00:42:49.389 --> 00:42:51.949
the students and you know i used to sing and
00:42:51.949 --> 00:42:54.369
dance before covid with some of the students
00:42:54.369 --> 00:42:57.340
and this year because things are opening back
00:42:57.340 --> 00:42:59.699
up and we may be allowed to like congregate with
00:42:59.699 --> 00:43:04.320
classes again. I want to start a podcast with
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.840
some of the students in the special needs department
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.599
and get them to tell stories of their everyday
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.639
lives or maybe be able to interview and try and
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.420
build some of those communication skills with
00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:19.769
them that way. and then just put it out there
00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:21.909
and you know and and that's something for them
00:43:21.909 --> 00:43:24.429
to look forward to so you know there's there's
00:43:24.429 --> 00:43:27.070
other things that you can do in departments that
00:43:27.070 --> 00:43:29.989
aren't necessarily school curriculum that will
00:43:29.989 --> 00:43:33.090
actually help benefit the students outside of
00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:36.210
school when they're done because you know in
00:43:36.210 --> 00:43:38.610
in the department that I'm in um there aren't
00:43:38.610 --> 00:43:41.070
a lot of high functioning kids so at the end
00:43:41.070 --> 00:43:43.650
of their school tenure I don't think that they're
00:43:43.650 --> 00:43:46.329
going to go out and get like an office job or
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:50.260
um like you know some like high executive job
00:43:50.260 --> 00:43:52.340
or anything like that not to say that they can't
00:43:52.340 --> 00:43:54.039
because you know they're they're they can do
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.360
anything that they want but at the end of the
00:43:56.360 --> 00:44:00.579
day um they uh hold on one sec sorry but there's
00:44:00.579 --> 00:44:03.400
further ones in there yeah for just me yeah whatever
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:08.119
yeah yeah yeah um sorry um i i lost where i was
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.519
there yeah no uh i think um like doing things
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:17.929
differently with with the kids um it just it
00:44:17.929 --> 00:44:21.550
allows them to actually look forward to something
00:44:21.550 --> 00:44:24.590
and then they may choose this type of communication
00:44:24.590 --> 00:44:26.750
inside of the school like like i was saying our
00:44:26.750 --> 00:44:29.710
our kids um some of them are low functioning
00:44:29.710 --> 00:44:31.630
kids and they and they won't be having like you
00:44:31.630 --> 00:44:34.329
know regular jobs when they finish school so
00:44:34.329 --> 00:44:36.090
you know if this gives them something to look
00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:38.610
forward to or they get to interview you know
00:44:38.610 --> 00:44:41.110
maybe a celebrity that they they really really
00:44:41.110 --> 00:44:45.130
want to talk to or um being able to just improve
00:44:45.130 --> 00:44:48.070
on their communication skills um and then you
00:44:48.070 --> 00:44:50.590
kind of say you know what do you want to do video
00:44:50.590 --> 00:44:54.329
where you know you can uh learn the eye contact
00:44:54.329 --> 00:44:56.969
portion of it and you know they're just just
00:44:56.969 --> 00:44:59.250
different verbal communications or verbal cues
00:44:59.250 --> 00:45:02.449
and and stuff like that so i mean i think it
00:45:02.449 --> 00:45:04.929
would be really really interesting um if they
00:45:04.929 --> 00:45:07.389
let me go ahead and do uh what i have planned
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to do That would be awesome because I know like
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some of the electives I got to do in high school,
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one of them was this TV slash movie class and
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there was actually like a kind of a TV set in
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the classroom and so people got to actually work,
00:45:28.869 --> 00:45:31.309
the students got to work the lights, cameras,
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and actually we got to be behind the desk. And
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that's how they did the, uh, uh, I guess you'd
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call it like, um, morning, uh, introductions
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and that pledge of allegiance and whatnot. And
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so, and they actually did the weather and even
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though that they got it like wrong, like a hundred
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percent of the time, but I mean, that's science
00:45:53.449 --> 00:45:56.969
for you, but, uh, but you know what, and, and,
00:45:57.170 --> 00:45:59.210
you know, I can also teach them, you know, how
00:45:59.210 --> 00:46:01.659
to edit. And, you know, there's different things
00:46:01.659 --> 00:46:04.079
that they can do on the computer behind the scenes
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if they don't really want to be a voice on the
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microphone or a face on the camera. There's different
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things that they can do behind the scenes that
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.739
they may be able to do when they leave high school,
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because, you know what, we didn't know that they
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.699
had those skills on the computer because we don't
00:46:18.699 --> 00:46:21.000
give them that opportunity because we want them
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to be, you know, at their desk and writing and
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doing this and doing that. And, you know, if
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we give them that opportunity, maybe they excel
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at that. and they just can't communicate with
00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:35.880
us to say, hey, this is something I want to do,
00:46:36.139 --> 00:46:37.960
but we have no idea that that's what they want
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to do. So I'm going to try and bring that forward
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and see if that's something that we can work
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on and see if that's something the kids would
00:46:45.019 --> 00:46:46.840
enjoy. I know there's a few kids that would love
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:49.460
to do it because they aren't shy on a microphone
00:46:49.460 --> 00:46:51.059
at all because they would get on a microphone
00:46:51.059 --> 00:46:54.039
and sing in the classroom. So I don't think they
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:56.099
would be shy at all to do it. And especially
00:46:56.099 --> 00:47:00.000
if they're with me, they trust me. So I would
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actually be on with them and help them and guide
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them along the way and let them run the show.
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But I mean, I'd be there just in case that they
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had any issues or any like, you know, dead space
00:47:10.539 --> 00:47:12.579
that they they didn't feel comfortable talking.
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That would be awesome. Like, I remember like
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:20.260
in the class, we got to learn like. uh we were
00:47:20.260 --> 00:47:23.619
watching the movie Twilight uh obviously it was
00:47:23.619 --> 00:47:25.739
not my most favorite movie that we watched but
00:47:25.739 --> 00:47:29.159
my teacher actually pointed out scenes that no
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.420
one else would have like picked up on but she
00:47:32.420 --> 00:47:35.139
was like uh see how this person was running and
00:47:35.139 --> 00:47:37.780
she like played it in slo -mo and I was like
00:47:37.780 --> 00:47:40.940
I was like that's fake it's all edited to make
00:47:40.940 --> 00:47:44.639
it look so real and I was like that's cool and
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:46.639
like she had this like special kind of program
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.000
on the computer I was like stop And she's like,
00:47:50.019 --> 00:47:52.519
you should be tried it along. It's like, see,
00:47:52.619 --> 00:47:55.639
it's like not even touching the ground. And it's
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.500
like, I want this program. Yeah. She won't even
00:47:59.500 --> 00:48:02.599
tell me what it was. Yeah, it's going to be interesting.
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.019
I'm hoping that we can do something like that
00:48:06.019 --> 00:48:08.400
this year. I think it'll make it fun for the
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:10.659
students. I think it'll give them a different
00:48:10.659 --> 00:48:15.300
outlook on certain things. The teachers might
00:48:15.300 --> 00:48:17.139
enjoy it because it might give them a little
00:48:17.139 --> 00:48:19.610
bit of a break. um from working with the students
00:48:19.610 --> 00:48:21.690
and we can do different programming with them
00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:24.030
um so we'll see where it goes hopefully uh the
00:48:24.030 --> 00:48:26.909
kids all you know take to it and enjoy doing
00:48:26.909 --> 00:48:30.989
it yeah hopefully well like my mom always says
00:48:30.989 --> 00:48:34.449
nothing venture nothing gain absolutely that's
00:48:34.449 --> 00:48:36.150
right yeah you don't give it a try you never
00:48:36.150 --> 00:48:40.269
know right yeah that's that's been going on over
00:48:40.269 --> 00:48:42.530
my head for the last four years of running crazy
00:48:42.530 --> 00:48:46.730
fitness guy yeah yeah absolutely yeah all right
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:48.659
Well, I think you got a lot there. Like, I mean,
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:50.460
you can turn this into a blog. If you want to
00:48:50.460 --> 00:48:53.739
send me the recording, just email it to me. And
00:48:53.739 --> 00:48:55.780
I'll I'll edit it up. Nice. I don't know how
00:48:55.780 --> 00:48:57.300
long it's going to take me. Hopefully I can get
00:48:57.300 --> 00:49:01.400
it done this week. And then I'm just going to
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.300
use it for nets on my end for the blog post.
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.280
Yeah. Yeah. And I'll turn it into an episode.
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