Oct. 14, 2021

Shockingly, Public Schools Are Still Struggling With Special Education With Tom

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There are a number of problems with special education in public schools. First, the funding is not always adequate, which means that many schools do not have the resources they need to provide a quality education for students with extra challenges. Second, the way special education is implemented in public schools often relies on a one-size-fits-all approach, which can be ineffective and/or harmful to individual students. 

Key Take-Aways From The Episode

  1. The issues of special education
  2. The problems faced by special needs students in the classroom
  3. How to change special education for the better?



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Tom is a special education teacher assistant and he is also the host of Podjerky.


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Tom, who's a special education teacher assistant,

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who talks about what's like for the schools.

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but Most like with people who have autism to

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go to school. I Hope you enjoyed this episode.

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I sure did talking to my friend Tom and If you

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have time check out his website called pod jerky

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this episode There we go. Yeah. So what is it

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that you exactly want to do? Like what challenges

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are you looking at? Like from whose perspective?

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Probably just in general. Like when I was in

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special education, I remember there was some

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questionable classroom. where the classrooms

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or space is available. Like I remember one of

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the classrooms I was in it was in it was the

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only classroom down there's one hallway that

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it was next to the bathrooms but the whole but

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the whole hallway smells like let's just say

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like I know exactly what you're talking about

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yeah it sounds like a bathroom but it smells

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all like sewage and everything it's like and

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this is sanitary Well, that's usually where the

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special education rooms are, is in like the basement.

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And they're usually by a washroom. I don't know

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if that's for emergencies, so that if they do

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have to use the washroom and they're not fully

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capable, like I've worked with students that

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can't use the washroom on their own. So you have

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to like run them to the washroom. So maybe that's

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a reason why they're closer to the washroom.

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or it's because they want them out of the way

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of everybody else's classroom. I can't tell what

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what the reasoning is because I don't set that

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up. I don't set up where the classrooms are.

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I definitely understand that like uh but that

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was like one of the ideas I came up with like,

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well, the location always seems to be like an

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afterthought. And it wasn't just that scenario

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where, like we used to have when I was in middle

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school, we upgraded from like a smallish kind

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of room, I'd say like medium size to like a very

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large size where we can actually move around

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in. And we got like, we got like prime time location

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it was like it had like nice glass see -through

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windows and everything and it was like really

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cool i got right next to the front door the main

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office and everything so you get to see everyone

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who's coming and going and and like but then

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what's funny years later when I came back to

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visit, just out of curiosity, I was visiting

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one of my teachers that made a big impact on

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my life. She showed me her new room and it was

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the old janitor's closet and it had no window,

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no view, and I was like, well gee, you know,

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imagine if I was a parent bringing my life for

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parent -teacher conference and say well this

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seems like a broom closet and the teacher like

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how do they react and say well that's the funny

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thing it was. Yeah see I can tell you that it's

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hard because I've worked in multiple schools

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so it's been different at every school that I've

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worked at. The school that I'm currently at we

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basically have our own section on a floor so

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there are four classrooms. But one is kind of

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like just a closed -in room. There's no windows.

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It's just a double door, like one door in and

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then one door to the next classroom over. But

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it's different because that student had to be

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separated from the rest of the students because

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he was very physical. He was very violent. He

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wouldn't be able to be in a general classroom.

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So I was with him with another adult in a classroom

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by ourselves just for that reason, because the

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student was too physical for the rest of the

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class and he would hurt other students. So he

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had to be pulled into another classroom on his

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own. And then there's classrooms that are full

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of students with special needs in this department.

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So, I mean, it's... It's totally different and

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other schools, we would all be in one classroom

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and the classroom was OK. I mean, it wasn't the

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greatest classroom, but it suited the needs for

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the kids. OK, so in your opinion, what do you

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think? What do you think the challenges of special

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occasion are for workers? Yeah, so for for myself,

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a lot of the challenges for us would be. handling

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the violence, like the physical violence. Like

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I work in high school right now, so I get the

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bigger kids than elementary school kids. When

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I'm with the high school kids, it's a little

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tougher because I'm a male. There aren't a lot

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of male education assistants and what happens

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with the males is that they give us the bigger

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students because we're physically bigger and

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we can handle the physical students a lot. better,

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I guess, than the women do. Not to say that the

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women can't handle them, but at the same time,

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it's just, you know, the student I was working

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with for the past four years was bigger than

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I am. And I'm bigger than most of the females

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at my school. So I mean, it just makes sense

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to put me with that student. So that's a big

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challenge. And challenge also is depending on

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Do you think there's any challenging parts for

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these students in special education today? Oh,

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yeah, absolutely. They have the issue I see in

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schools is that their workers get switched too

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much. So there's no consistency with their workers.

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You will have one worker one day, another worker

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another day. There's not enough staff to cover

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the amount of students there are in the departments.

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So I think that consistency isn't there for kids

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that are on the spectrum, and they need that

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repetitiveness, right? I don't know how you are

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with that, but the repetitiveness for a lot of

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kids on the spectrum, they require that. So every

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day would be the same schedule. Come in, go to

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your locker, come sit down at your desk and do

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some work, then go for a walk. And they know

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that routine every day. and if somebody different

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is working with them they may not know that route

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and then it gets pulled away from them and then

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they you know they start to get frustrated because

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they can't communicate that you know this is

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not what we do. Yeah I definitely can relate

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to that 100 percent because back in high school

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we like back in high school and middle school,

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whenever time I had a one -on -one helper and

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when my helper was out because they were sick

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or she was sick or whoever was sick, I always

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got a substitute and it was like the worst possible

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thing I've had to deal with because just some

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of them were like, I mean, not trying to like

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be rude or anything but they were kind of like

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they were definitely clueless at times and when

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I tried to fill them in like some of them listened

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and some of them did not want to listen and I

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was like are you making this up and I was like

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uh I don't think I can make this whole scenario

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up yeah it's it's difficult because um like I

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said like the the consistency isn't there right

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it's it's tough especially with non -verbal kids

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um it's uh like they're so used to that routine

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every day and and it gets out of uh control sometimes

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and then you know one of the other challenges

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that you face is you don't know you know some

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of the parents don't want to communicate with

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um the workers so if i have a student and the

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parents don't communicate with you you don't

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know how the morning went or how the night went

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like did they sleep well and so we find that

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a lot like that happens a lot with some of the

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students that we work with that the parents don't

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communicate that they had an off night or an

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off morning and then they come into school and

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they're very very amped up and you know all over

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the place and we're trying to calm down the situation.

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before it gets out of hand and then, you know,

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there's physical violence that happens just because

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they're frustrated. And I understand, but at

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some points they have to go home because they're

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a danger or they may injure another student.

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So, you know, that's another challenge that we

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face with some of the students that we work with.

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Do you think it also is a challenge to the students

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that they can't that some of them are not able

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to like sit still and they're kind of like oh

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I need to get up and get the hell out of this

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place and because I know very big challenge yes

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yeah very big challenge there's a lot of students

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that they just want to get up and be you know,

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walking around or doing something physical. And,

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you know, I've worked with students that will

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sit at their desk and do their work and just,

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you know, it just takes a little bit of extra

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time. But I've also worked with students that,

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you know, you just say, OK, let's just get this

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one this one task done and then we'll do, you

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know, a walk or we'll go to the gym or we'll

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go, you know, wherever it is around the school

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to do something in terms of physical activity.

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But, you know, that is a challenge. Yes, absolutely.

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and uh do you think that some of the uh do you

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think people on uh do you think the schools need

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to like rethink the locations of the special

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education classes and so i just like giving like

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a second thought like with that like maybe like

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okay you know we're just gonna put these people

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down all the way in the very very bottom of the

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school with the rats or I somewhat I somewhat

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agree and disagree with that because agree yes

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because they're always put in in the basements

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like from my personal experience um but I also

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agree because there are a lot of disruptions

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that happen Especially if you're working with

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high, high needs, like lower on the spectrum

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students, we have a lot of those in our school

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that make a lot of noise, that scream, that are

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violent, that throw like chairs or tables or

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whatever it is. And I think they try to keep

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that away from the general population as to not

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distract the classes that are going on and the

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learning that's going on. So they figure. If

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we put them in the basement, there's still other

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classrooms in the basement. We're just in our

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own section. So we have four classrooms in part

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of the hallway. And then at the other end of

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the hallway, there's another four classrooms.

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But it's separated by a stairwell that goes up

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to the next floor. So we're still in the same

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floor as other classrooms. It's just that we're

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separated in our own little section. just I guess

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so that the noise level doesn't happen like we

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had a lot of noise coming out of our classrooms.

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One of the other challenges I think is that some

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of the workers that that work with special needs

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kids and I say this very often is that there's

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a lot of older people that are working in special

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needs right now and when they were starting off

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in the job it wasn't the same as it is today.

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And there weren't as many tasks as there is today.

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And I guess the younger generation that's coming

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up and starting the jobs for special education

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have gotten a little bit more training in certain

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situations and know how to deal with certain

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situations a little more than the older generation.

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And that's not a knock on the older generation

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at all, because they're still doing a fantastic

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job keeping up with. um all the current situations

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that are going on it's just that they were so

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used to a certain way of doing things and then

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things progressively changed during the course

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of you know the past 20 years that they're still

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you know try their old ways which may not work

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anymore and uh we find that to be a challenge

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sometimes too because not everybody knows what

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to do and I think generally as a school board

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I think there should be more training for everybody.

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and how to deal with certain situations. Makes

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sense. Just trying to think if I have a... Ask

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away because you know what we're going to do?

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We're going to use this recording both you and

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I and we're going to put this into an episode.

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I'll edit it. I'll even edit it for you. Sure.

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Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. No, this will be good

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because this is a good, good chat because you're

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going to get it into a blog and then I'll get

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you to record maybe like a little intro part

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to it and I'll record an intro part to it and

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I'll put one up for me and one up for you. Like

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we'll do one for you as well. Awesome. Like what

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are the challenges that you face that you see

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as a student with the teacher like as a with

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an assistant or a teacher being in a classroom

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in a special education classroom? What are some

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of the challenges that you see? When I was in

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special education back in I wouldn't say from

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a high school point of view because when I was

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in high school because middle school I really

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liked I was in like one special education class

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for all my major subjects and everything so I

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didn't have to go from one class to another class

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only for my electives but in high school I had

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to jump from every single class and I don't I

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think it was totally bogus I had to do that and

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of that because there was this hallway that they

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was no if you got stuck in them in the knuckle

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you're late to the next class automatically and

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the teacher and some teachers hated people being

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late and it's like it's not my fault and some

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teachers like tell me like well get here in time

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early well how do i do that and then i started

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working with some of my let's say more laid -back

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kind of teachers but I mean they still like were

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hard but they weren't like okay well I'm just

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gonna I'm gonna stop being ball -busted to you.

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What these people, what the laid -back teachers

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did like they started to let me go out of class

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like the last five minutes of class because obviously

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they're just going over what's due for homework

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and I have my teacher for a homeroom, my history

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teacher for a homeroom and so if I missed the

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last five minutes and like I had to stay home

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the next, like the next period so I could come

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right back to his classroom and say, hey, I need

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clarification and whatnot. And so they saw, let

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me, some of my teachers let me leave class early.

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But what I saw was my English teacher, she was

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in 12th grade. I think she kind of taught, I

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think she was like, there one too many years

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and uh I think she just I think what worked for

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her years ago did not necessarily work for me

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and she she thought I feel like she thought she

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could teach it she could have people learn at

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every single um at one level like one size fits

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all and it was totally annoying because like

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we were reading all these absurd books. Like

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one of them was The Great Gatsby. And I've heard

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of it. I never read it. I mean, I read it for

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a class, but I didn't even count it as a reading

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list on my personal library on Goodreads because

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I didn't even like, I'm really good at memorizing

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like what I read in books and whatnot. I don't

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remember what the hell I read. It was all a blur.

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And I was just trying to think. And there was

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times where she came in my study hall class.

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I was done with all my homework assignments.

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And she walks by and she says to me, you're supposed

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to be working at study hall. I'm already finished.

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And I go, yeah, well, let me see. She sits down.

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She makes me watch her. And there's one time.

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It was most annoying. I can answer this one question

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on this study guide that she was having a stint

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fill out and everything. She's like, oh, that's

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in the book. It's in the book, really. That's

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why I can't find it. And so she made me watch

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her flip through every single page in the book,

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scanning each page. I think it was like a 100

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-plus page book or something. And at the end

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of the study hall, she admits, you're right.

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The question wasn't in the book. I was like,

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gee, I'm right. Thank you. Thanks, Captain Obvious.

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And I probably shouldn't have been a smart ass

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to her, but she just kept on calling me lazy

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after lazy after lazy. And I was getting straight

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A's. If that makes me lazy, then let me try to

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get straight F's then. You know, I kind of see

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that every day as well throughout the different

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schools that I've been in. different adults treat

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the kids differently depending on who it is,

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who's working with who. There'll be some people

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that will back talk to the kids. There'll be

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some people that treat them like really, really

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well. There'll be some people that just don't

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want to pay attention. They're just there for

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a paycheck. Like you see everything. You see

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it all throughout the whole education system.

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It's no different than in a normal classroom

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setting. You still have teachers that really,

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really, really care. You have teachers that don't

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care at all. You have teachers that are just

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in the middle. I see that same thing throughout

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the education system, no matter where you go.

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Did you find it hard having different teachers

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every year and it was a different learning style

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for you? There was different expectations put

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on to you. I find that every time you get a different

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teacher, Like in our department, luckily, it's

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the same three teachers that are there. The classrooms

00:24:03.009 --> 00:24:06.029
usually stay the same year after year student

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-wise because there's different levels of the

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spectrum for each classroom. But do you find

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it hard if you have to go from teacher to teacher

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in what their expectations are for you personally?

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Uh, yes and no. Um, there was times where some

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of the people I talked, uh, that I went to, uh,

00:24:29.059 --> 00:24:31.880
some of my teachers, uh, like one of the teachers

00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:36.680
I had to go to, uh, she told me I needed to do

00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.599
A, B, C, and D, and I did A, B, C, and D. And

00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:42.460
then other teachers told me, it's like, forget

00:24:42.460 --> 00:24:45.779
what A, B, C, and D is in this room, and you

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have to follow my rules on this way. I'm really

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really confused and like I don't know like how

00:24:53.299 --> 00:24:56.779
your school district does it but every semester

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I got a different case manager and there's some

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IEP case managers that were really really great

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on top of the ball and there was other ones that

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just kind of did like the least work as possible

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and I hated when I was at the age where I was

00:25:15.450 --> 00:25:19.769
able to go to my own IEP meetings, as I had to

00:25:19.769 --> 00:25:22.650
sit there and listen to everyone say, you know,

00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:25.150
I think this will benefit Jimmy. And then it's

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like, and the other side argues like, no, no,

00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:30.480
this is not going to be well for Jimmy. I'm at

00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.539
the other end of the table. I mean, like at the

00:25:32.539 --> 00:25:35.019
very end of the table, like the head of the table.

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And I was like, well, Jimmy is sitting right

00:25:36.819 --> 00:25:38.940
here. And I think you're all a bunch of morons.

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I mean, I did not say any of that, but. Yeah,

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see, see, it's different because you you understood

00:25:44.299 --> 00:25:48.099
and could communicate with with the people that

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were in on the IEPs. And, you know, we have students

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that don't understand and people talk in front

00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:54.359
of them like they don't understand. But, you

00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.859
know, in my head, I still feel like they understand

00:25:56.859 --> 00:25:59.259
they just can't communicate back. you know, what

00:25:59.259 --> 00:26:01.819
they want to say, whereas you understood and

00:26:01.819 --> 00:26:03.500
they were still saying these things in front

00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:05.799
of you saying that, you know, this is what's

00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.039
going to benefit Jimmy. Only Jimmy knows what's

00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:09.980
going to benefit Jimmy. Jimmy knows how to work

00:26:09.980 --> 00:26:12.799
at his own pace and you know how you're going

00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.539
to be able to do things at a certain tempo, pace,

00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:17.779
whatever it is, you know how that's going to

00:26:17.779 --> 00:26:21.039
get completed. They're just putting expectations

00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.599
on you because they want it done the way that

00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:28.930
they want it done. Exactly. And during those

00:26:28.930 --> 00:26:31.069
meetings, I was not allowed to say anything.

00:26:31.470 --> 00:26:34.049
I was just sitting there minding my own business.

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And I was like, can I go back to class and be

00:26:36.190 --> 00:26:43.740
bored there? classes that that meeting interrupted.

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Some of them I liked and then there's some of

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them I absolutely hated. But one of the times

00:26:51.259 --> 00:26:52.940
when they were having the meetings was right

00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:55.079
in the middle of my art class and it's like you

00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.579
pulled me out of my art class. I'd rather be

00:26:57.579 --> 00:26:59.799
getting back in art and I was like it's more

00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:02.299
fun. But then there was times where it got me

00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:04.799
out of My English teacher's class and it's like,

00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.920
yeah, yeah, she absolutely hated those meetings.

00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:11.880
And I and I loved it when I could see her that

00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.900
just look at her face and say. I hate being here.

00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.619
I could be anywhere here. And I was like, well,

00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.180
if I'm stuck here, you're stuck with me. Yeah.

00:27:20.299 --> 00:27:23.660
Well, I see. I understand they book IEP meetings.

00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:25.980
They have so many of them to do throughout the

00:27:25.980 --> 00:27:28.400
day or throughout the week or whatever time frame

00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.279
that they have it set up for. I understand that

00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.259
they have a lot of them to do and they have to

00:27:32.259 --> 00:27:35.119
pull you out at certain times. But you generally

00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.819
want to keep the students in the classes that

00:27:37.819 --> 00:27:39.960
they enjoy more because it stimulates their brain

00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:43.759
activity. It stimulates, you know, their enjoyment

00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:47.240
in the program that you're in, whereas the ones

00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.059
that they're not totally engaged in, yes, they're

00:27:51.059 --> 00:27:53.700
going to have a little bit of trouble maybe if

00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:56.180
they miss a class, but they can always get help

00:27:56.180 --> 00:27:59.019
after any class just like any student in the

00:27:59.019 --> 00:28:01.960
school can. But if they're not engaged in that

00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:03.599
class, they're still not retaining any of the

00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.400
information and it's no good for them anyway,

00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:10.599
right? And I also have to bring up, it's like,

00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:13.960
you know, Like what can make those IEP meetings

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in the show notes. Now let's get back to the

00:33:54.660 --> 00:34:07.579
show. uh she has contacts that she passed along

00:34:07.579 --> 00:34:12.980
to me and whatnot and uh her point like uh one

00:34:12.980 --> 00:34:16.239
of the school districts that she uh worked with

00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.280
made their uh kids go to their own IEP meetings

00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:24.480
and actually talk in their own IEP meetings and

00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.719
what and was asking and like telling them telling

00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.219
the grown -ups what they need and uh and I thought

00:34:32.219 --> 00:34:36.269
that was kind of cool way it's like Now, if only

00:34:36.269 --> 00:34:39.590
colleges and school districts get their heads

00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:42.650
out of the clouds, they could start seeing. Because

00:34:42.650 --> 00:34:47.989
for instance, accommodations for college, and

00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:50.690
I don't know if it's everywhere in every college,

00:34:52.110 --> 00:34:55.610
but the colleges, OK, one accommodation I could

00:34:55.610 --> 00:34:59.289
get is a note taking. However, that's only. benefits

00:34:59.289 --> 00:35:02.449
me if someone wants to be willing to be a note

00:35:02.449 --> 00:35:05.409
taker. If no one wants to be a note taker technically

00:35:05.409 --> 00:35:07.730
I don't get accommodation that accommodation

00:35:07.730 --> 00:35:10.670
so I was like this is an accommodation and I

00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:14.070
was like you guys don't even like try it. The

00:35:14.070 --> 00:35:17.809
teacher has to do is like, and I'm not like blaming

00:35:17.809 --> 00:35:20.550
teachers or anything in college, but it's like,

00:35:20.550 --> 00:35:23.650
well, we have someone in this class that has

00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:26.690
an accommodation for note taking, would anybody

00:35:26.690 --> 00:35:31.170
be interested in it? And no one ever says, I

00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:34.969
never heard one person has said yes yet. And

00:35:34.969 --> 00:35:41.050
I think it's totally dumb, that's a kind of accommodation

00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:44.909
because you're kind of like setting people up

00:35:44.909 --> 00:35:48.150
to fail. Uh, because like, okay, if somebody

00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:50.110
doesn't want to be a note taker, you don't get

00:35:50.110 --> 00:35:52.250
that accommodation. Well, that was your only

00:35:52.250 --> 00:35:55.630
accommodation. And so you don't get it. That

00:35:55.630 --> 00:35:58.809
seems fair. We have technology. How about you

00:35:58.809 --> 00:36:02.989
let me have a, um, use a zoom and record the

00:36:02.989 --> 00:36:06.329
whole classroom and I can listen to my notes.

00:36:06.329 --> 00:36:09.829
I was like, well, uh, And of course, there's

00:36:09.829 --> 00:36:14.309
state laws that state, but you have to ask to

00:36:14.309 --> 00:36:16.789
record people and everything. How do you put

00:36:16.789 --> 00:36:19.489
that in the accommodations? Just let me record.

00:36:19.989 --> 00:36:23.530
As I ask anybody that way, there we go. I don't

00:36:23.530 --> 00:36:26.469
know. Again, I'm not a lawyer or anything. Yeah,

00:36:26.630 --> 00:36:28.829
the accommodations are a hard part of it as well.

00:36:29.349 --> 00:36:33.530
They can't accommodate everything that they put

00:36:33.530 --> 00:36:37.679
into the IEPs. any of the like the testing that

00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.719
they do they try to do as best they can but there's

00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:44.059
been a few things that I've noticed throughout

00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:47.199
the years I mean I don't have any specific examples

00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.380
off hand but I mean throughout the years that

00:36:49.380 --> 00:36:51.880
I've been with certain uh grade students like

00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.179
I've I've worked right from kindergarten all

00:36:54.179 --> 00:36:56.179
the way up until you know the kids have been

00:36:56.179 --> 00:36:59.539
21 years old uh so I've seen a lot of the different

00:36:59.539 --> 00:37:01.599
accommodations that were set and then you sit

00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.679
there and you think about it and say like okay

00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.300
you know what like this student might be colorblind

00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:08.519
like this student does not know how to hold a

00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.400
pencil and they're not able to write like there's

00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.239
got to be something else and and they will say

00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.460
that exact thing well that's not in their accommodation

00:37:15.460 --> 00:37:18.940
so we got to get them to do it themselves and

00:37:18.940 --> 00:37:21.320
I'm like I'm fully aware that we need to get

00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.519
them to do with themselves but until we can get

00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.260
them to that point there's got to be an accommodation

00:37:26.260 --> 00:37:29.550
for them to to make it up until that point. And,

00:37:29.630 --> 00:37:31.349
you know, so I've seen a lot of that throughout

00:37:31.349 --> 00:37:35.150
the years. And I kind of think it's kind of weird

00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:38.070
is that like some of the accommodation, other

00:37:38.070 --> 00:37:42.090
accommodations, like for instance, like if you

00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:46.150
need assisting technology, they have to go through

00:37:46.150 --> 00:37:51.210
hoops and it may or may not happen. And I just

00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:53.949
kind of thinking is like, well, we have, you

00:37:53.949 --> 00:37:56.949
guys have a boat, like a huge tech department

00:37:56.949 --> 00:38:01.570
and the latest. you guys say on the websites

00:38:01.570 --> 00:38:04.050
and everything, we have the latest technology.

00:38:04.570 --> 00:38:07.489
Well, how about you start investing in some technology

00:38:07.489 --> 00:38:10.110
to get assisted technology because you want,

00:38:10.369 --> 00:38:13.250
well, gee, guess what? If you're accommodating

00:38:13.250 --> 00:38:16.730
more people who have extra challenges equals

00:38:16.730 --> 00:38:20.349
more money for you guys. Cha -ching. Yeah. See,

00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:23.949
I noticed like a couple of times that I've worked

00:38:23.949 --> 00:38:26.579
with students that they were They're non -verbal,

00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.920
but they were able to do at least like one or

00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.280
two word strings together. And, you know, they

00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.559
would, we would have teams come in and they would

00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.659
tell us, you know, they need to use the iPad

00:38:38.659 --> 00:38:40.980
to ask to go to the washroom. So they would have

00:38:40.980 --> 00:38:43.639
a program set up where they would touch the button

00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.599
and it would say washroom. And I refused to use

00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.380
it. And they told me, no, no, no, no, you need

00:38:49.380 --> 00:38:51.480
to use it. And I'm like, no, but the student

00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.920
can say, I need to use the washroom. Why am I

00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.300
letting them use the iPad to do it for them when

00:38:58.300 --> 00:39:00.559
they can say it themselves? And they'll say,

00:39:00.619 --> 00:39:03.619
well, that's because that's what's in their IEP.

00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.840
We need them to use it. They're using it at home.

00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.820
We want them to transfer and use it at school.

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:10.199
I'm like, but this kid knows how to communicate

00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.519
that they need to use the washroom. Why are we

00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.300
using this? So when they left and not to knock

00:39:15.300 --> 00:39:16.679
them or anything, because I know they're doing

00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:18.659
their job, but when they left, I wouldn't do

00:39:18.659 --> 00:39:21.199
it because I wanted to encourage the verbal aspect

00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.179
of it if they were able to do it. It's no different

00:39:24.179 --> 00:39:26.579
than them saying to me, you know what, I can

00:39:26.579 --> 00:39:29.760
speak in sentences, but you know what, we did

00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.719
like some tests on you and we want you to use

00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:33.800
the iPad. Like there's no, there's no reason

00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.920
for it. If they're able to communicate that verbally.

00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.420
That's kind of like, uh, I have, uh, I heard,

00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.079
I don't know if the same, uh, if the same, uh,

00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.480
if you don't use it, you lose it would apply

00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.239
here. But I like the same very much because I

00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.579
think it's kind of true. If you don't use your

00:39:52.579 --> 00:39:56.320
voice. Do you lose it? I don't know. I don't

00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:58.300
want to find out. Well, not that you're going

00:39:58.300 --> 00:40:02.320
to lose it, but you may lose certain tools that

00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.000
you would have in your verbal aspect of it. You

00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.440
would lose maybe some of your vocabulary or forget

00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:10.920
certain things that you used to be able to see.

00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:13.139
And especially those that were lower on the spectrum,

00:40:13.139 --> 00:40:15.860
right? They may forget what they were trying

00:40:15.860 --> 00:40:17.800
to say and then it doesn't come out the way they

00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.719
wanted to come out anymore because they were

00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.739
being trained so much on the iPad or technology

00:40:22.739 --> 00:40:26.079
to do it for them. We have a student at our school

00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.500
that is verbal but won't talk at school. And,

00:40:29.579 --> 00:40:33.320
you know, there's there's no, I guess, reinforcement

00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:35.420
for him to speak verbally. They let him use the

00:40:35.420 --> 00:40:38.420
iPad. And it's it boggles my mind because we

00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:41.820
know at home he speaks, but at school he won't

00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:44.159
do it. So, you know, you got to use different

00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:48.460
tactics in terms of getting communication, I

00:40:48.460 --> 00:40:53.059
guess, together with the students and the parents

00:40:53.059 --> 00:40:56.079
and, you know, the school system and everything

00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.400
together so that these kids can succeed as best

00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.519
as possible and be able to get out into the world

00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.679
after they turn 21 and they're done school. um

00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:09.360
that they're able to succeed out in the the uh

00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.340
the world if if they're gonna have a job after

00:41:12.340 --> 00:41:14.940
or if they're gonna go to day camps after or

00:41:14.940 --> 00:41:17.400
if they're gonna just you know stay at home uh

00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.280
you still want what's best for them at the end

00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:25.119
of the day exactly and uh i just think that sometimes

00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.840
the sometimes i feel like the iop's work not

00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.869
always in your best interest yeah and like it

00:41:31.869 --> 00:41:35.449
can work against you like uh like I said like

00:41:35.449 --> 00:41:39.429
then note taking or uh like now I can actually

00:41:39.429 --> 00:41:43.070
like when I was going into college in person

00:41:43.070 --> 00:41:48.550
uh I'm able to use my computers to uh take notes

00:41:48.550 --> 00:41:52.030
on and sometimes I just press record on my computer

00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:56.489
just to and like I don't, I'm not a person to

00:41:56.489 --> 00:42:03.090
sell notes or anything. I'm not that kind of

00:42:03.090 --> 00:42:07.289
person and so I just save my notes so I can go

00:42:07.289 --> 00:42:10.690
back to listen because Sometimes, even though

00:42:10.690 --> 00:42:13.210
I'm paying attention, there's just a lot of information

00:42:13.210 --> 00:42:17.210
for me to retain. And then if I don't retain

00:42:17.210 --> 00:42:19.409
it, I'm like, okay, crap, what did the teacher

00:42:19.409 --> 00:42:21.969
say? What did the teacher say? Nope, I have no

00:42:21.969 --> 00:42:26.530
idea what the teacher said. I think a lot of,

00:42:26.530 --> 00:42:29.610
I guess, special needs departments are also hampered

00:42:29.610 --> 00:42:33.690
by curriculum so like a lot of the times you

00:42:33.690 --> 00:42:37.010
don't want to stray away from the everyday routine

00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:40.309
uh like you're you're still doing your math you're

00:42:40.309 --> 00:42:42.050
still doing your english you're still doing your

00:42:42.050 --> 00:42:44.250
writing you're still doing whatever whatever

00:42:44.250 --> 00:42:46.809
courses it is depending on the level that the

00:42:46.809 --> 00:42:49.389
students are at and and i like to have fun with

00:42:49.389 --> 00:42:51.949
the students and you know i used to sing and

00:42:51.949 --> 00:42:54.369
dance before covid with some of the students

00:42:54.369 --> 00:42:57.340
and this year because things are opening back

00:42:57.340 --> 00:42:59.699
up and we may be allowed to like congregate with

00:42:59.699 --> 00:43:04.320
classes again. I want to start a podcast with

00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.840
some of the students in the special needs department

00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.599
and get them to tell stories of their everyday

00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.639
lives or maybe be able to interview and try and

00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.420
build some of those communication skills with

00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:19.769
them that way. and then just put it out there

00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:21.909
and you know and and that's something for them

00:43:21.909 --> 00:43:24.429
to look forward to so you know there's there's

00:43:24.429 --> 00:43:27.070
other things that you can do in departments that

00:43:27.070 --> 00:43:29.989
aren't necessarily school curriculum that will

00:43:29.989 --> 00:43:33.090
actually help benefit the students outside of

00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:36.210
school when they're done because you know in

00:43:36.210 --> 00:43:38.610
in the department that I'm in um there aren't

00:43:38.610 --> 00:43:41.070
a lot of high functioning kids so at the end

00:43:41.070 --> 00:43:43.650
of their school tenure I don't think that they're

00:43:43.650 --> 00:43:46.329
going to go out and get like an office job or

00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:50.260
um like you know some like high executive job

00:43:50.260 --> 00:43:52.340
or anything like that not to say that they can't

00:43:52.340 --> 00:43:54.039
because you know they're they're they can do

00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.360
anything that they want but at the end of the

00:43:56.360 --> 00:44:00.579
day um they uh hold on one sec sorry but there's

00:44:00.579 --> 00:44:03.400
further ones in there yeah for just me yeah whatever

00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:08.119
yeah yeah yeah um sorry um i i lost where i was

00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.519
there yeah no uh i think um like doing things

00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:17.929
differently with with the kids um it just it

00:44:17.929 --> 00:44:21.550
allows them to actually look forward to something

00:44:21.550 --> 00:44:24.590
and then they may choose this type of communication

00:44:24.590 --> 00:44:26.750
inside of the school like like i was saying our

00:44:26.750 --> 00:44:29.710
our kids um some of them are low functioning

00:44:29.710 --> 00:44:31.630
kids and they and they won't be having like you

00:44:31.630 --> 00:44:34.329
know regular jobs when they finish school so

00:44:34.329 --> 00:44:36.090
you know if this gives them something to look

00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:38.610
forward to or they get to interview you know

00:44:38.610 --> 00:44:41.110
maybe a celebrity that they they really really

00:44:41.110 --> 00:44:45.130
want to talk to or um being able to just improve

00:44:45.130 --> 00:44:48.070
on their communication skills um and then you

00:44:48.070 --> 00:44:50.590
kind of say you know what do you want to do video

00:44:50.590 --> 00:44:54.329
where you know you can uh learn the eye contact

00:44:54.329 --> 00:44:56.969
portion of it and you know they're just just

00:44:56.969 --> 00:44:59.250
different verbal communications or verbal cues

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and and stuff like that so i mean i think it

00:45:02.449 --> 00:45:04.929
would be really really interesting um if they

00:45:04.929 --> 00:45:07.389
let me go ahead and do uh what i have planned

00:45:07.389 --> 00:45:12.329
to do That would be awesome because I know like

00:45:12.329 --> 00:45:15.909
some of the electives I got to do in high school,

00:45:16.329 --> 00:45:21.309
one of them was this TV slash movie class and

00:45:21.309 --> 00:45:24.849
there was actually like a kind of a TV set in

00:45:24.849 --> 00:45:28.710
the classroom and so people got to actually work,

00:45:28.869 --> 00:45:31.309
the students got to work the lights, cameras,

00:45:31.570 --> 00:45:34.269
and actually we got to be behind the desk. And

00:45:34.269 --> 00:45:37.269
that's how they did the, uh, uh, I guess you'd

00:45:37.269 --> 00:45:41.409
call it like, um, morning, uh, introductions

00:45:41.409 --> 00:45:45.329
and that pledge of allegiance and whatnot. And

00:45:45.329 --> 00:45:48.230
so, and they actually did the weather and even

00:45:48.230 --> 00:45:49.989
though that they got it like wrong, like a hundred

00:45:49.989 --> 00:45:53.449
percent of the time, but I mean, that's science

00:45:53.449 --> 00:45:56.969
for you, but, uh, but you know what, and, and,

00:45:57.170 --> 00:45:59.210
you know, I can also teach them, you know, how

00:45:59.210 --> 00:46:01.659
to edit. And, you know, there's different things

00:46:01.659 --> 00:46:04.079
that they can do on the computer behind the scenes

00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.900
if they don't really want to be a voice on the

00:46:06.900 --> 00:46:09.840
microphone or a face on the camera. There's different

00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:11.440
things that they can do behind the scenes that

00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.739
they may be able to do when they leave high school,

00:46:14.739 --> 00:46:16.440
because, you know what, we didn't know that they

00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.699
had those skills on the computer because we don't

00:46:18.699 --> 00:46:21.000
give them that opportunity because we want them

00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.699
to be, you know, at their desk and writing and

00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:26.300
doing this and doing that. And, you know, if

00:46:26.300 --> 00:46:28.920
we give them that opportunity, maybe they excel

00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.699
at that. and they just can't communicate with

00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:35.880
us to say, hey, this is something I want to do,

00:46:36.139 --> 00:46:37.960
but we have no idea that that's what they want

00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.099
to do. So I'm going to try and bring that forward

00:46:41.099 --> 00:46:43.000
and see if that's something that we can work

00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.019
on and see if that's something the kids would

00:46:45.019 --> 00:46:46.840
enjoy. I know there's a few kids that would love

00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:49.460
to do it because they aren't shy on a microphone

00:46:49.460 --> 00:46:51.059
at all because they would get on a microphone

00:46:51.059 --> 00:46:54.039
and sing in the classroom. So I don't think they

00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:56.099
would be shy at all to do it. And especially

00:46:56.099 --> 00:47:00.000
if they're with me, they trust me. So I would

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.599
actually be on with them and help them and guide

00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:05.179
them along the way and let them run the show.

00:47:05.460 --> 00:47:07.119
But I mean, I'd be there just in case that they

00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.539
had any issues or any like, you know, dead space

00:47:10.539 --> 00:47:12.579
that they they didn't feel comfortable talking.

00:47:13.420 --> 00:47:15.800
That would be awesome. Like, I remember like

00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:20.260
in the class, we got to learn like. uh we were

00:47:20.260 --> 00:47:23.619
watching the movie Twilight uh obviously it was

00:47:23.619 --> 00:47:25.739
not my most favorite movie that we watched but

00:47:25.739 --> 00:47:29.159
my teacher actually pointed out scenes that no

00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.420
one else would have like picked up on but she

00:47:32.420 --> 00:47:35.139
was like uh see how this person was running and

00:47:35.139 --> 00:47:37.780
she like played it in slo -mo and I was like

00:47:37.780 --> 00:47:40.940
I was like that's fake it's all edited to make

00:47:40.940 --> 00:47:44.639
it look so real and I was like that's cool and

00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:46.639
like she had this like special kind of program

00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.000
on the computer I was like stop And she's like,

00:47:50.019 --> 00:47:52.519
you should be tried it along. It's like, see,

00:47:52.619 --> 00:47:55.639
it's like not even touching the ground. And it's

00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.500
like, I want this program. Yeah. She won't even

00:47:59.500 --> 00:48:02.599
tell me what it was. Yeah, it's going to be interesting.

00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.019
I'm hoping that we can do something like that

00:48:06.019 --> 00:48:08.400
this year. I think it'll make it fun for the

00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:10.659
students. I think it'll give them a different

00:48:10.659 --> 00:48:15.300
outlook on certain things. The teachers might

00:48:15.300 --> 00:48:17.139
enjoy it because it might give them a little

00:48:17.139 --> 00:48:19.610
bit of a break. um from working with the students

00:48:19.610 --> 00:48:21.690
and we can do different programming with them

00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:24.030
um so we'll see where it goes hopefully uh the

00:48:24.030 --> 00:48:26.909
kids all you know take to it and enjoy doing

00:48:26.909 --> 00:48:30.989
it yeah hopefully well like my mom always says

00:48:30.989 --> 00:48:34.449
nothing venture nothing gain absolutely that's

00:48:34.449 --> 00:48:36.150
right yeah you don't give it a try you never

00:48:36.150 --> 00:48:40.269
know right yeah that's that's been going on over

00:48:40.269 --> 00:48:42.530
my head for the last four years of running crazy

00:48:42.530 --> 00:48:46.730
fitness guy yeah yeah absolutely yeah all right

00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:48.659
Well, I think you got a lot there. Like, I mean,

00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:50.460
you can turn this into a blog. If you want to

00:48:50.460 --> 00:48:53.739
send me the recording, just email it to me. And

00:48:53.739 --> 00:48:55.780
I'll I'll edit it up. Nice. I don't know how

00:48:55.780 --> 00:48:57.300
long it's going to take me. Hopefully I can get

00:48:57.300 --> 00:49:01.400
it done this week. And then I'm just going to

00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.300
use it for nets on my end for the blog post.

00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.280
Yeah. Yeah. And I'll turn it into an episode.

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