Classroom Challenges & Special Education Reform: Funding Solutions with Tom
Public schools continue to face significant classroom challenges when it comes to special education reform. In this episode, we dive deep into the persistent issues surrounding special education funding and explore how these financial hurdles impact the quality of support for students with unique needs. Special guest Tom, a dedicated special education teacher assistant and host of Podjerky, shares firsthand insights into the daily realities and struggles inside classrooms, highlighting why a one-size-fits-all approach often falls short.
Key Take-Aways From The Episode
- The issues of special education
- The problems faced by special needs students in the classroom
- How to change special education for the better?
About The Guest Tom is a special education teacher assistant and he is also the host of Podjerky. Connect With The Guest https://podjerky.wixsite.com/podjerky Sponsored By This episode was created and edited using Podcastle. www.podcastle.ai
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this episode There we go. Yeah. So what is it
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that you exactly want to do? Like what challenges
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are you looking at? Like from whose perspective?
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Probably just in general. Like when I was in
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special education, I remember there was some
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questionable classroom. where the classrooms
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or space is available. Like I remember one of
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the classrooms I was in it was in it was the
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only classroom down there's one hallway that
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it was next to the bathrooms but the whole but
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the whole hallway smells like let's just say
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like I know exactly what you're talking about
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yeah it sounds like a bathroom but it smells
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all like sewage and everything it's like and
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this is sanitary Well, that's usually where the
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special education rooms are, is in like the basement.
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And they're usually by a washroom. I don't know
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if that's for emergencies, so that if they do
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have to use the washroom and they're not fully
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capable, like I've worked with students that
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can't use the washroom on their own. So you have
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to like run them to the washroom. So maybe that's
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a reason why they're closer to the washroom.
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or it's because they want them out of the way
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of everybody else's classroom. I can't tell what
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what the reasoning is because I don't set that
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up. I don't set up where the classrooms are.
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I definitely understand that like uh but that
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was like one of the ideas I came up with like,
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well, the location always seems to be like an
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afterthought. And it wasn't just that scenario
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where, like we used to have when I was in middle
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school, we upgraded from like a smallish kind
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of room, I'd say like medium size to like a very
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large size where we can actually move around
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in. And we got like, we got like prime time location
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it was like it had like nice glass see -through
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windows and everything and it was like really
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cool i got right next to the front door the main
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office and everything so you get to see everyone
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who's coming and going and and like but then
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what's funny years later when I came back to
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visit, just out of curiosity, I was visiting
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one of my teachers that made a big impact on
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my life. She showed me her new room and it was
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the old janitor's closet and it had no window,
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no view, and I was like, well gee, you know,
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imagine if I was a parent bringing my life for
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parent -teacher conference and say well this
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seems like a broom closet and the teacher like
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how do they react and say well that's the funny
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thing it was. Yeah see I can tell you that it's
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hard because I've worked in multiple schools
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so it's been different at every school that I've
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worked at. The school that I'm currently at we
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basically have our own section on a floor so
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there are four classrooms. But one is kind of
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like just a closed -in room. There's no windows.
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It's just a double door, like one door in and
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then one door to the next classroom over. But
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it's different because that student had to be
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separated from the rest of the students because
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he was very physical. He was very violent. He
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wouldn't be able to be in a general classroom.
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So I was with him with another adult in a classroom
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by ourselves just for that reason, because the
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student was too physical for the rest of the
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class and he would hurt other students. So he
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had to be pulled into another classroom on his
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own. And then there's classrooms that are full
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of students with special needs in this department.
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So, I mean, it's... It's totally different and
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other schools, we would all be in one classroom
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and the classroom was OK. I mean, it wasn't the
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greatest classroom, but it suited the needs for
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the kids. OK, so in your opinion, what do you
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think? What do you think the challenges of special
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occasion are for workers? Yeah, so for for myself,
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a lot of the challenges for us would be. handling
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the violence, like the physical violence. Like
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I work in high school right now, so I get the
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bigger kids than elementary school kids. When
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I'm with the high school kids, it's a little
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tougher because I'm a male. There aren't a lot
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of male education assistants and what happens
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with the males is that they give us the bigger
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students because we're physically bigger and
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we can handle the physical students a lot. better,
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I guess, than the women do. Not to say that the
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women can't handle them, but at the same time,
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it's just, you know, the student I was working
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with for the past four years was bigger than
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I am. And I'm bigger than most of the females
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at my school. So I mean, it just makes sense
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Do you think there's any challenging parts for
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these students in special education today? Oh,
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yeah, absolutely. They have the issue I see in
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schools is that their workers get switched too
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much. So there's no consistency with their workers.
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You will have one worker one day, another worker
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another day. There's not enough staff to cover
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the amount of students there are in the departments.
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So I think that consistency isn't there for kids
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that are on the spectrum, and they need that
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repetitiveness, right? I don't know how you are
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with that, but the repetitiveness for a lot of
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kids on the spectrum, they require that. So every
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day would be the same schedule. Come in, go to
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your locker, come sit down at your desk and do
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some work, then go for a walk. And they know
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that routine every day. and if somebody different
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is working with them they may not know that route
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and then it gets pulled away from them and then
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they you know they start to get frustrated because
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they can't communicate that you know this is
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not what we do. Yeah I definitely can relate
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to that 100 percent because back in high school
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we like back in high school and middle school,
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whenever time I had a one -on -one helper and
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when my helper was out because they were sick
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or she was sick or whoever was sick, I always
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got a substitute and it was like the worst possible
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thing I've had to deal with because just some
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of them were like, I mean, not trying to like
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be rude or anything but they were kind of like
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they were definitely clueless at times and when
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I tried to fill them in like some of them listened
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and some of them did not want to listen and I
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was like are you making this up and I was like
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uh I don't think I can make this whole scenario
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up yeah it's it's difficult because um like I
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said like the the consistency isn't there right
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it's it's tough especially with non -verbal kids
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um it's uh like they're so used to that routine
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every day and and it gets out of uh control sometimes
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and then you know one of the other challenges
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that you face is you don't know you know some
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of the parents don't want to communicate with
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um the workers so if i have a student and the
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parents don't communicate with you you don't
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know how the morning went or how the night went
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like did they sleep well and so we find that
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a lot like that happens a lot with some of the
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students that we work with that the parents don't
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communicate that they had an off night or an
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off morning and then they come into school and
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they're very very amped up and you know all over
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the place and we're trying to calm down the situation.
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before it gets out of hand and then, you know,
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there's physical violence that happens just because
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they're frustrated. And I understand, but at
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some points they have to go home because they're
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a danger or they may injure another student.
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So, you know, that's another challenge that we
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face with some of the students that we work with.
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Do you think it also is a challenge to the students
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that they can't that some of them are not able
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to like sit still and they're kind of like oh
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I need to get up and get the hell out of this
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place and because I know very big challenge yes
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yeah very big challenge there's a lot of students
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that they just want to get up and be you know,
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walking around or doing something physical. And,
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you know, I've worked with students that will
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sit at their desk and do their work and just,
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you know, it just takes a little bit of extra
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time. But I've also worked with students that,
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you know, you just say, OK, let's just get this
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one this one task done and then we'll do, you
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know, a walk or we'll go to the gym or we'll
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go, you know, wherever it is around the school
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to do something in terms of physical activity.
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But, you know, that is a challenge. Yes, absolutely.
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and uh do you think that some of the uh do you
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think people on uh do you think the schools need
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to like rethink the locations of the special
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education classes and so i just like giving like
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a second thought like with that like maybe like
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okay you know we're just gonna put these people
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down all the way in the very very bottom of the
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school with the rats or I somewhat I somewhat
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agree and disagree with that because agree yes
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because they're always put in in the basements
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like from my personal experience um but I also
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agree because there are a lot of disruptions
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that happen Especially if you're working with
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high, high needs, like lower on the spectrum
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students, we have a lot of those in our school
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that make a lot of noise, that scream, that are
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violent, that throw like chairs or tables or
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whatever it is. And I think they try to keep
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that away from the general population as to not
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distract the classes that are going on and the
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learning that's going on. So they figure. If
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we put them in the basement, there's still other
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classrooms in the basement. We're just in our
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own section. So we have four classrooms in part
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of the hallway. And then at the other end of
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the hallway, there's another four classrooms.
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But it's separated by a stairwell that goes up
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to the next floor. So we're still in the same
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floor as other classrooms. It's just that we're
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separated in our own little section. just I guess
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so that the noise level doesn't happen like we
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had a lot of noise coming out of our classrooms.
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One of the other challenges I think is that some
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of the workers that that work with special needs
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kids and I say this very often is that there's
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a lot of older people that are working in special
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needs right now and when they were starting off
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in the job it wasn't the same as it is today.
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And there weren't as many tasks as there is today.
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And I guess the younger generation that's coming
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up and starting the jobs for special education
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have gotten a little bit more training in certain
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situations and know how to deal with certain
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situations a little more than the older generation.
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And that's not a knock on the older generation
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at all, because they're still doing a fantastic
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job keeping up with. um all the current situations
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that are going on it's just that they were so
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used to a certain way of doing things and then
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things progressively changed during the course
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of you know the past 20 years that they're still
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you know try their old ways which may not work
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anymore and uh we find that to be a challenge
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sometimes too because not everybody knows what
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to do and I think generally as a school board
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I think there should be more training for everybody.
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and how to deal with certain situations. Makes
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sense. Just trying to think if I have a... Ask
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away because you know what we're going to do?
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We're going to use this recording both you and
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I and we're going to put this into an episode.
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I'll edit it. I'll even edit it for you. Sure.
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Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. No, this will be good
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because this is a good, good chat because you're
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going to get it into a blog and then I'll get
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you to record maybe like a little intro part
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to it and I'll record an intro part to it and
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I'll put one up for me and one up for you. Like
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we'll do one for you as well. Awesome. Like what
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are the challenges that you face that you see
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as a student with the teacher like as a with
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an assistant or a teacher being in a classroom
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in a special education classroom? What are some
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of the challenges that you see? When I was in
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special education back in I wouldn't say from
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a high school point of view because when I was
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in high school because middle school I really
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liked I was in like one special education class
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for all my major subjects and everything so I
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didn't have to go from one class to another class
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only for my electives but in high school I had
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to jump from every single class and I don't I
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think it was totally bogus I had to do that and
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of that because there was this hallway that they
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the teacher and some teachers hated people being
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late and it's like it's not my fault and some
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teachers like tell me like well get here in time
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early well how do i do that and then i started
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working with some of my let's say more laid -back
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kind of teachers but I mean they still like were
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hard but they weren't like okay well I'm just
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gonna I'm gonna stop being ball -busted to you.
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What these people, what the laid -back teachers
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did like they started to let me go out of class
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like the last five minutes of class because obviously
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they're just going over what's due for homework
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and I have my teacher for a homeroom, my history
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teacher for a homeroom and so if I missed the
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last five minutes and like I had to stay home
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the next, like the next period so I could come
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right back to his classroom and say, hey, I need
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clarification and whatnot. And so they saw, let
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me, some of my teachers let me leave class early.
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But what I saw was my English teacher, she was
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in 12th grade. I think she kind of taught, I
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think she was like, there one too many years
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and uh I think she just I think what worked for
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her years ago did not necessarily work for me
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and she she thought I feel like she thought she
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could teach it she could have people learn at
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every single um at one level like one size fits
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all and it was totally annoying because like
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we were reading all these absurd books. Like
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one of them was The Great Gatsby. And I've heard
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of it. I never read it. I mean, I read it for
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a class, but I didn't even count it as a reading
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list on my personal library on Goodreads because
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I didn't even like, I'm really good at memorizing
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like what I read in books and whatnot. I don't
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remember what the hell I read. It was all a blur.
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And I was just trying to think. And there was
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times where she came in my study hall class.
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I was done with all my homework assignments.
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And she walks by and she says to me, you're supposed
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to be working at study hall. I'm already finished.
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And I go, yeah, well, let me see. She sits down.
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She makes me watch her. And there's one time.
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It was most annoying. I can answer this one question
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on this study guide that she was having a stint
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fill out and everything. She's like, oh, that's
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in the book. It's in the book, really. That's
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why I can't find it. And so she made me watch
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her flip through every single page in the book,
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scanning each page. I think it was like a 100
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-plus page book or something. And at the end
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of the study hall, she admits, you're right.
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The question wasn't in the book. I was like,
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gee, I'm right. Thank you. Thanks, Captain Obvious.
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And I probably shouldn't have been a smart ass
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to her, but she just kept on calling me lazy
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after lazy after lazy. And I was getting straight
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A's. If that makes me lazy, then let me try to
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get straight F's then. You know, I kind of see
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that every day as well throughout the different
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schools that I've been in. different adults treat
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the kids differently depending on who it is,
00:23:06.660 --> 00:23:08.900
who's working with who. There'll be some people
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that will back talk to the kids. There'll be
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some people that treat them like really, really
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well. There'll be some people that just don't
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want to pay attention. They're just there for
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a paycheck. Like you see everything. You see
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it all throughout the whole education system.
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It's no different than in a normal classroom
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setting. You still have teachers that really,
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really, really care. You have teachers that don't
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care at all. You have teachers that are just
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in the middle. I see that same thing throughout
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the education system, no matter where you go.
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Did you find it hard having different teachers
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every year and it was a different learning style
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for you? There was different expectations put
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on to you. I find that every time you get a different
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teacher, Like in our department, luckily, it's
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the same three teachers that are there. The classrooms
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usually stay the same year after year student
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-wise because there's different levels of the
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spectrum for each classroom. But do you find
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it hard if you have to go from teacher to teacher
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in what their expectations are for you personally?
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Uh, yes and no. Um, there was times where some
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of the people I talked, uh, that I went to, uh,
00:24:29.059 --> 00:24:31.880
some of my teachers, uh, like one of the teachers
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I had to go to, uh, she told me I needed to do
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A, B, C, and D, and I did A, B, C, and D. And
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then other teachers told me, it's like, forget
00:24:42.460 --> 00:24:45.779
what A, B, C, and D is in this room, and you
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have to follow my rules on this way. I'm really
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really confused and like I don't know like how
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your school district does it but every semester
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I got a different case manager and there's some
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IEP case managers that were really really great
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on top of the ball and there was other ones that
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just kind of did like the least work as possible
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and I hated when I was at the age where I was
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able to go to my own IEP meetings, as I had to
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sit there and listen to everyone say, you know,
00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:25.150
I think this will benefit Jimmy. And then it's
00:25:25.150 --> 00:25:27.150
like, and the other side argues like, no, no,
00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:30.480
this is not going to be well for Jimmy. I'm at
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the other end of the table. I mean, like at the
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very end of the table, like the head of the table.
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And I was like, well, Jimmy is sitting right
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here. And I think you're all a bunch of morons.
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:40.980
I mean, I did not say any of that, but. Yeah,
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see, see, it's different because you you understood
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and could communicate with with the people that
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were in on the IEPs. And, you know, we have students
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that don't understand and people talk in front
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:54.359
of them like they don't understand. But, you
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.859
know, in my head, I still feel like they understand
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they just can't communicate back. you know, what
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they want to say, whereas you understood and
00:26:01.819 --> 00:26:03.500
they were still saying these things in front
00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:05.799
of you saying that, you know, this is what's
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.039
going to benefit Jimmy. Only Jimmy knows what's
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:09.980
going to benefit Jimmy. Jimmy knows how to work
00:26:09.980 --> 00:26:12.799
at his own pace and you know how you're going
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.539
to be able to do things at a certain tempo, pace,
00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:17.779
whatever it is, you know how that's going to
00:26:17.779 --> 00:26:21.039
get completed. They're just putting expectations
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.599
on you because they want it done the way that
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:28.930
they want it done. Exactly. And during those
00:26:28.930 --> 00:26:31.069
meetings, I was not allowed to say anything.
00:26:31.470 --> 00:26:34.049
I was just sitting there minding my own business.
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And I was like, can I go back to class and be
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bored there? classes that that meeting interrupted.
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Some of them I liked and then there's some of
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them I absolutely hated. But one of the times
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when they were having the meetings was right
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in the middle of my art class and it's like you
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.579
pulled me out of my art class. I'd rather be
00:26:57.579 --> 00:26:59.799
getting back in art and I was like it's more
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:02.299
fun. But then there was times where it got me
00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:04.799
out of My English teacher's class and it's like,
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.920
yeah, yeah, she absolutely hated those meetings.
00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:11.880
And I and I loved it when I could see her that
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.900
just look at her face and say. I hate being here.
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.619
I could be anywhere here. And I was like, well,
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.180
if I'm stuck here, you're stuck with me. Yeah.
00:27:20.299 --> 00:27:23.660
Well, I see. I understand they book IEP meetings.
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:25.980
They have so many of them to do throughout the
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day or throughout the week or whatever time frame
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.279
that they have it set up for. I understand that
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.259
they have a lot of them to do and they have to
00:27:32.259 --> 00:27:35.119
pull you out at certain times. But you generally
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.819
want to keep the students in the classes that
00:27:37.819 --> 00:27:39.960
they enjoy more because it stimulates their brain
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:43.759
activity. It stimulates, you know, their enjoyment
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:47.240
in the program that you're in, whereas the ones
00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.059
that they're not totally engaged in, yes, they're
00:27:51.059 --> 00:27:53.700
going to have a little bit of trouble maybe if
00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:56.180
they miss a class, but they can always get help
00:27:56.180 --> 00:27:59.019
after any class just like any student in the
00:27:59.019 --> 00:28:01.960
school can. But if they're not engaged in that
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:03.599
class, they're still not retaining any of the
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.400
information and it's no good for them anyway,
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:10.599
right? And I also have to bring up, it's like,
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:13.960
you know, Like what can make those IEP meetings
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:19.000
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in the show notes. Now let's get back to the
00:33:54.660 --> 00:34:07.579
show. uh she has contacts that she passed along
00:34:07.579 --> 00:34:12.980
to me and whatnot and uh her point like uh one
00:34:12.980 --> 00:34:16.239
of the school districts that she uh worked with
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.280
made their uh kids go to their own IEP meetings
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:24.480
and actually talk in their own IEP meetings and
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.719
what and was asking and like telling them telling
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.219
the grown -ups what they need and uh and I thought
00:34:32.219 --> 00:34:36.269
that was kind of cool way it's like Now, if only
00:34:36.269 --> 00:34:39.590
colleges and school districts get their heads
00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:42.650
out of the clouds, they could start seeing. Because
00:34:42.650 --> 00:34:47.989
for instance, accommodations for college, and
00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:50.690
I don't know if it's everywhere in every college,
00:34:52.110 --> 00:34:55.610
but the colleges, OK, one accommodation I could
00:34:55.610 --> 00:34:59.289
get is a note taking. However, that's only. benefits
00:34:59.289 --> 00:35:02.449
me if someone wants to be willing to be a note
00:35:02.449 --> 00:35:05.409
taker. If no one wants to be a note taker technically
00:35:05.409 --> 00:35:07.730
I don't get accommodation that accommodation
00:35:07.730 --> 00:35:10.670
so I was like this is an accommodation and I
00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:14.070
was like you guys don't even like try it. The
00:35:14.070 --> 00:35:17.809
teacher has to do is like, and I'm not like blaming
00:35:17.809 --> 00:35:20.550
teachers or anything in college, but it's like,
00:35:20.550 --> 00:35:23.650
well, we have someone in this class that has
00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:26.690
an accommodation for note taking, would anybody
00:35:26.690 --> 00:35:31.170
be interested in it? And no one ever says, I
00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:34.969
never heard one person has said yes yet. And
00:35:34.969 --> 00:35:41.050
I think it's totally dumb, that's a kind of accommodation
00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:44.909
because you're kind of like setting people up
00:35:44.909 --> 00:35:48.150
to fail. Uh, because like, okay, if somebody
00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:50.110
doesn't want to be a note taker, you don't get
00:35:50.110 --> 00:35:52.250
that accommodation. Well, that was your only
00:35:52.250 --> 00:35:55.630
accommodation. And so you don't get it. That
00:35:55.630 --> 00:35:58.809
seems fair. We have technology. How about you
00:35:58.809 --> 00:36:02.989
let me have a, um, use a zoom and record the
00:36:02.989 --> 00:36:06.329
whole classroom and I can listen to my notes.
00:36:06.329 --> 00:36:09.829
I was like, well, uh, And of course, there's
00:36:09.829 --> 00:36:14.309
state laws that state, but you have to ask to
00:36:14.309 --> 00:36:16.789
record people and everything. How do you put
00:36:16.789 --> 00:36:19.489
that in the accommodations? Just let me record.
00:36:19.989 --> 00:36:23.530
As I ask anybody that way, there we go. I don't
00:36:23.530 --> 00:36:26.469
know. Again, I'm not a lawyer or anything. Yeah,
00:36:26.630 --> 00:36:28.829
the accommodations are a hard part of it as well.
00:36:29.349 --> 00:36:33.530
They can't accommodate everything that they put
00:36:33.530 --> 00:36:37.679
into the IEPs. any of the like the testing that
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.719
they do they try to do as best they can but there's
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:44.059
been a few things that I've noticed throughout
00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:47.199
the years I mean I don't have any specific examples
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.380
off hand but I mean throughout the years that
00:36:49.380 --> 00:36:51.880
I've been with certain uh grade students like
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.179
I've I've worked right from kindergarten all
00:36:54.179 --> 00:36:56.179
the way up until you know the kids have been
00:36:56.179 --> 00:36:59.539
21 years old uh so I've seen a lot of the different
00:36:59.539 --> 00:37:01.599
accommodations that were set and then you sit
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.679
there and you think about it and say like okay
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.300
you know what like this student might be colorblind
00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:08.519
like this student does not know how to hold a
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.400
pencil and they're not able to write like there's
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.239
got to be something else and and they will say
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.460
that exact thing well that's not in their accommodation
00:37:15.460 --> 00:37:18.940
so we got to get them to do it themselves and
00:37:18.940 --> 00:37:21.320
I'm like I'm fully aware that we need to get
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.519
them to do with themselves but until we can get
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.260
them to that point there's got to be an accommodation
00:37:26.260 --> 00:37:29.550
for them to to make it up until that point. And,
00:37:29.630 --> 00:37:31.349
you know, so I've seen a lot of that throughout
00:37:31.349 --> 00:37:35.150
the years. And I kind of think it's kind of weird
00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:38.070
is that like some of the accommodation, other
00:37:38.070 --> 00:37:42.090
accommodations, like for instance, like if you
00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:46.150
need assisting technology, they have to go through
00:37:46.150 --> 00:37:51.210
hoops and it may or may not happen. And I just
00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:53.949
kind of thinking is like, well, we have, you
00:37:53.949 --> 00:37:56.949
guys have a boat, like a huge tech department
00:37:56.949 --> 00:38:01.570
and the latest. you guys say on the websites
00:38:01.570 --> 00:38:04.050
and everything, we have the latest technology.
00:38:04.570 --> 00:38:07.489
Well, how about you start investing in some technology
00:38:07.489 --> 00:38:10.110
to get assisted technology because you want,
00:38:10.369 --> 00:38:13.250
well, gee, guess what? If you're accommodating
00:38:13.250 --> 00:38:16.730
more people who have extra challenges equals
00:38:16.730 --> 00:38:20.349
more money for you guys. Cha -ching. Yeah. See,
00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:23.949
I noticed like a couple of times that I've worked
00:38:23.949 --> 00:38:26.579
with students that they were They're non -verbal,
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.920
but they were able to do at least like one or
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.280
two word strings together. And, you know, they
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.559
would, we would have teams come in and they would
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.659
tell us, you know, they need to use the iPad
00:38:38.659 --> 00:38:40.980
to ask to go to the washroom. So they would have
00:38:40.980 --> 00:38:43.639
a program set up where they would touch the button
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.599
and it would say washroom. And I refused to use
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.380
it. And they told me, no, no, no, no, you need
00:38:49.380 --> 00:38:51.480
to use it. And I'm like, no, but the student
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.920
can say, I need to use the washroom. Why am I
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.300
letting them use the iPad to do it for them when
00:38:58.300 --> 00:39:00.559
they can say it themselves? And they'll say,
00:39:00.619 --> 00:39:03.619
well, that's because that's what's in their IEP.
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.840
We need them to use it. They're using it at home.
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.820
We want them to transfer and use it at school.
00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:10.199
I'm like, but this kid knows how to communicate
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.519
that they need to use the washroom. Why are we
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.300
using this? So when they left and not to knock
00:39:15.300 --> 00:39:16.679
them or anything, because I know they're doing
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:18.659
their job, but when they left, I wouldn't do
00:39:18.659 --> 00:39:21.199
it because I wanted to encourage the verbal aspect
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.179
of it if they were able to do it. It's no different
00:39:24.179 --> 00:39:26.579
than them saying to me, you know what, I can
00:39:26.579 --> 00:39:29.760
speak in sentences, but you know what, we did
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.719
like some tests on you and we want you to use
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:33.800
the iPad. Like there's no, there's no reason
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.920
for it. If they're able to communicate that verbally.
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.420
That's kind of like, uh, I have, uh, I heard,
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.079
I don't know if the same, uh, if the same, uh,
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.480
if you don't use it, you lose it would apply
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.239
here. But I like the same very much because I
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.579
think it's kind of true. If you don't use your
00:39:52.579 --> 00:39:56.320
voice. Do you lose it? I don't know. I don't
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:58.300
want to find out. Well, not that you're going
00:39:58.300 --> 00:40:02.320
to lose it, but you may lose certain tools that
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.000
you would have in your verbal aspect of it. You
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.440
would lose maybe some of your vocabulary or forget
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:10.920
certain things that you used to be able to see.
00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:13.139
And especially those that were lower on the spectrum,
00:40:13.139 --> 00:40:15.860
right? They may forget what they were trying
00:40:15.860 --> 00:40:17.800
to say and then it doesn't come out the way they
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.719
wanted to come out anymore because they were
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.739
being trained so much on the iPad or technology
00:40:22.739 --> 00:40:26.079
to do it for them. We have a student at our school
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.500
that is verbal but won't talk at school. And,
00:40:29.579 --> 00:40:33.320
you know, there's there's no, I guess, reinforcement
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:35.420
for him to speak verbally. They let him use the
00:40:35.420 --> 00:40:38.420
iPad. And it's it boggles my mind because we
00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:41.820
know at home he speaks, but at school he won't
00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:44.159
do it. So, you know, you got to use different
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:48.460
tactics in terms of getting communication, I
00:40:48.460 --> 00:40:53.059
guess, together with the students and the parents
00:40:53.059 --> 00:40:56.079
and, you know, the school system and everything
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.400
together so that these kids can succeed as best
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.519
as possible and be able to get out into the world
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.679
after they turn 21 and they're done school. um
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:09.360
that they're able to succeed out in the the uh
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.340
the world if if they're gonna have a job after
00:41:12.340 --> 00:41:14.940
or if they're gonna go to day camps after or
00:41:14.940 --> 00:41:17.400
if they're gonna just you know stay at home uh
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.280
you still want what's best for them at the end
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:25.119
of the day exactly and uh i just think that sometimes
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.840
the sometimes i feel like the iop's work not
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.869
always in your best interest yeah and like it
00:41:31.869 --> 00:41:35.449
can work against you like uh like I said like
00:41:35.449 --> 00:41:39.429
then note taking or uh like now I can actually
00:41:39.429 --> 00:41:43.070
like when I was going into college in person
00:41:43.070 --> 00:41:48.550
uh I'm able to use my computers to uh take notes
00:41:48.550 --> 00:41:52.030
on and sometimes I just press record on my computer
00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:56.489
just to and like I don't, I'm not a person to
00:41:56.489 --> 00:42:03.090
sell notes or anything. I'm not that kind of
00:42:03.090 --> 00:42:07.289
person and so I just save my notes so I can go
00:42:07.289 --> 00:42:10.690
back to listen because Sometimes, even though
00:42:10.690 --> 00:42:13.210
I'm paying attention, there's just a lot of information
00:42:13.210 --> 00:42:17.210
for me to retain. And then if I don't retain
00:42:17.210 --> 00:42:19.409
it, I'm like, okay, crap, what did the teacher
00:42:19.409 --> 00:42:21.969
say? What did the teacher say? Nope, I have no
00:42:21.969 --> 00:42:26.530
idea what the teacher said. I think a lot of,
00:42:26.530 --> 00:42:29.610
I guess, special needs departments are also hampered
00:42:29.610 --> 00:42:33.690
by curriculum so like a lot of the times you
00:42:33.690 --> 00:42:37.010
don't want to stray away from the everyday routine
00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:40.309
uh like you're you're still doing your math you're
00:42:40.309 --> 00:42:42.050
still doing your english you're still doing your
00:42:42.050 --> 00:42:44.250
writing you're still doing whatever whatever
00:42:44.250 --> 00:42:46.809
courses it is depending on the level that the
00:42:46.809 --> 00:42:49.389
students are at and and i like to have fun with
00:42:49.389 --> 00:42:51.949
the students and you know i used to sing and
00:42:51.949 --> 00:42:54.369
dance before covid with some of the students
00:42:54.369 --> 00:42:57.340
and this year because things are opening back
00:42:57.340 --> 00:42:59.699
up and we may be allowed to like congregate with
00:42:59.699 --> 00:43:04.320
classes again. I want to start a podcast with
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.840
some of the students in the special needs department
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.599
and get them to tell stories of their everyday
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.639
lives or maybe be able to interview and try and
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.420
build some of those communication skills with
00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:19.769
them that way. and then just put it out there
00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:21.909
and you know and and that's something for them
00:43:21.909 --> 00:43:24.429
to look forward to so you know there's there's
00:43:24.429 --> 00:43:27.070
other things that you can do in departments that
00:43:27.070 --> 00:43:29.989
aren't necessarily school curriculum that will
00:43:29.989 --> 00:43:33.090
actually help benefit the students outside of
00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:36.210
school when they're done because you know in
00:43:36.210 --> 00:43:38.610
in the department that I'm in um there aren't
00:43:38.610 --> 00:43:41.070
a lot of high functioning kids so at the end
00:43:41.070 --> 00:43:43.650
of their school tenure I don't think that they're
00:43:43.650 --> 00:43:46.329
going to go out and get like an office job or
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:50.260
um like you know some like high executive job
00:43:50.260 --> 00:43:52.340
or anything like that not to say that they can't
00:43:52.340 --> 00:43:54.039
because you know they're they're they can do
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.360
anything that they want but at the end of the
00:43:56.360 --> 00:44:00.579
day um they uh hold on one sec sorry but there's
00:44:00.579 --> 00:44:03.400
further ones in there yeah for just me yeah whatever
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:08.119
yeah yeah yeah um sorry um i i lost where i was
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.519
there yeah no uh i think um like doing things
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:17.929
differently with with the kids um it just it
00:44:17.929 --> 00:44:21.550
allows them to actually look forward to something
00:44:21.550 --> 00:44:24.590
and then they may choose this type of communication
00:44:24.590 --> 00:44:26.750
inside of the school like like i was saying our
00:44:26.750 --> 00:44:29.710
our kids um some of them are low functioning
00:44:29.710 --> 00:44:31.630
kids and they and they won't be having like you
00:44:31.630 --> 00:44:34.329
know regular jobs when they finish school so
00:44:34.329 --> 00:44:36.090
you know if this gives them something to look
00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:38.610
forward to or they get to interview you know
00:44:38.610 --> 00:44:41.110
maybe a celebrity that they they really really
00:44:41.110 --> 00:44:45.130
want to talk to or um being able to just improve
00:44:45.130 --> 00:44:48.070
on their communication skills um and then you
00:44:48.070 --> 00:44:50.590
kind of say you know what do you want to do video
00:44:50.590 --> 00:44:54.329
where you know you can uh learn the eye contact
00:44:54.329 --> 00:44:56.969
portion of it and you know they're just just
00:44:56.969 --> 00:44:59.250
different verbal communications or verbal cues
00:44:59.250 --> 00:45:02.449
and and stuff like that so i mean i think it
00:45:02.449 --> 00:45:04.929
would be really really interesting um if they
00:45:04.929 --> 00:45:07.389
let me go ahead and do uh what i have planned
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to do That would be awesome because I know like
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some of the electives I got to do in high school,
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one of them was this TV slash movie class and
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there was actually like a kind of a TV set in
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the classroom and so people got to actually work,
00:45:28.869 --> 00:45:31.309
the students got to work the lights, cameras,
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and actually we got to be behind the desk. And
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that's how they did the, uh, uh, I guess you'd
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call it like, um, morning, uh, introductions
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and that pledge of allegiance and whatnot. And
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so, and they actually did the weather and even
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though that they got it like wrong, like a hundred
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percent of the time, but I mean, that's science
00:45:53.449 --> 00:45:56.969
for you, but, uh, but you know what, and, and,
00:45:57.170 --> 00:45:59.210
you know, I can also teach them, you know, how
00:45:59.210 --> 00:46:01.659
to edit. And, you know, there's different things
00:46:01.659 --> 00:46:04.079
that they can do on the computer behind the scenes
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if they don't really want to be a voice on the
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microphone or a face on the camera. There's different
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things that they can do behind the scenes that
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.739
they may be able to do when they leave high school,
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because, you know what, we didn't know that they
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.699
had those skills on the computer because we don't
00:46:18.699 --> 00:46:21.000
give them that opportunity because we want them
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to be, you know, at their desk and writing and
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doing this and doing that. And, you know, if
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we give them that opportunity, maybe they excel
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at that. and they just can't communicate with
00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:35.880
us to say, hey, this is something I want to do,
00:46:36.139 --> 00:46:37.960
but we have no idea that that's what they want
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to do. So I'm going to try and bring that forward
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and see if that's something that we can work
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on and see if that's something the kids would
00:46:45.019 --> 00:46:46.840
enjoy. I know there's a few kids that would love
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:49.460
to do it because they aren't shy on a microphone
00:46:49.460 --> 00:46:51.059
at all because they would get on a microphone
00:46:51.059 --> 00:46:54.039
and sing in the classroom. So I don't think they
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:56.099
would be shy at all to do it. And especially
00:46:56.099 --> 00:47:00.000
if they're with me, they trust me. So I would
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actually be on with them and help them and guide
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them along the way and let them run the show.
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But I mean, I'd be there just in case that they
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had any issues or any like, you know, dead space
00:47:10.539 --> 00:47:12.579
that they they didn't feel comfortable talking.
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That would be awesome. Like, I remember like
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:20.260
in the class, we got to learn like. uh we were
00:47:20.260 --> 00:47:23.619
watching the movie Twilight uh obviously it was
00:47:23.619 --> 00:47:25.739
not my most favorite movie that we watched but
00:47:25.739 --> 00:47:29.159
my teacher actually pointed out scenes that no
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.420
one else would have like picked up on but she
00:47:32.420 --> 00:47:35.139
was like uh see how this person was running and
00:47:35.139 --> 00:47:37.780
she like played it in slo -mo and I was like
00:47:37.780 --> 00:47:40.940
I was like that's fake it's all edited to make
00:47:40.940 --> 00:47:44.639
it look so real and I was like that's cool and
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:46.639
like she had this like special kind of program
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.000
on the computer I was like stop And she's like,
00:47:50.019 --> 00:47:52.519
you should be tried it along. It's like, see,
00:47:52.619 --> 00:47:55.639
it's like not even touching the ground. And it's
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.500
like, I want this program. Yeah. She won't even
00:47:59.500 --> 00:48:02.599
tell me what it was. Yeah, it's going to be interesting.
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.019
I'm hoping that we can do something like that
00:48:06.019 --> 00:48:08.400
this year. I think it'll make it fun for the
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:10.659
students. I think it'll give them a different
00:48:10.659 --> 00:48:15.300
outlook on certain things. The teachers might
00:48:15.300 --> 00:48:17.139
enjoy it because it might give them a little
00:48:17.139 --> 00:48:19.610
bit of a break. um from working with the students
00:48:19.610 --> 00:48:21.690
and we can do different programming with them
00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:24.030
um so we'll see where it goes hopefully uh the
00:48:24.030 --> 00:48:26.909
kids all you know take to it and enjoy doing
00:48:26.909 --> 00:48:30.989
it yeah hopefully well like my mom always says
00:48:30.989 --> 00:48:34.449
nothing venture nothing gain absolutely that's
00:48:34.449 --> 00:48:36.150
right yeah you don't give it a try you never
00:48:36.150 --> 00:48:40.269
know right yeah that's that's been going on over
00:48:40.269 --> 00:48:42.530
my head for the last four years of running crazy
00:48:42.530 --> 00:48:46.730
fitness guy yeah yeah absolutely yeah all right
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:48.659
Well, I think you got a lot there. Like, I mean,
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:50.460
you can turn this into a blog. If you want to
00:48:50.460 --> 00:48:53.739
send me the recording, just email it to me. And
00:48:53.739 --> 00:48:55.780
I'll I'll edit it up. Nice. I don't know how
00:48:55.780 --> 00:48:57.300
long it's going to take me. Hopefully I can get
00:48:57.300 --> 00:49:01.400
it done this week. And then I'm just going to
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.300
use it for nets on my end for the blog post.
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.280
Yeah. Yeah. And I'll turn it into an episode.
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