Sept. 30, 2025

Mind Over Matter: Strategies for a Healthier Brain with Dr. Ryan Williamson

Mind Over Matter: Strategies for a Healthier Brain with Dr. Ryan Williamson
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Mind Over Matter: Strategies for a Healthier Brain with Dr. Ryan Williamson

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In this episode of The CrazyFitnessGuy® Show, join host Jimmy Clare as he welcomes Dr. Ryan Williamson, a board-certified neurologist and author of the upcoming book, The Incredible Brain. Dr. Williamson shares his journey from a young man grappling with loss to a medical professional dedicated to educating others about brain health and preventative care.

We dive deep into the complexities of the brain, discussing how it processes information and the importance of nutrition in maintaining cognitive function. Dr. Williamson emphasizes the need for a shift from our current "sick care" system to one that prioritizes health and prevention. He also addresses the challenges posed by the insurance industry and the role of AI in healthcare, all while providing actionable strategies for listeners to enhance their brain health.

Key Takeaways:

- The brain is the most fascinating organ and plays a crucial role in our overall health.

- Nutrition significantly impacts brain function and overall well-being.

- Understanding the healthcare system can empower patients to seek better care.

- Simple changes in diet and lifestyle can lead to substantial improvements in health.

- Engaging in brain-stimulating activities, like puzzles, can help maintain cognitive function.

Whether you’re looking to improve your own brain health or understand the medical landscape better, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration. Don’t miss out on Dr. Williamson’s valuable advice and his new book, available soon!

Mentioned Tools & Resources:

- Transcend Health - Learn more about Dr. Williamson's work.

- The Incredible Brain - Available for purchase on Amazon.

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a brand new episode. Now, let's dive into the

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show. Welcome to another episode of the Crazy

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Fitness Guy Show slash Weekly Motivation with

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Crazy Fitness Guy. Before we get started, and

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I'll worry about that later. Before we get started,

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I have to say, did you know that neurologists,

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well, the people in the neurologist office I

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went to yesterday, well, let's just say... They

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held a special place somewhere because, holy

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moly, trying to get an appointment, non -existent.

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They're like, you need a referral. And I was

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like, I called your office 12 times and now you're

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telling me I need a referral? And I was like,

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and the reason why they couldn't get back to

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me because they were watching movies on their

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phone. Oh, geez. Sorry to hear that. I'm like,

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perfect. Love it. Yeah. I think they need to

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get their own brains checked out. They have once.

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I'm not going to name any names, but yay. Yeah,

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that was my day yesterday. I'm like, what else

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can go wrong this week? We all have weeks like

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that, don't we? Yep. I love those weeks, but

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welcome, Dr. Ryan, for coming to the show. Thank

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you so much for having me. So before we get started,

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can you tell us a little bit about who you are,

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what you do, how you got started, and why you

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got started? Yeah, of course. So again, Ryan

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Williamson. I'm a board -certified neurologist.

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I'm the owner and founder of Transcend Health

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and author of my new book, The Incredible Brain,

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which actually comes out September 9th. So pretty

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excited about that because we're right around

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the corner. But before I did any of that, we

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kind of go back to the early years of my life.

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I witnessed a lot of suffering. And this was,

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at the time, I really didn't fully appreciate

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where this would, I guess, send me or what it

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would do. But I lost a lot of people I was close

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with when I was young. And that certainly turned

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some early gears in terms of how I questioned

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what life meant, why people died or why did bad

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things happen. So that pushed me into a career

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in medicine. And it really wasn't until I finished

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My medical training where I became a neurologist

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because the brain certainly is fascinating. I'm

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sure we'll get into that at some point here soon.

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But once I got into clinical practice, you know,

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Jimmy, your story actually hits the nail on the

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head because I felt like I couldn't provide the

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care that I wanted to to my patients. And, you

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know, Western medicine is very siloed. It's very

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reactive. We don't really have a health care

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system. We have a sick care system. Doctors are

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trained to treat their tiny little corner of

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the body. And even in many cases, they subspecialize.

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So within neurology, we have people that just

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do stroke or just do headache. And it's like

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that in the surgical subspecialties everywhere

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else. So that system produces world -class experts,

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but it doesn't do a whole lot for keeping people

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healthy because doctors are paid to really solve

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the problem that's in front of them, not necessarily

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keep people in a healthier state. And again,

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for what I do, I mean, I see a lot of people

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that suffer from conditions like Alzheimer's,

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which is the most common type of dementia, strokes,

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where part of the brain dies due to a blood clot

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in the wrong place, or even worse problems like

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brain death. And it took me a while to figure

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this out, but so many of these problems are so

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preventable. And very few people are talking

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about... how they're preventable, why they're

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preventable, and what we can do to actually avoid

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them in 90 plus percent of cases, which is what

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the medical literature shows us. So the last

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few years, I've been on this journey to help

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educate my patients and my clients through my

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coaching practice and just get this message out

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to as many people as I can, which is part of

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why I wrote the book and part of why I'm on your

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podcast. That's kind of the CliffsNotes version.

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We can go in any direction you want after that.

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Well, I definitely want to read your book because

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I'm interested about the brain as well, especially

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when I come across some people who might not

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have a brain. I'm not going to name any names.

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My insurance company. And I'm invited to them

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currently, which is very fun. But I want to ask

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you a quick question, and I'm going to detour

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on this. A slight little detour on this, but

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I want to ask you. So, hypothetically, I don't

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know the exact numbers off the top of my head,

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and I don't have them in front of me, just being

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honest and transparent. So this is going to be

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a wordy question a little bit. So, I don't know.

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how much med school costs just for a primary

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care doctor, let alone a neurologist and all

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the other specialty kind of doctors. So where

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my question is going, so obviously there's some

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type of doctor on their insurance side of the

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company to just deny, deny, deny, deny. But I

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was curious, they might be in knowledge in a

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few areas, like they might have read a book about

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something and whatnot. And you might not know

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this answer, but let's just say hypothetically,

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if somehow somebody knew everything had a degree

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and every little specialty out there, like I

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said, hypothetically. because I haven't met somebody

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like that, but just hypothetically, if they went

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to every single schooling degree for every single

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doctorate degree out there, for every specialty

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out there, just so that they can work in insurance

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and whatnot, wouldn't they be pretty much in

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a couple of million dollars in debt? Yeah, it's

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a good question. So kind of a multi -part question

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here, if I heard you right, Jimmy. But to answer

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the first part, whether you ultimately become

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a surgeon or a family doctor, primary care neurologist,

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everybody that goes through four years of medical

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school through the traditional Western route,

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which is to become an MD like me or a DO or something

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equivalent, that's four years of medical school

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in the United States. And that, whether you're

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at a... You're an in -state student at a state

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university or you're maybe out of state versus

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going to a private school. Gosh, anymore, I mean,

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that tuition can be $30 ,000, $40 ,000, $50 ,000,

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or maybe even approaching $100 ,000 a year, depending

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on where you are, not including living expenses

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and materials, et cetera. So, yes, medical education

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is very expensive. I was in the Navy for about

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12 years, which is something I always wanted

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to do. And one of the incentives for me to go

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through that training was to have the military

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pay for medical school. That's certainly not

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the only reason I commissioned, but that was,

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again, that's sort of part of the agreement and

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that contract. But if you were to go through

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multiple residencies, which is what happens after

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you go through four years of medical school,

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neurology takes four years, for example, internal

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medicine, family medicine, three years. And the

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neurosurgery, for example, is a seven -year training

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after medical school. It's very lengthy. You

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can very quickly get into a multi -decade training

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pathway where, yes, you might be acquiring relevant

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skills and certainly always learning, but the

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practicality of recouping some of that investment,

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to your point, if somebody has a multi -six -figure

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student loan burden and they're making maybe

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I don't know, $50 ,000, $60 ,000 a year as a

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resident, which is fairly average pay depending

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on where you are throughout the country, which

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is fairly equivalent depending on what you do.

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So i .e. a family doctor and a neurosurgeon don't

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make that. Their training pay is not much different,

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even though their attending pay when they're

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fully trained and board certified after could

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be quite different. Sort of a loaded question

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in a lot of different directions, but yes, you

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could very easily rack up a ton of debt if you

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were going through all these different educational

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programs and systems, or maybe you got a master's

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in public health, or maybe you wanted to go to

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law school. I mean, that could be very expensive

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in a hurry. And if you weren't actively working

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toward paying off that debt or generating an

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income, that could be a problem. And then back

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to the insurance, I think you also bring up a

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really important point here. This is back to

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this whole issue that we have with our sick care

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system is that insurance companies are for profit.

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So, you know, by definition, they cover people,

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quote unquote, for their health care needs. And

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everybody pays into a giant pool of funds that

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the insurance company goes and invests and tries

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to make some money on that money. And by definition,

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they're trying to pay out as little as possible

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to keep as much profit as they can. Right. That's

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how the game works. And ideally, they're helping

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people along the way that need financial assistance

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through their insurance. Well, if we zoom out

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from that, because I don't think that's a great

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model in general, maybe it's necessary, maybe

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it's one of the better models we have. But if

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we keep people healthier and we keep them out

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of the hospital more and we keep them out of

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a clinic more or out of an emergency department

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or wherever, there's a lower burden on the insurance

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companies so that there's more capital or more

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funds reserved for people that need the more

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emergent treatments rather than kind of chasing

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our tail on problems that are preventable in

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the first place. So there is, I suppose, a more

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systemic or even financial reason that I'm doing

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this to try to just help educate people on how

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to take better care of themselves. Because that

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does free up more money and more resources for

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people to go see a neurologist sooner and not

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have a long wait list or to not have to fight

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with insurance companies that are really trying

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to claw back every dollar that's in the pool

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of their funds. Well, the reason I asked that

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question was because, well, it is because when

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I learned about that there's a doctor in every

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single insurance company, my thought is like,

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they can't be a possible expert on everything.

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It's like, you might have read a book on something,

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but it doesn't mean you're an expert. And it's

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like, there's a person, it's like, yeah, you

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might've read something about neurology, but

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you're not a neurologist. You can't possibly

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be everything. And if you can possibly be everything,

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then you must be like freaking Google or something.

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But, and I'm not saying you personally, I just

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mean the doctor in the insurance company, because

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like, it's, There's no possible way. And it's

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like, you would have to be in a couple million

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dollar debt. And I was like, well, it sucks to

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be you, but again, not you personally. I mean,

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just that person over there. Yeah. No, of course.

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Well, and so in my experience, physicians that

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work for insurance companies tend to be more.

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generalists, meaning they're maybe internal medicine

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trained, where they've got a very broad array

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of conditions that they're familiar with. But

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no, I mean, by definition, they can't, I mean,

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none of us can be an expert in everything. Our

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brains are amazingly complex, but they don't

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quite work that well. So it is frustrating to

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be in a situation where people are denied coverage

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or care. because they're at the limitation or

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the mercy of a provider somewhere who denies

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a prior authorization, which is a common process

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to have a reimbursement approved. But I will

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say that, again, back to that baseline level

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of education that every doctor has because they

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go through that training pipeline, while they

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may not know the specifics or the ins and outs

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of every nuanced disease, they have the framework

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within which to think and understand if they

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were to go look up, person A comes in with this

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condition and they've got this diagnosis and

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they need these treatments or they've failed

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first, second, third line therapy and now they

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need to be approved for something else. They

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should be able to think their way through that

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logically rather than needing to be a quote unquote

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expert on that specific condition. Because again,

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that would be very difficult. And that opens

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up another interesting path of discussion. I

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don't know how much you or your audience follow

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the trends in AI. But we are almost at a point

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where these large language models are good enough

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to be able to do most of that heavy lifting and

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act as every expert in the room because of the

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vast amount of information that it's trained

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on and the general processing power of these

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models. They're not perfect yet. And certainly

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in healthcare, I still think they have a ways

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to go, but they're getting there very, very quickly.

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And again, there may even be some models that

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I'm unaware of that are probably already there,

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whether they're released or not. But I think

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we're headed there in short order as far as that

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being a big tool. And certainly on the patient

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care front, but maybe even to be utilized by

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insurance companies. Well, you know, honestly,

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it's funny that you brought up the AI because

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I had someone else on here who was also a doctor

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said that AI is right now is in... favor of the

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insurance companies and uh rolling in their favor

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all the time and it's like we gotta train it

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to be in our favor and i was like i was like

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i like i got stinking because it's like i'm not

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saying like i'm abby little nook and cranny but

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i said to someone a tongue -in -cheek kind of

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joke but also some truth behind it If I had to

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pick between my two insurance companies, mental

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health one and the regular health one, and pick

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between those two and AI, I would literally choose

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AI as my health insurance provider because at

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least, you know, even if it rejected something

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right off the bat, at least it would show some

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remorse. where the insurance company has no feeling

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whatsoever. And I know it's just a person relaying

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a message on the phone and whatnot, but it's

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like, well, at least AI has some like, oh, I'm

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sorry you feel that way versus insurers just

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don't cold, pretty much like serial killer type

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cold. Well, Jimmy, I'm certainly sorry to hear

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you've had that experience. And again, I think

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you bring up another interesting point in that

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in kind of a faceless, nameless organization,

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certain organizations don't have feelings, but

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people should. But as we're training AI, they're

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becoming better and better at mimicking human

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behavior. But there's a real debate around consciousness,

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around to what degree does a large language model

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become an entity? That it could generate its

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own thoughts, you know, or have its own feelings.

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Certainly, by definition, you know, an AI can't

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have human feelings because it is not in fact

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human, but it can emulate them very well. And

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that's a, I've come across some interesting conversations

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with people that, you know, where humans are

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interacting with AI and developing sort of this,

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you know, one -way relationship where they feel

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attached to this. computer or this agent because

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they believe that the machine is providing companionship

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or maybe even loving them back. And we're in

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a very interesting paradigm there as far as what

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that means for the world. So there's a lot of

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directions we could go with that. But anyway,

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we have some new puzzles in front of us to say

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the least. Yeah. I'm not getting any of my names,

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but I had some people said around me that I was

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like, yeah, you know, maybe since he can't get

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any girlfriends and whatnot, he's going to have

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an AI girlfriend. And I was like, I can't comment

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on that. I was like, I don't think he want my

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comment on that. So I'm just going to keep my

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mouth shut. There it was. Five or maybe 10 years

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ago, there was a movie with Joaquin Phoenix called

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Her. Did you ever see that? No. I've seen bits

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and pieces of it. I've never watched it all the

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way through, but I think it's a prescient movie

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because he plays this human who I believe falls

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in love with an AI or an assistant. And it kind

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of goes through what is that like? That seemed

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like science fiction in 2015 or 2016. I forget

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when the movie came out. It wasn't that long

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ago. But now these are potential real -world

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problems that people are facing, which is just

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interesting. What is the movie called again?

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I believe it's called Her, H -E -R. You look

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up Her, Joaquin Phoenix. That should pull it

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up. I'm definitely going to look that up because

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that piqued my interest. I'm not going to get

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any sick ideas, but I'm just... I'm not that

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crazy. Please don't. So I was curious. So why

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do you find the brain so interesting? And before

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I have you answer that, I think for me, what

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I find interesting about the brain is that from

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my own artistic point of view, having to... think

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outside the box my brain sees in patterns and

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I kind of like to think that I mean I don't think

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I mean I wouldn't say I think higher than people

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but sometimes I like I see the smallest details

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like for instance I spotted something when I

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was traveling to Florida for a conference and

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I noticed on the boarding passes on mobile devices

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if you add it to your wallet like apple wallet

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or google wallet it doesn't show you the group

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number that you're supposed to board with i'm

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like you would think somebody would test that

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out and it's like come on developers billion

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dollar industry you can't get somebody good come

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on it's like this is amateur hour anyway that's

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my soapbox but so that's why i find the brain

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interesting because it's like You know, I think

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different. I know everybody thinks all differently

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and everything, but I like to see how nitpicky

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my brain is and see that small little details.

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Sometimes my parents kind of think it's kind

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of ridiculous. Like, Jimmy, you really have to

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spend so much time on the small details? He's

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like, not on every nook and cranny, but I can

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tell when something is off. boarding pass stuff

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and whatnot. It was like something a smidge off,

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like in an image. I was like, eh, you know what?

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It's not going to bother me. But it was just

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like, just something like as basic as the group

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stuff. It's like, oh, come on. That's supposed

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to be basic. Yeah. Well, again, Jimmy, you ask

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great questions and you bring up some very interesting

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topics. So for me, I think the brain is, easily

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the most fascinating organ in the human body.

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I mean, there may be some of my other specialist

00:23:09.170 --> 00:23:11.670
colleagues would disagree. I mean, nephrologists

00:23:11.670 --> 00:23:14.289
get pretty wound up about the kidney and cardiologists

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like the heart and we can't live without critical

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organs, but without our brain, we can't experience

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what it means to be human. Without a brain, we'd

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be zombies. Exactly. Exactly. So we can't, I

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mean, this gets into philosophy of life and consciousness

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and meaning and humanism and behavior, all kinds

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of interesting topics. But the brain is the place

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where we make sense of the natural world around

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us. So your brain is this giant supercomputer.

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And it processes all of the millions of bits

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of sensory information that are streaming into

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it every second. It gets about 11 million bits

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every second is what your brain actually receives.

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Although what's interesting is the number of

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bits that can only make it to your level of conscious

00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:08.599
perception is on the order of like 50 bits a

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second. So it's a very, very small amount that

00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:13.559
we can actually focus our attention on. But I

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say all that to say that it's very nuanced. It's

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incredibly special. It's trainable, so you can

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modify it throughout your life depending on what

00:24:21.789 --> 00:24:24.049
you do with it or, you know, what you read or

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what podcast you're on or where you travel or

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what you eat. So it's this plastic or sort of

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flexible organ. And you're right. I mean, every

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brain is different. And everybody in their life

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circumstances and the differences in their neural

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architecture, their structure, you know, what

00:24:44.130 --> 00:24:46.349
their experiences have been, their education.

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all arrive at different conclusions and generate

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different behavioral outputs that make us all

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unique. And people that have autism in particular,

00:24:56.450 --> 00:24:59.190
or they're on the autism spectrum, have a different

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brain than other people. And so to your point,

00:25:02.789 --> 00:25:06.710
you are very good at noticing specific details

00:25:06.710 --> 00:25:09.250
that the average person probably wouldn't even

00:25:09.250 --> 00:25:14.970
recognize if you asked him 10 times. And I find

00:25:14.970 --> 00:25:17.309
that interesting because... Neurology in particular

00:25:17.309 --> 00:25:20.890
is a very nuanced field and it pushes a lot of

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doctors away because a lot of doctors don't really

00:25:24.029 --> 00:25:26.289
like it, quite frankly. So there's some job security

00:25:26.289 --> 00:25:29.470
for me, I guess. But I don't think this has ever

00:25:29.470 --> 00:25:31.490
been studied. This is pure conjecture on my part,

00:25:31.549 --> 00:25:33.609
just an anecdotal observation. So please take

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that with a grain of salt. But it appears to

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me that neurology tends to attract more people

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on the autism spectrum and people with, say,

00:25:42.769 --> 00:25:45.130
Asperger's, for example, that go through medical

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school. Because of the particularities and because

00:25:47.809 --> 00:25:49.970
of the kind of nuances, for whatever reason,

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I've just made this observation my entire career.

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No matter where I go or what hospital I work

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in, it just tends to attract that kind of person,

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which is interesting. But, you know, think about,

00:26:00.789 --> 00:26:03.450
I mean, look at Elon Musk, right? I mean, he's

00:26:03.450 --> 00:26:05.349
maybe he's taken a lot of political heat lately

00:26:05.349 --> 00:26:08.670
for the election cycle and the Doge thing and

00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:10.230
whatever. But, I mean, forget about that for

00:26:10.230 --> 00:26:13.579
a minute. He's arguably the most successful,

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if not one of the most successful people on the

00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.559
planet or to have ever lived. And he has a very

00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:21.880
particular way of viewing the world and solving

00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:25.579
problems that most other people don't. And he

00:26:25.579 --> 00:26:28.579
has Asperger's. And his brain is wired very differently

00:26:28.579 --> 00:26:31.420
than the average person. And he has gotten very

00:26:31.420 --> 00:26:33.980
good at making optimal use of that, which I think

00:26:33.980 --> 00:26:37.440
is just a fascinating case study of how an autistic

00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.180
brain, excuse me, is different than a non -autistic

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brain. for what that's worth. I mean, one thing

00:26:44.940 --> 00:26:49.299
I've also, I mean, even though I find the brain

00:26:49.299 --> 00:26:53.839
fascinating, I couldn't go into, go for it for

00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.640
science and whatnot because me and science do

00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.799
not work together. And I'm currently in my final

00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:04.759
class for my associate's degree, which I had

00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:08.400
to take for science, but I'm taking the very

00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:12.819
most basic science whatsoever, only because I'm

00:27:12.819 --> 00:27:18.740
not in a science major whatsoever. But I do find

00:27:18.740 --> 00:27:25.859
it interesting, which says a lot from my point

00:27:25.859 --> 00:27:28.839
of view, because growing up in public school,

00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:34.759
we did nothing, I mean, except for I think seventh

00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:40.019
grade and eighth grade. science class we got

00:27:40.019 --> 00:27:43.759
to do different kinds of experiments but in high

00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:47.880
school everybody's like i basically hyped it

00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.579
up so much it's like oh you got to do cool experiments

00:27:50.579 --> 00:27:54.319
i must have been in the lamest science class

00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:58.660
in high school because we didn't do squat the

00:27:58.660 --> 00:28:02.640
only thing we got to do was and uh for anybody

00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.619
who's listening to this If you're eating, you

00:28:05.619 --> 00:28:09.519
might not want to eat after this or listen to

00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:14.720
this part or make sure you allow yourself enough

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.259
room to digest what you're eating because what

00:28:18.259 --> 00:28:21.000
I'm going to say right now is totally disgusting,

00:28:21.140 --> 00:28:23.279
and I don't mean to sound totally disgusting.

00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:27.259
Luckily, I have not eaten my lunch yet. So if

00:28:27.259 --> 00:28:30.359
you puke later on, please don't blame it on me.

00:28:30.500 --> 00:28:35.319
So there's the warning for you. So the only thing

00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:39.359
that we did in one of my high school science

00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.599
classes as an experiment, we melted the fat off

00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:46.660
of Cheetos. And it was pretty cool and gross

00:28:46.660 --> 00:28:50.200
at the same time. And it stunk up the whole hallway

00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:54.039
for the whole rest of the semester, for the whole

00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:58.440
rest of school year. And I was like, so every

00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:04.119
time when people, there was a, I think a... There's

00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:08.519
like three, I think there's like three floors

00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:13.119
to our school, maybe two or three. And so every

00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:16.180
time when somebody went down the flight of stairs,

00:29:16.299 --> 00:29:21.279
or up the flight of stairs to where a lot of

00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:23.740
the science classrooms were, people were like,

00:29:23.779 --> 00:29:25.980
oh, what's that smell in the hallway? And it

00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:29.660
would just remain there. Just think of the smelliest

00:29:29.660 --> 00:29:32.240
thing. If you think, I don't know, let's say,

00:29:32.700 --> 00:29:35.339
somebody house smells or they don't take a shower

00:29:35.339 --> 00:29:42.380
well this was beyond that uh yeah it was gross

00:29:42.380 --> 00:29:45.119
but it was cool that well and i can never eat

00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.700
cheetos ever again that sounds pretty gross yeah

00:29:49.700 --> 00:29:55.380
um yeah it so yeah the well could go a lot of

00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:57.460
directions with that in terms of kind of how

00:29:57.460 --> 00:30:00.680
how maybe burnt or decomposing flesh smells but

00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.579
i'll table that as well to not gross people out

00:30:03.579 --> 00:30:05.740
further, but you bring up an interesting point

00:30:05.740 --> 00:30:08.500
about Cheetos and that, you know, if you, if

00:30:08.500 --> 00:30:10.380
you look at the ingredients on a bag of Cheetos,

00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:13.619
I mean, it's, it's like, I don't know the actual

00:30:13.619 --> 00:30:16.319
number, but call it 30 or 50 ingredients long.

00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.660
And most of those are some version of a processed

00:30:19.660 --> 00:30:21.960
or an ultra processed molecule or substance.

00:30:22.660 --> 00:30:26.799
Right. Well, they're back, back to, you know,

00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:28.359
kind of doctors being in insurance companies,

00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:31.990
you know, Frito -Lay or whoever owns. Cheetos

00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:34.450
or Fritos, all the above. Maybe it's the same

00:30:34.450 --> 00:30:38.710
company. They hire these scientists to actually

00:30:38.710 --> 00:30:43.670
engineer food to taste better and to have palatable

00:30:43.670 --> 00:30:49.210
texture and to appeal to us. So people tend to

00:30:49.210 --> 00:30:51.269
gravitate towards bright colors because that's

00:30:51.269 --> 00:30:54.309
just how our visual cortexes are designed to

00:30:54.309 --> 00:30:57.029
be attracted to bright items or things like this.

00:30:57.450 --> 00:31:00.250
Our brain likes different textures, so crunchy.

00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:04.579
And maybe savory or salty or spicy. So these

00:31:04.579 --> 00:31:07.180
food companies spend a great deal of time, energy

00:31:07.180 --> 00:31:11.920
and money on making these processed foods create

00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.519
this experience that causes your brain to crave

00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.740
more and more of it so that you're sort of subconsciously

00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:22.140
addicted to them. And, you know, to your point,

00:31:22.180 --> 00:31:24.220
when you sort of melt all the fat off and you

00:31:24.220 --> 00:31:26.000
see what's left and there's this horrible smell

00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.500
and there's this disgusting looking thing in

00:31:27.500 --> 00:31:29.960
front of you, that's what you're putting in your

00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:32.880
body. And there's certainly some emerging data

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.200
that people who consume ultra -processed foods

00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:38.420
have shorter lifespans. They have a much higher

00:31:38.420 --> 00:31:41.720
percentage or degree of chronic diseases. And

00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.019
again, they are more likely to end up with these

00:31:44.019 --> 00:31:46.299
conditions like dementia and strokes that I mentioned

00:31:46.299 --> 00:31:50.059
earlier compared with people who just eat a whole

00:31:50.059 --> 00:31:52.440
food, unprocessed diet. which is what we're just

00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.220
designed to eat. So I think you're probably doing

00:31:56.220 --> 00:31:59.019
everyone a favor by sharing how gross the Cheeto

00:31:59.019 --> 00:32:02.279
experience is, because that is certainly not

00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.720
something that we should be consuming, if ever,

00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:10.319
on a regular basis. Yeah. To be honest, I used

00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:14.700
to eat a lot of different Cheetos growing up,

00:32:14.740 --> 00:32:21.349
but I stopped a long time ago. I mean... I occasionally

00:32:21.349 --> 00:32:24.230
have a bag of pretzels. I mean, the little small

00:32:24.230 --> 00:32:26.809
ones. I mean, I get they're high in sodium, but

00:32:26.809 --> 00:32:29.029
it's not like I have them every single day. It's

00:32:29.029 --> 00:32:32.609
like, okay, I was at the beach. I was wanting

00:32:32.609 --> 00:32:37.650
something with my sandwich. Sure. I mean, again,

00:32:37.769 --> 00:32:40.549
I think this is a kind of a progress over perfection

00:32:40.549 --> 00:32:43.690
situation, you know, where if for anybody in

00:32:43.690 --> 00:32:45.450
your audience, you know, if you are somebody

00:32:45.450 --> 00:32:49.289
who leans on or consumes processed foods regularly,

00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.099
I just, I have a plan, you know what I mean?

00:32:52.099 --> 00:32:55.460
And eliminate one thing at a time and, or even

00:32:55.460 --> 00:32:57.420
better yet, you know, when you go to the store,

00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.200
think about what you're shopping for, because

00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.160
if something doesn't end up at your house or

00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.220
at home, it's very difficult to eat it. It takes

00:33:05.220 --> 00:33:08.359
a lot of resistance, or at least a lot more steps

00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:11.299
to have to go get in the car, drive to the store,

00:33:11.380 --> 00:33:15.220
go buy the thing that you're craving. And I suppose

00:33:15.220 --> 00:33:17.759
we've maybe done ourselves a disservice with

00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.680
instant food delivery services. I mean, whether

00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.119
it's Uber Eats or DoorDash or Picka Service,

00:33:23.619 --> 00:33:27.200
even Walmart and different grocery stores have

00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.500
instant services where they can still drop things

00:33:29.500 --> 00:33:31.940
off at the door. So that resistance has lowered

00:33:31.940 --> 00:33:35.279
some. But even still, if you are intentional

00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.920
about what you buy and what you bring home. and

00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:40.940
you leave it in a visible place. And one of my

00:33:40.940 --> 00:33:43.380
favorite examples of this is, rather than having

00:33:43.380 --> 00:33:45.339
the bag of Cheetos on the counter in the kitchen,

00:33:45.500 --> 00:33:50.519
if you have fresh fruit, say an apple or an orange,

00:33:50.619 --> 00:33:53.240
or maybe you open the fridge and instead of,

00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.640
I don't know, candy or cookies or something,

00:33:55.819 --> 00:33:59.279
you have vegetable sticks and maybe some sort

00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.599
of a healthy protein, that's what you're going

00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.940
to eat because that's what's there. And back

00:34:04.940 --> 00:34:07.119
to that kind of neuroplastic feature of your

00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.159
brain where your brain rewires itself based on

00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.340
the experiences that you deliver. Most people,

00:34:13.380 --> 00:34:15.519
when they get over that initial craving or that

00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.059
urge to continue to consume processed foods,

00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.239
when you start to eat a whole food diet and you're

00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.000
giving your body the appropriate micronutrients,

00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:26.739
which are the little kind of microscopic vitamins

00:34:26.739 --> 00:34:29.619
and minerals that actually help run the cellular

00:34:29.619 --> 00:34:31.420
machinery of your body and all the enzymatic

00:34:31.420 --> 00:34:33.690
reactions that we need to be healthy. And then

00:34:33.690 --> 00:34:35.329
the macronutrients, which are like the building

00:34:35.329 --> 00:34:37.409
blocks and that give us the energy to do the

00:34:37.409 --> 00:34:39.110
work in the first place. When you're putting

00:34:39.110 --> 00:34:41.269
the right fuel in your body that you're designed

00:34:41.269 --> 00:34:45.610
to actually consume, I mean, people feel a thousand

00:34:45.610 --> 00:34:49.590
times better. I've watched inflammation disappear.

00:34:50.250 --> 00:34:51.750
I've watched people that have struggled to lose

00:34:51.750 --> 00:34:54.230
weight their whole life. The pounds melt off

00:34:54.230 --> 00:34:57.409
like a Cheeto fat. They build muscle. They want

00:34:57.409 --> 00:34:59.590
to go to the gym. They sleep better. I mean,

00:34:59.610 --> 00:35:02.670
it's amazing what appropriate nutrition does

00:35:02.670 --> 00:35:05.849
for people. I mean, it really is striking. And

00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:08.250
it's crazy to me that we live in a world where

00:35:08.250 --> 00:35:12.929
the norm is to just have a box of, you know.

00:35:13.469 --> 00:35:17.409
Cheetos, Fritos, a box of cookies. When you actually

00:35:17.409 --> 00:35:19.010
look at what's on the packaging, it's like, oh

00:35:19.010 --> 00:35:24.050
my gosh, what are we consuming? Honestly, and

00:35:24.050 --> 00:35:27.570
this is not a sponsorship for this company, but

00:35:27.570 --> 00:35:30.789
honestly, if you don't really have any time to

00:35:30.789 --> 00:35:32.710
cook, you don't really want to go to the grocery

00:35:32.710 --> 00:35:37.750
store a lot because pretty much if you add it

00:35:37.750 --> 00:35:42.239
all up and like your grocery bill on a weekly

00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:48.099
basis or monthly basis, you probably could do

00:35:48.099 --> 00:35:52.199
like HelloFresh. I mean, even if you don't want

00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.460
to do the cooking part of it, you could, like

00:35:54.460 --> 00:35:59.340
they have prepared meals now. And I mean, everything

00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:02.500
is not, it's not even frozen meals. It's already

00:36:02.500 --> 00:36:07.099
cooked for you. They put it in a box with ice

00:36:07.099 --> 00:36:10.500
around it. So, you know, fresh is not like, Oh,

00:36:10.500 --> 00:36:13.219
yeah, it's frozen from the grocery store, and

00:36:13.219 --> 00:36:17.260
you have all the additives and whatnot. Mm -hmm.

00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:21.239
I looked down. I looked like either HelloFresh

00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:27.239
or HomeChef or whatever. I mean, yeah, it can

00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.719
look pricey at first, but if you think about

00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.000
going to a grocery store these days with, let's

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.699
say if you have a family of, I don't know, two

00:36:36.699 --> 00:36:41.230
or three, And it could be like anywhere at $300,

00:36:41.590 --> 00:36:45.829
$400, $500 something dollars. Well, gee, what

00:36:45.829 --> 00:36:48.849
if you got a couple of those meals? You don't

00:36:48.849 --> 00:36:52.170
have to make anything. Save yourself time. Save

00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:57.070
yourself gas. Again, I'm not saying go do it.

00:36:57.130 --> 00:37:01.650
I'm just saying if you're like me, I'm like,

00:37:01.769 --> 00:37:04.489
okay, you know, I go to karate three to four

00:37:04.489 --> 00:37:07.840
times a week. I run my business. If I'm going

00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.719
to do any cooking, I'm probably going to do it

00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.139
on the weekend. I'm not going to go do it during

00:37:12.139 --> 00:37:15.179
the week. And I'm also in college, so it's like,

00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:20.340
yeah, what am I going to cook? Yeah, some of

00:37:20.340 --> 00:37:22.000
my friends said, well, you could cook everything

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.340
on the weekend. Oh, yeah, I'm going to make at

00:37:24.340 --> 00:37:27.639
least three things on the weekend, make a big,

00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:33.619
huge mess, and package it all up. And yeah, realistically,

00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:38.219
how realistic is that going to be for me? None.

00:37:38.219 --> 00:37:42.360
Because the free time I want to have and the

00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.039
only time I have literally is on the weekends.

00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.179
You think I'm going to cook? Not at all. Right.

00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.019
Yeah. I mean, I think you bring up a great point

00:37:51.019 --> 00:37:54.059
in that having a meal delivery service provides

00:37:54.059 --> 00:37:56.719
a great convenience. And again, it's back to

00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.599
lowering that resistance for people. So rather

00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.900
than having to, like you said, get in the car,

00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.480
burn the gas, drive to the store, buy the things,

00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.769
come back. unpackage, chop up, mix, cook, prepare,

00:38:08.909 --> 00:38:12.530
and then eat. It's a lot of steps. And that's,

00:38:12.530 --> 00:38:13.869
you know, just to have something show up at your

00:38:13.869 --> 00:38:17.230
door is incredibly convenient. I guess I would

00:38:17.230 --> 00:38:19.610
just encourage you and your listeners in particular

00:38:19.610 --> 00:38:24.409
to vet whatever the source is. So meaning, you

00:38:24.409 --> 00:38:27.329
know, I don't, HelloFresh versus any of the other

00:38:27.329 --> 00:38:29.809
companies, I've not vetted any of these. I'm

00:38:29.809 --> 00:38:31.590
aware of them. I'm just not, I haven't used them

00:38:31.590 --> 00:38:35.050
as a service. Blue Apron, that's another one

00:38:35.050 --> 00:38:37.969
I've heard of. But anyway, in either case, make

00:38:37.969 --> 00:38:40.449
sure that you know, again, what you're getting

00:38:40.449 --> 00:38:42.750
and what you're putting in your body. Because

00:38:42.750 --> 00:38:46.309
if you can't verify the source of a product and

00:38:46.309 --> 00:38:48.869
you don't know that it's truly organic, that

00:38:48.869 --> 00:38:50.989
it's in line with whatever your dietary needs

00:38:50.989 --> 00:38:54.050
or considerations are, that can potentially cause

00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:57.329
problems. And again, depending on everyone's

00:38:57.329 --> 00:38:59.650
budget and where they live and their access to

00:38:59.650 --> 00:39:04.139
quality nutrition, The cost of a service like

00:39:04.139 --> 00:39:07.820
that can be prohibitive for some people. So again,

00:39:07.900 --> 00:39:10.119
depending on where you live, there are local

00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:12.780
farmers markets where people, you can verify

00:39:12.780 --> 00:39:15.380
that farmers are actually organically harvesting

00:39:15.380 --> 00:39:18.579
their crops. And so you're buying direct rather

00:39:18.579 --> 00:39:21.119
than having to pay for shipping and to buy through

00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.960
a store or something like that. So there are

00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.960
economical ways that you can make sure that you're

00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.699
getting quality food that may be, again, more

00:39:30.699 --> 00:39:33.719
affordable, maybe minus some of the convenience.

00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.239
But again, the delivery services, I'm sure they've

00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.239
made it priced competitively enough for the right

00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:41.980
people that it works or else they wouldn't have

00:39:41.980 --> 00:39:45.139
a business model. yeah and like i said to everybody

00:39:45.139 --> 00:39:47.900
listening i'm not like telling you go do it and

00:39:47.900 --> 00:39:51.980
i'm just saying just like if it makes sense make

00:39:51.980 --> 00:39:56.079
sense and i mean i used to get the frozen meals

00:39:56.079 --> 00:40:00.320
from uh on the grocery store and then when i

00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.199
found out there's so many additive ingredients

00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.719
it's like oh what's this word and when i looked

00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:06.920
it up and i mean i'm not even gonna give you

00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:08.820
an example of the word i looked up and i was

00:40:08.820 --> 00:40:15.239
like oh that's what that is I mean, I promise

00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.360
I'm not going to gross everyone out again. But

00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:19.659
I mean, when I looked at it, it was like, oh,

00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.579
you know, sometimes it's not nice to look at

00:40:22.579 --> 00:40:26.440
things on Google. This is like, this is just,

00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:31.099
oh. And I think one time when I did that, I even

00:40:31.099 --> 00:40:33.000
threw it up in the back of my mouth a little

00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:37.780
bit. It's like, yep, I'm done. Yeah, I cringe

00:40:37.780 --> 00:40:40.920
when I think about my... my lack of knowledge

00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:43.960
of nutrition when I was younger. I'll never forget

00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.199
when I was in high school, I took advanced placement

00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.360
biology. So I always enjoyed science, which is

00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:51.800
again, part of what got me into medical school.

00:40:51.900 --> 00:40:55.760
But I had AP bio third period, and we had this

00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.780
small break in between first and second period.

00:40:58.039 --> 00:40:59.820
And I'd always go to the same vending machine

00:40:59.820 --> 00:41:02.340
in my high school, and I would buy a Mountain

00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:05.579
Dew Code Red and this big Texas cinnamon bun,

00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:09.219
which had like the absolute worst combination

00:41:09.219 --> 00:41:12.639
of sugar and food coloring and processed chemicals

00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.320
that you could possibly imagine. So God knows

00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:17.880
what I was doing to my body. But anyway, I'd

00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.320
knock all this stuff back and then I couldn't

00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.760
stay awake in class because, you know, my glucose

00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.400
would probably spike to who knows what. And then

00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:27.199
I would have this, this massive insulin release.

00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:31.219
And so I just, I'd tank. I'd fall asleep in class

00:41:31.219 --> 00:41:35.019
and have no clue why. Now, thankfully I was.

00:41:35.630 --> 00:41:37.070
competitive rower in high school. I was very

00:41:37.070 --> 00:41:40.030
active, so the calories were gone by the end

00:41:40.030 --> 00:41:42.849
of the day, but I just think of the actual quality

00:41:42.849 --> 00:41:44.409
of some of that stuff. I'm like, oh my God, what

00:41:44.409 --> 00:41:48.449
was I doing to myself? And look, everyone, I

00:41:48.449 --> 00:41:52.610
still have the occasional ice cream here and

00:41:52.610 --> 00:41:55.650
there. Not much from, not anything from the store.

00:41:58.530 --> 00:42:01.710
Rarely from the store and rarely from an ice

00:42:01.710 --> 00:42:06.550
cream parlor. I mean, I like dessert, but if

00:42:06.550 --> 00:42:08.630
I'm going to have something, it has to be something

00:42:08.630 --> 00:42:12.030
I can't get easily. Yeah, of course. I mean,

00:42:12.070 --> 00:42:14.309
and again, back to what I was saying about progress

00:42:14.309 --> 00:42:17.809
over perfection. I think it's okay to allow yourself

00:42:17.809 --> 00:42:20.170
to have a treat every now and then to celebrate

00:42:20.170 --> 00:42:23.730
doing well. But this should be the vast majority

00:42:23.730 --> 00:42:27.570
of what anybody focuses on, again, for their

00:42:27.570 --> 00:42:30.239
nutrition. which again impacts your performance.

00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.320
I mean, like me with my Mountain Dew and my big

00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.500
Texas cinnamon bun or whatever it was, honey

00:42:36.500 --> 00:42:40.079
bun, not a great performance enhancer as it turns

00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:45.260
out. No, yeah, but if you were to have a bowl

00:42:45.260 --> 00:42:50.199
of like oats or maybe Greek yogurt. and a quality

00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.460
fruit or some fiber, I mean, that can really

00:42:52.460 --> 00:42:55.019
provide sustained energy for a period of time.

00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.679
You know, healthy fats, I mean, like a piece

00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.739
of salmon or, you know, have an egg that's got

00:42:59.739 --> 00:43:02.340
some protein. I mean, there's so many better

00:43:02.340 --> 00:43:04.820
choices that can appropriately fuel your body

00:43:04.820 --> 00:43:07.599
to help you with performance at your job or if

00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.500
you're a student or like you, going to school

00:43:09.500 --> 00:43:11.440
and running a business and going to karate and

00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:15.019
being physically active. And again, I mean, you

00:43:15.019 --> 00:43:17.820
know, at your age, maybe mine, we tend to think

00:43:17.820 --> 00:43:21.480
about these things less. But the process of aging

00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.500
starts the moment you are born. Actually, you

00:43:24.500 --> 00:43:26.119
could argue that it starts before we're born.

00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.300
Once we start forming as a little, you know,

00:43:28.300 --> 00:43:31.539
kind of fetus or blastocyst or whatever stage

00:43:31.539 --> 00:43:35.179
we want to talk about. But we age the moment

00:43:35.179 --> 00:43:39.599
we are created. And there are things that speed

00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:42.219
that up and there are things that slow that down.

00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.340
And certainly eating processed and ultra -processed

00:43:45.340 --> 00:43:48.789
foods, not being physically active. dealing with

00:43:48.789 --> 00:43:52.010
increased levels of stress, not sleeping well,

00:43:52.090 --> 00:43:53.530
not eating the right stuff, so on and so forth.

00:43:53.630 --> 00:43:57.190
Those all accelerate premature aging in the body.

00:43:57.610 --> 00:44:00.389
And it's not always visible, which is really

00:44:00.389 --> 00:44:03.570
a funny thing to think about because these mechanisms

00:44:03.570 --> 00:44:05.969
take place within our cells and we can't see

00:44:05.969 --> 00:44:09.170
that because it's microscopic. And it's only

00:44:09.170 --> 00:44:11.230
until we hit a threshold where a new symptom

00:44:11.230 --> 00:44:14.010
shows up, you know, where an organ system starts

00:44:14.010 --> 00:44:16.750
to fail or God forbid a tumor grows or whatever

00:44:16.750 --> 00:44:19.510
happens that... that this stuff starts to go

00:44:19.510 --> 00:44:23.329
haywire. And at that point, it's not that things

00:44:23.329 --> 00:44:26.449
are irreversible, but it's way easier to maintain

00:44:26.449 --> 00:44:29.070
a healthy system while it's still operating at

00:44:29.070 --> 00:44:32.670
top function than to try to catch it once the

00:44:32.670 --> 00:44:34.730
wheels have come off the wagon, so to speak.

00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:40.869
So I was curious, and I was curious about this.

00:44:43.260 --> 00:44:45.840
I've heard some people say that you should not

00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:51.760
eat while watching TV or reading because then

00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:55.460
your brain signals like, oh, I want to keep eating

00:44:55.460 --> 00:44:57.679
and whatnot. What is your thoughts about that?

00:44:58.900 --> 00:45:02.519
Well, I think it's less about eating during a

00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:06.679
certain activity and more about eating, being

00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.579
intentional about what you eat, how much you

00:45:09.579 --> 00:45:11.679
eat, and then when. And the reason I say that

00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.059
is that if you are eating, if you're consuming

00:45:14.059 --> 00:45:18.239
a whole food diet, it is very difficult to overeat.

00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:20.519
And what I mean by that is that say you have

00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:24.239
like take my lunch today was a mixed salad that

00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:28.480
has all kinds of mixed greens, peppers, tomatoes,

00:45:29.019 --> 00:45:34.860
red onion, avocado, pistachios, broccoli, sprouts.

00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.079
I mean, it's a whole mix of stuff in there. And

00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.099
then I put some fresh organic olive oil because

00:45:40.099 --> 00:45:42.280
actually there's some evidence that that lowers

00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.139
your risk of dementia and has some healthy polyphenols

00:45:45.139 --> 00:45:49.119
in there that help as antioxidants. So when I

00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:51.320
eat that and then maybe I'll do like a bowl of

00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.059
Greek yogurt for a little extra protein after,

00:45:53.260 --> 00:45:57.760
like I am full for hours. And it is very difficult

00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.480
for me to want to consume anything after because

00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.039
when we look at back to these things I was saying

00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:06.039
that accelerate or slow down aging, those are

00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.519
called the hallmarks of aging. And one of the

00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:11.219
hallmarks of aging is a deregulated nutrient

00:46:11.219 --> 00:46:14.460
sensing system. And if you can't appropriately

00:46:14.460 --> 00:46:17.039
sense nutrients coming into your body, or you

00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:18.980
don't have adequate fiber to help your gut feel

00:46:18.980 --> 00:46:22.179
full, you're actually not getting the appropriate

00:46:22.179 --> 00:46:25.159
signals from your brain, from your gut, that

00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:29.019
you've actually consumed enough. You know, if

00:46:29.019 --> 00:46:31.940
you crack open a tin of Oreo and 10 or whatever,

00:46:32.019 --> 00:46:35.019
a tray of Oreo, excuse me, you know, or maybe

00:46:35.019 --> 00:46:36.659
a tin of Pringles. There we go. There's a tin

00:46:36.659 --> 00:46:38.719
can or something, the little tennis ball looking

00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.000
thing that they come in. You can plow through

00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:44.059
those in a hurry because they are very calorically

00:46:44.059 --> 00:46:47.420
dense, but they're nutrient poor. And so your

00:46:47.420 --> 00:46:50.059
body's not getting the feedback to say, hey,

00:46:50.179 --> 00:46:53.280
I've had enough calories or I've had enough stuff.

00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.639
And very quickly you've overeaten. And now you've

00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:58.909
got this problem where. Your body just thinks,

00:46:58.969 --> 00:47:01.309
all right, well, we got lucky and we got more

00:47:01.309 --> 00:47:03.369
calories than we need. We're going to store that

00:47:03.369 --> 00:47:06.650
for a rainy day, which was a great survival system,

00:47:06.750 --> 00:47:08.710
you know, back when we were hunter -gatherers.

00:47:08.969 --> 00:47:12.690
And, you know, maybe you came upon a rabbit or

00:47:12.690 --> 00:47:15.329
maybe a deer and, you know, could eat what you

00:47:15.329 --> 00:47:17.829
could, right, while it was there until you had

00:47:17.829 --> 00:47:19.929
to walk another couple days to go find food again.

00:47:20.630 --> 00:47:23.570
So, you know, our ancestors regularly went days

00:47:23.570 --> 00:47:26.309
without a time, without a meal, but they were

00:47:26.309 --> 00:47:28.510
able to store fat. They could then, their bodies

00:47:28.510 --> 00:47:31.750
could burn as energy. We inherited those mechanisms,

00:47:31.929 --> 00:47:35.409
but we have food abundance like we've never had

00:47:35.409 --> 00:47:38.429
in our culture. So all we have to do is, you

00:47:38.429 --> 00:47:41.570
know, reach for another handful of, you know,

00:47:41.570 --> 00:47:45.250
Cheetos. You don't have to go walk for two days

00:47:45.250 --> 00:47:47.849
to go to Costco or to go find the next thing.

00:47:47.949 --> 00:47:50.769
So, you know, it's... I think it's less about

00:47:50.769 --> 00:47:53.289
are you reading or are you watching TV? It's

00:47:53.289 --> 00:47:56.130
more about are you putting the right thing in

00:47:56.130 --> 00:47:59.610
your body to, again, work with how we're designed

00:47:59.610 --> 00:48:01.989
rather than to work against it. It's really easy

00:48:01.989 --> 00:48:05.409
to overeat and overdo it otherwise. I think it

00:48:05.409 --> 00:48:08.969
also has to do – I think it – and from my point

00:48:08.969 --> 00:48:13.429
of perspective, gee, if I can even talk, holy

00:48:13.429 --> 00:48:18.840
crap. I think from my point of view, I think

00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.559
it's also due to all the food commercials on

00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:26.199
TV and where it was like, oh, where can I get

00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:31.159
that right now? And I think that's why I don't

00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.340
really eat and watch TV at the same time much

00:48:33.340 --> 00:48:36.800
anymore. I mean, if I'm on vacation, yeah, I

00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.159
treat myself. But if it's like, yeah, TV, I'm

00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:44.409
bored. Yeah, sure. So again, back to the... Kind

00:48:44.409 --> 00:48:46.409
of the scientists that make the foods taste healthy,

00:48:46.510 --> 00:48:48.929
or taste healthy goodness, taste good because

00:48:48.929 --> 00:48:51.190
they're very unhealthy processed foods. Bing.

00:48:52.030 --> 00:48:54.570
You know, they hire marketers too to, you know,

00:48:54.570 --> 00:48:57.789
make an experience of whatever it is that they're

00:48:57.789 --> 00:49:01.130
getting people to buy or consume to be enjoyable.

00:49:01.789 --> 00:49:03.550
You know what I mean? Think of the, like, the

00:49:03.550 --> 00:49:05.829
leprechaun on the Lucky Charms commercial and

00:49:05.829 --> 00:49:07.530
how much fun the kids are having eating Lucky

00:49:07.530 --> 00:49:09.489
Charms, right? And it's magically delicious.

00:49:10.489 --> 00:49:13.409
There you go, right? Tony the tiger with their

00:49:13.409 --> 00:49:15.369
great or whatever, whatever we grew up with listening

00:49:15.369 --> 00:49:18.389
to, um, again, that that's, that's marketing

00:49:18.389 --> 00:49:21.070
to try to get kids or people or anybody to buy

00:49:21.070 --> 00:49:23.130
the area, the parents to buy these products because

00:49:23.130 --> 00:49:27.230
it creates a desire to, to consume them. Um,

00:49:27.389 --> 00:49:30.849
which to me is quite frankly, insane. I should

00:49:30.849 --> 00:49:34.050
just be educating people on how to feel our bodies

00:49:34.050 --> 00:49:37.179
and what, you know, what works the best. So I

00:49:37.179 --> 00:49:40.099
was curious, how can people rewire their brain

00:49:40.099 --> 00:49:44.480
to not be tempted so much at certain things like

00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.840
eating unhealthy stuff and replacing it with

00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.039
something else? There are a handful of techniques,

00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.039
Jimmy, and I do get into a lot of these in The

00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.460
Incredible Brain, and I talk about this a lot

00:49:55.460 --> 00:49:57.460
in my company, Transcend Health, with my clients.

00:49:57.619 --> 00:50:00.159
So if anybody's interested, again, our website

00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.760
is transcendhealthgroup .com. I'd be more than

00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:06.619
happy to share more there. But kind of as a broad

00:50:06.619 --> 00:50:10.360
brushstrokes overview, anything you can do to

00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.019
maintain agency or control over your choices

00:50:14.019 --> 00:50:18.739
will help. And what I mean by that is that you

00:50:18.739 --> 00:50:21.659
want to maintain control or regulation over the

00:50:21.659 --> 00:50:24.739
choices you make rather than being a passenger

00:50:24.739 --> 00:50:30.150
and being controlled by the external world. When

00:50:30.150 --> 00:50:33.070
you, again, crack open your Fritos and you reach

00:50:33.070 --> 00:50:35.710
for one and your brain gets the signal that this

00:50:35.710 --> 00:50:38.789
is savory or spicy or crunchy, it's bright, you

00:50:38.789 --> 00:50:41.650
know, whatever. That's this overstimulation that

00:50:41.650 --> 00:50:45.969
creates this feedback loop of reward. And you

00:50:45.969 --> 00:50:47.389
reach for more, you reach for more, reach for

00:50:47.389 --> 00:50:50.369
more. And the more you do that, the more you're

00:50:50.369 --> 00:50:53.650
actually rewiring your brain around anticipating

00:50:53.650 --> 00:50:57.309
that same reward in the future, or at least similar

00:50:57.309 --> 00:51:01.260
rewards. It's very easy to break that cycle with

00:51:01.260 --> 00:51:04.260
a series of interventions. And again, I talk

00:51:04.260 --> 00:51:07.119
about that a lot with my audience about how to

00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:11.719
do this. But I mean, meditation, breath work,

00:51:11.940 --> 00:51:14.840
different types of exercise, quality sleep, choosing

00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.480
the right nutrition, getting around like -minded

00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:19.699
people that do the same thing. There's a whole

00:51:19.699 --> 00:51:23.440
just array of ways we can do this, all of which

00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:26.079
independently can help increase that agency and

00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:31.900
that control. That seems like helpful tips. My

00:51:31.900 --> 00:51:37.719
last few questions for you is, how many people

00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:42.800
do you think realistically want to improve their

00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.260
brains versus, I'll just eat whatever I want

00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:51.539
and go well? That's a good question. I think

00:51:51.539 --> 00:51:56.300
most people don't realize how conditioned we've

00:51:56.300 --> 00:52:00.679
become. to the external or how many people have

00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.960
really lost control of where they are. But I

00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:06.960
think more people are waking up to it. At least

00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:10.880
that's been my observation. And I think, again,

00:52:10.940 --> 00:52:14.380
as the saying goes, you're a reflection of the

00:52:14.380 --> 00:52:17.559
five people you spend the most time around. As

00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:19.340
we start to see more communities and more groups

00:52:19.340 --> 00:52:24.119
of people... wake up and take control and just

00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:26.719
live a healthier, better, more intentional life.

00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.019
That has a very positive contagious effect, you

00:52:30.019 --> 00:52:32.880
know, among different groups of people and sort

00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:35.059
of being able to model behavior after those that

00:52:35.059 --> 00:52:38.400
have actually done it. So I, you know, as far

00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.659
as a percentage of the population, I would say

00:52:40.659 --> 00:52:42.980
probably most people haven't quite gotten there

00:52:42.980 --> 00:52:45.119
yet. At least again, when we look at the statistics

00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:48.039
on metabolic health and weight and blood pressure

00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.320
and all these things. But I'm very optimistic

00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:53.119
that it doesn't take much to turn the tide and

00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:56.219
get us back to where we need to be. I know for

00:52:56.219 --> 00:53:01.960
myself, sorry. I know for myself, one of the

00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:05.860
things I like to do, even if it's something quick,

00:53:06.219 --> 00:53:08.519
well, not like quick, I mean, depending on how

00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:12.900
good you are at it, I like to do word searches.

00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:18.489
And some people might say, word searches jimmy

00:53:18.489 --> 00:53:22.030
i was like how can that be uh good for the brain

00:53:22.030 --> 00:53:24.730
i was like well interesting enough it's like

00:53:24.730 --> 00:53:28.769
when you're looking for words uh diagonally backwards

00:53:28.769 --> 00:53:32.570
forwards uh keeps your brain on your tippy toe

00:53:32.570 --> 00:53:37.190
well metaphorically tippy toes and uh kind of

00:53:37.190 --> 00:53:39.449
helps you think outside of the box like where

00:53:39.449 --> 00:53:44.889
can i find this and ironically i've done a couple

00:53:44.889 --> 00:53:49.409
so far i mean i got a reading app that includes

00:53:49.409 --> 00:53:54.909
it in the app, so I didn't have to download something

00:53:54.909 --> 00:54:02.650
else. Another one, I can't remember the word

00:54:02.650 --> 00:54:06.110
I was going to look for, but just one functional

00:54:06.110 --> 00:54:10.210
app for one thing, and it also includes different

00:54:10.210 --> 00:54:16.760
puzzles, and it's just kind of cool. I like multifunction

00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.480
kind of apps because it's like, oh, wait, if

00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:24.820
I want to do an actual puzzle, I have to download

00:54:24.820 --> 00:54:30.340
another app or make a mess of some room in my

00:54:30.340 --> 00:54:34.219
house to do a puzzle. It's not that I'm lazy,

00:54:34.380 --> 00:54:38.280
but I just like, yeah, you know, I got 20 minutes

00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:42.130
somewhere versus... I have to dump all the pieces.

00:54:42.489 --> 00:54:44.630
Hopefully I don't lose a piece, and hopefully

00:54:44.630 --> 00:54:49.510
my dogs don't eat a piece. Right. The brain likes

00:54:49.510 --> 00:54:52.389
puzzles, and anything that challenges the brain

00:54:52.389 --> 00:54:54.329
or increases what we call the cognitive load,

00:54:54.510 --> 00:54:57.650
the more it preserves function and, again, helps

00:54:57.650 --> 00:55:01.309
maintain a healthy brain from here forward. Yeah.

00:55:01.309 --> 00:55:04.489
So my last question for you is where can people

00:55:04.489 --> 00:55:06.610
follow you, find you, learn more about who you

00:55:06.610 --> 00:55:09.309
are and what you do? And part two to that question,

00:55:09.610 --> 00:55:13.570
ha ha, you think I was going to be done? Where

00:55:13.570 --> 00:55:16.710
can people find your book and buy your book,

00:55:16.889 --> 00:55:20.650
et cetera? Yeah. Well, thanks, Jimmy. So again,

00:55:20.710 --> 00:55:24.869
our website is transcendhealthgroup .com. And

00:55:24.869 --> 00:55:27.349
we can provide that certainly for your show notes.

00:55:27.949 --> 00:55:29.650
If you get there, that'll link you anywhere.

00:55:30.279 --> 00:55:34.480
But the book title is The Incredible Brain. That's

00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:36.039
probably easier to type out. But if you just

00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:39.420
search for that, it's on Amazon, Barnes & Noble.

00:55:39.900 --> 00:55:43.119
Pretty much most bookstores will have it. So

00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.760
that release is September 9th. So we're six days

00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.639
away. Very excited about that. Although maybe

00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:49.159
it should be out by the time this episode is

00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.940
live. Or we are alive. There we go. Yeah, that's

00:55:52.940 --> 00:55:56.480
right. So yeah, The Incredible Brain, you can

00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:59.099
search it. And otherwise, transcendhealthgroup

00:55:59.099 --> 00:56:01.820
.com. That'll link to all of our social media

00:56:01.820 --> 00:56:04.699
and everywhere else. Awesome. I'm definitely

00:56:04.699 --> 00:56:08.159
going to check out that book because, well, let's

00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:13.159
just say, wink, wink, I had some gift card money

00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:16.420
from Barnes & Noble. So I was like, yeah, I'm

00:56:16.420 --> 00:56:19.559
going to go buy that damn book right now. I appreciate

00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:23.340
your support, Jimmy. It's awesome. I mean, seriously,

00:56:23.579 --> 00:56:26.579
I'm going to do it because, I mean, I always

00:56:26.579 --> 00:56:30.199
like to learn new things. It actually depends

00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:33.380
on what the new thing is. I'll give you an example

00:56:33.380 --> 00:56:36.960
real quick. It was this huge, big automation

00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.940
process that I'm making for my business. Well,

00:56:40.019 --> 00:56:42.760
I'll just say I have hit so many different roadblocks.

00:56:42.780 --> 00:56:46.119
It's like, why won't you play them work? That

00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:48.519
just gets annoying after a while because, like,

00:56:48.750 --> 00:56:51.710
Oh, come on, I already figured this crap out.

00:56:51.829 --> 00:56:54.590
This supposed to just been working. But nah.

00:56:55.289 --> 00:57:00.170
But yeah, that's the only thing I get annoyed

00:57:00.170 --> 00:57:02.469
when I have to do the same thing over and over

00:57:02.469 --> 00:57:05.369
again. It's like, if something breaks once in

00:57:05.369 --> 00:57:09.150
a blue moon, it's like, okay, crap happens. But

00:57:09.150 --> 00:57:11.409
when it's the same crap over and over again,

00:57:11.449 --> 00:57:15.760
it's like, hmm, can I give AI the... biggest

00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.579
middle finger that there's possible can. Because

00:57:19.579 --> 00:57:22.940
I'm actually using ChatGPT to help me think outside

00:57:22.940 --> 00:57:26.179
the box on how to do X, Y, and Z. And sometimes

00:57:26.179 --> 00:57:28.239
it gives me really great answers. And sometimes

00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:30.199
it's just like, it gives me the same thing over

00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.039
and over again. It's like, why won't you freaking

00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:36.639
work, you little bastards? But that's my rant.

00:57:36.739 --> 00:57:38.400
But thank you for being a guest on the show.

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And I would love to have you back on in the future.

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Appreciate you, Jimmy. Thank you for having me.

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Well, bye for now. Take care. Thanks for tuning

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in to another episode of the Crazy Fitness Guy

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desk and reminds me, hey, you got to drink water.

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makes me want to drink more water throughout

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