Vegan Without Overwhelm: Gentle Plant‑Based Eating for Sensitive Brains with Ariel Zachow

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Tell me a little bit about yourself. Sure. My

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name is Ariel. I am currently based in New York,

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but I'm sort of working my way to Greece. I'm

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a certified personal trainer. I'm a group fitness

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instructor and a 500 -hour registered yoga teacher.

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I have a small sort of online fitness business,

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and I'm mostly part yoga, part travel. That's

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kind of my whole deal. Yeah, well, I've seen

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a lot of your pictures on Instagram and you make

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me want to go travel. Oh, good. I'm actually

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really happy to hear that. That's kind of the

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goal. Unfortunately, there's nowhere to travel

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to. Oh, I am going stir crazy, like I'm sure

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you can imagine. Yeah, no idea. So what made

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you want to get into health and wellness? So

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when I was younger, I did theater growing up.

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And I loved everything about it. And I loved

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the feeling of inspiration that you got when

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you went to see a show. And I knew that I loved

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having that feeling of being inspired by seeing

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someone perform. And I wanted to be able to give

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that back. to other people. So I moved from California

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where I grew up to New York to pursue musical

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theater. One thing kind of led to another. I

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didn't love the industry. I decided that it wasn't

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for me, but I wanted this. I still had this desire

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to be able to sort of forward that feeling of

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inspiration. And somehow I ended up in health

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and wellness and fitness. And it's a similar

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sort of thing, weirdly. When I teach my classes,

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it's almost like performing, but it's still giving

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back this sort of positive energy and helping

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people to feel good about themselves and to live

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a nice, healthful life. So it kind of checks

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all of the boxes minus the theater part. I used

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to be in health and wellness as well. And then

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I got stuck on a very, very, very hard science

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course in my major. And I wouldn't say I gave

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up. Here's what I literally did. I went to class.

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I got home. I studied. And I still failed. And

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I withdrew from the class. Yeah, sometimes it

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only takes one. So one sort of moment to be like,

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all right, let's shift. Let's go a different

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direction from here. Well, it was like I enjoyed

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all the other classes, like my weightlifting

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class, my nutrition class. My yoga class was

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okay until it got really weird. I had to write

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a four -page paper in my yoga class, which I

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thought was supposed to be relaxing. A four -page

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paper about what? I don't honestly remember.

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I didn't even save it. Huh, that's weird. Well,

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I've never asked any of my students to write

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a paper. Oh, that's good because, oh my goodness.

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Well, and then after that class, I just decided

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to, after the science class, I just, it came.

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It started at like 24 people, then dropped down

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to 12. Oh, wow. And then four other people were

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failing along with me. Oh, no. Yeah, let's just

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say that teacher didn't have a good reputation.

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Premium Podcast link in the show notes. Now let's

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get back to the show. Yes, that's a pretty safe

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assumption to make, I think. I'm not naming any

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names. They know who they are. So what places

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have you traveled around the world? I believe

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I'm at 18 countries right now. I've done North

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America. bunch of Europe and I did a little time

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in the Middle East. I went to Oman and Dubai.

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There wasn't a place that I went that I didn't

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love. I particularly loved Greece, but it was

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close. It's awesome to see cultures and things

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that you don't even really know exist until you

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go and see them. It's been funny to be back now

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because I did, I think I was gone for about five

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months and I did 15 countries in that time. And

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to be back now in the U .S. is interesting because

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it is really different. Things are more stressful

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here, I guess, than traveling around. But I'm

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so glad. It's, well, you know, the whole world

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is kind of, it's a little rough right now. Yeah,

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you could say that again. Exactly. Did you run

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into any, like, kind of bad places around the

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world? You know, the one place that I will not

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go back to, and I'm so sad to say this, is Italy.

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When I was in Rome, I felt very unsafe. traveling

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alone as a female does pose some safety risks

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in general and just traveling. Even in a group,

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you have to be mindful of where you are. But

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I spent a lot of time living alone in New York

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and I didn't live in the best neighborhoods.

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I, at that point, had traveled relatively extensively

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and I know how to hold myself when I'm out traveling

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and when I'm by myself in a major city. But Rome,

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I felt super, super unsafe. And there were a

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couple of times I was approached and I knew that

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I don't know what the intentions were, but they

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weren't great. And I tried to walk away from

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someone at one point and they grabbed onto my

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arm and wouldn't let me leave. And then I've

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since talked to a lot of females who've traveled

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there by themselves and they have a similar story

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where it's just not super safe to travel alone

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to Rome, which is really sad because it was so

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beautiful and the history is incredible. But

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Italy is on my no -go list for. for um future

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travels i don't put it at the top of your list

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don't not go but go with caution go with friends

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for sure yeah that sounds like the movie take

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it all over again oh you can't even tell you

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how many times my dad was like i keep watching

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taken and locked up abroad and i'm like dad please

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i'm gonna be fine i only watch that movie uh

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maybe 20 times and probably quoted that same

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line over and over again. Unfortunately, I can't

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repeat it because it's probably copyrighted.

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Oh, definitely. They'll come for you. And then

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they'll probably take me too. Right. Take him

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for. We don't need any more takings. No, no,

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no. No, there's enough stress in the world right

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now. We don't need to add to it. What do you

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think, out of all the places you went to, where

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is your... Probably my most favorite place. It's

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a tight tie between Athens, Greece and Muscat,

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Oman. They're just both so beautiful and the

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people are so kind and so warm. And so I grew

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up in California. California is always home for

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me. They both felt a bit like California and

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that's something that I really liked. But with

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Greece... I'm a vegan as well. That's part of

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my whole thing. Greece, I found to be very vegan

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friendly, which is sort of surprising based on

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the culture there. But I felt just so at home.

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And when I traveled, I spent a couple of weeks

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in Greece. I left my things there to do two weeks

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around Europe to hit other countries. And then

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I came back to Greece. And after I had done that

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two weeks of traveling around and I flew back

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to Athens when the plane landed, I had this feeling

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of, oh, I'm home. You know, I've landed home.

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And that feeling is just so nice. And I was like,

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all right, well, I'm going to move to Greece.

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And so now I'm moving to Greece. Was it hard

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for you to come back to the U .S.? It. It was

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really weird because I came back right as the

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coronavirus started to get very widespread. So

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I traveled through Manila in the Philippines.

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I was one of like three people not in a mask.

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And this was before it really had even hit the

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U .S. So it was bizarre to do that. I was a little

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your own podcast. And then I came back to live

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with my dad, which is a little step back as an

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adult. It's definitely an adjustment. There are

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major comforts and major benefits to living in

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the US. And I do love the comforts that I get

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here, but it is different. I mean, they're completely

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different worlds. Happy to be back, but also

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ready to leave. I wish I could leave. I'm very

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lucky. I take time to be grateful every day that

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I am able to just leave, just find a new country.

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Abby, nice to go to a new country right now.

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I'm tired of sitting in New Jersey. there's absolutely

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like only 50 of the boardwalk is open and where

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the rides are the uh the owner the owner of the

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whole boardwalk is uh he's charging for people

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to get uh not even get onto the rides yet he's

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starting to charging people to get onto the pier

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with the rides and so i'm not paying if just

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just to browse the rides just to walk and see

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them with my eyes yeah yeah I look at the distance

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from afar. Right. For free. I've been here since

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I was a baby. So yeah, I pretty much know my

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whole way around anyway. Right, right. May I

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get one of those flying drones? I want one of

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those so bad. That would be so cool. Yeah. I'll

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give everybody a digital tour. That's awesome.

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Hand out little screens, little headphones. Over

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here, you see... Oh, wait. It just shut down.

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Here you see another empty ride. Yeah, it's not

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doing anything. He's charging for empty rides

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now. That's so bizarre. And I was reading today

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they've shut down a lot of the part of California

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that I'm from. They started to open back up and

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the governor just said, nope, close it back down.

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So it's weird. And you can't really even listen

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to the CDC either. They get their stuff wrong.

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Right, yeah. They're experts though. Yeah, it's

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such a weird, bizarre time. And it's impossible

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for anybody to plan anything because we... Nobody

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knows where we're going to go from here or what's

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going to happen. And I know myself included,

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a lot of people who teach any form of fitness

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can't teach right now in person. I think I read

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that gyms and yoga studios and dance studios

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and things like that are on the very top of the

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list for highest rate of transmission, which

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makes sense if you're breathing heavily and sweating.

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um it's hard teaching online is great but there's

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uh there's a difference uh to teaching online

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than there is in person and it's you know what

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do you tell your clients like i want you to live

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so please don't come over exactly my my uh sensei

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had to uh when he reopened his uh dojo he had

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to uh he he basically put in all the like new

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vents and everything like kitchen grade bacterial

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suction vents and uh he uh installed something

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else and he's like yeah now everything it's clean

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air and clean everything and and and like I know

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he's doing his best, but right now I'm staying

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on all the zoom classes because I'm down at the

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shore for the summer because my parents are trying

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to sell our other house, just a downsize. And

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yeah, I'm just like, uh, no thanks. I don't want

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to go back yet. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, I think for

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a lot of us teachers and even students, it's,

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you want to. I don't know, you want to stay healthy

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by continuing to work out, but you potentially

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are doing the exact opposite of that by going

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to a class. But it's hard. You miss the friendships

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and the camaraderie that comes with that. And

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it's weird. People have had to shift in ways

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that I don't think anybody was ever anticipating

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was even a possibility for this world. Yeah.

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I know from my karate class on Zoom, it's really

00:16:55.100 --> 00:16:58.059
different because they shut off the microphones

00:16:58.059 --> 00:17:01.620
on our end so no one hears any background noise.

00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:08.900
And like you said, you don't get the camaraderie,

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but you can still hear everything on the other

00:17:11.779 --> 00:17:15.400
side. And so I kind of still feel like I'm...

00:17:15.660 --> 00:17:21.839
there um but i yeah i feel better that i can

00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:25.380
still do it as long as i'm as long as i'm in

00:17:25.380 --> 00:17:29.119
my house and you know he's open up again there's

00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.140
only so many spots per class so right i can't

00:17:32.140 --> 00:17:35.799
just drop in and show up like i used to yeah

00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.799
that's another thing that i've found um and i've

00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:41.759
been teaching online for several years. So I

00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.599
have a relatively extensive background in it,

00:17:44.619 --> 00:17:47.759
but it's weird because I'm shifting now my personal

00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:51.539
training clients online. And there's like this,

00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:56.779
you lose a lot between when you put a screen

00:17:56.779 --> 00:17:59.559
essentially in between you two and to say, okay,

00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:01.579
well now turn to the side, now turn to the back

00:18:01.579 --> 00:18:03.099
and let me see you from this way. Let me see

00:18:03.099 --> 00:18:09.799
you from that way. And it's... There are so many

00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:12.720
ads these days wherever you go. There are ads

00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:16.299
in movie theaters, on TV, on radio, and on billboards.

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00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:54.599
notes. Now let's get back to the show. I'm thankful

00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:56.720
that we live in a time where all of this can

00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.559
migrate online, but it's still weird. It's still

00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:04.000
sort of like this weird parallel universe that

00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:08.109
we're living in. What made you want to go to

00:19:08.109 --> 00:19:12.970
a vegan lifestyle anyway? Several years ago,

00:19:13.109 --> 00:19:16.509
I did this. It was like a three -week health

00:19:16.509 --> 00:19:20.529
cleanse. But I just wanted to try it out, lose

00:19:20.529 --> 00:19:22.829
a little bit of weight. And so we did it. And

00:19:22.829 --> 00:19:26.690
it slowly progresses you from a standard American

00:19:26.690 --> 00:19:29.289
diet to a vegan diet over the course of the three

00:19:29.289 --> 00:19:30.789
weeks. And then you can decide what you do at

00:19:30.789 --> 00:19:32.970
the end of it. So the first time I did it, I

00:19:32.970 --> 00:19:35.930
was like, oh, I don't really need meat. That's

00:19:35.930 --> 00:19:39.269
not something that I require for my diet. So

00:19:39.269 --> 00:19:43.880
I went vegetarian. When I was about 14 years

00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:48.019
old, I had this weird heart thing. I saw a bunch

00:19:48.019 --> 00:19:51.180
of different cardiologists. I've been on different

00:19:51.180 --> 00:19:53.200
kinds of medication for it. I even had heart

00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.539
surgery at one time. And I never got a diagnosis.

00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.779
I never got any sort of direction as to what

00:19:59.779 --> 00:20:02.359
the issue was, what the potential side effects

00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:05.380
were, how to fix it. But I noticed as I started

00:20:05.380 --> 00:20:08.240
to change my diet, when I went vegetarian, the

00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:11.390
issue, the weird... things that were happening

00:20:11.390 --> 00:20:13.950
with my heart diminished pretty significantly.

00:20:14.509 --> 00:20:17.490
And after a little less than a year of being

00:20:17.490 --> 00:20:20.150
vegetarian, I thought, well, it's not that big

00:20:20.150 --> 00:20:22.349
of a jump to go vegan. So let me try that. And

00:20:22.349 --> 00:20:26.869
I went vegan. And now whatever it was, because

00:20:26.869 --> 00:20:30.450
I'd never got an actual diagnosis, it's virtually

00:20:30.450 --> 00:20:34.150
gone. And so it's something that I was eating,

00:20:34.210 --> 00:20:36.369
some animal product that I was consuming was

00:20:36.369 --> 00:20:39.029
causing issues in my body. And when I cut them

00:20:39.029 --> 00:20:42.460
out, it went away. And so it sort of stuck with

00:20:42.460 --> 00:20:45.900
me. And then right about the same time, I started

00:20:45.900 --> 00:20:48.059
to do my yoga teacher training. And there's this

00:20:48.059 --> 00:20:51.079
idea in yoga, it's called Ahimsa, and it translates

00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:54.380
to nonviolence and sort of expands to compassion

00:20:54.380 --> 00:20:56.799
and kindness towards all living creatures. And

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to me, that means vegan. So now I have a vegan

00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:03.569
diet. I don't buy, you know. leather and things

00:21:03.569 --> 00:21:05.490
like that. Even the tattoos I get, I make sure

00:21:05.490 --> 00:21:07.390
that the ink is vegan because that's not always

00:21:07.390 --> 00:21:11.569
vegan. And so it just stuck and it just felt

00:21:11.569 --> 00:21:15.569
natural. And now it's sort of like the basis,

00:21:15.609 --> 00:21:18.230
I guess, for everything I do is this idea of

00:21:18.230 --> 00:21:22.089
a hymn of compassion and kindness. So now here

00:21:22.089 --> 00:21:25.490
I am four or five years later and still going

00:21:25.490 --> 00:21:29.789
strong. I don't think I could do something like

00:21:29.789 --> 00:21:35.140
that. It always seems much harder than you think.

00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:37.039
Like this morning, I actually just posted on

00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:40.640
my Instagram. I had waffles for breakfast with

00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:44.420
vegan eggs and vegan sausage. And the taste is

00:21:44.420 --> 00:21:47.029
different. You can't. eat, you know, a vegan

00:21:47.029 --> 00:21:49.009
alternative to something and expect it to taste

00:21:49.009 --> 00:21:51.930
exactly the same. But it's pretty great. And

00:21:51.930 --> 00:21:56.130
there's so many options. Like I eat cheese every

00:21:56.130 --> 00:22:00.089
day, vegan cheese every day. I don't find that

00:22:00.089 --> 00:22:02.869
I'm lacking for anything. To go from point A

00:22:02.869 --> 00:22:06.609
to point B can seem like a big jump. But I thought

00:22:06.609 --> 00:22:09.099
it was great. I like it. And now I travel for

00:22:09.099 --> 00:22:12.180
vegan food and it's just an excuse to go explore

00:22:12.180 --> 00:22:14.559
the world just to go eat more delicious things.

00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:20.000
Well, that might be a long time before you can

00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.880
go back out again. Well, yeah. Now I'm eating

00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.079
the vegan things in my home and I'll just, you

00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:29.339
know, pretend I'm traveling. You need one of

00:22:29.339 --> 00:22:32.269
those green screens. You know what? I feel like

00:22:32.269 --> 00:22:34.089
that would be a great investment for my life.

00:22:34.509 --> 00:22:37.690
It's really hard to run a travel blog when no

00:22:37.690 --> 00:22:41.289
one's allowed to leave their house. Green screen,

00:22:41.430 --> 00:22:55.289
here we come. How many climbs do you have for

00:22:55.289 --> 00:22:59.109
your personal training? That is a little bit

00:22:59.109 --> 00:23:01.809
up in the air right now. Before I started to

00:23:01.809 --> 00:23:05.930
travel, I had about five. Primarily, I do group

00:23:05.930 --> 00:23:11.470
trainings, but most of my clientele is older.

00:23:11.609 --> 00:23:15.269
They're 60 and above. to say to them, we're going

00:23:15.269 --> 00:23:18.470
to train on the internet, they're like, that's

00:23:18.470 --> 00:23:22.349
not a thing. So it's a little rough to get them

00:23:22.349 --> 00:23:25.470
transitioned. But as I travel, as I'm sort of

00:23:25.470 --> 00:23:29.170
reorganizing my life, I'm shifting more towards

00:23:29.170 --> 00:23:33.650
the podcast that I run and doing. a little more

00:23:33.650 --> 00:23:38.190
one -on -one yoga therapy based things. So slowly

00:23:38.190 --> 00:23:40.250
personal training is sort of, you know, pushing

00:23:40.250 --> 00:23:43.789
off for me. I just find with my client base,

00:23:43.970 --> 00:23:48.490
it's not as seamless as I want it to be to pull

00:23:48.490 --> 00:23:51.589
it online. So, you know, as a business person,

00:23:51.690 --> 00:23:55.109
you have to shift and decide where your time

00:23:55.109 --> 00:23:57.849
is better spent. And so now I'm sort of exploring

00:23:57.849 --> 00:24:01.619
the yoga therapy side of it. Um, but I'm still

00:24:01.619 --> 00:24:04.180
in schooling for that. So that's, uh, you know,

00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.880
a little slower than I want, but you make everything

00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:12.519
look so easy though. I, uh, well, it's a farce.

00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:18.119
It's not true, but thank you. It's, uh, I think

00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.400
the, the best part about it. And I do have to

00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:24.599
say, I'm in a very, uh, I'm definitely in a place

00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:28.509
of privilege to be able to, um, to experiment

00:24:28.509 --> 00:24:31.670
a lot with my business and to have the ability

00:24:31.670 --> 00:24:34.690
to travel and to afford to be able to, you know,

00:24:34.690 --> 00:24:38.329
sort of find my footing as an entrepreneur. But

00:24:38.329 --> 00:24:41.130
it's fun. My dad always said when we were young

00:24:41.130 --> 00:24:43.680
to go out and fail. And I always thought, what

00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:47.019
a weird thing for a parent to say to a kid. You

00:24:47.019 --> 00:24:49.740
would think that you would want your child to

00:24:49.740 --> 00:24:52.519
succeed. And as time went on and as I got older,

00:24:52.619 --> 00:24:56.160
I started to realize that success and learning

00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.480
come from failure. And if you never, ever fail,

00:24:59.700 --> 00:25:03.690
you're not. really learning anything. So I've

00:25:03.690 --> 00:25:07.089
made it my goal to try as many things as I possibly

00:25:07.089 --> 00:25:10.410
can. And if they fail, it's almost a cause for

00:25:10.410 --> 00:25:13.369
celebration because I've learned all of the reasons

00:25:13.369 --> 00:25:16.289
why that failed and what needs to change to move

00:25:16.289 --> 00:25:20.250
forward. So it's, I mean, maybe it comes off

00:25:20.250 --> 00:25:23.369
as looking easy, but it's really, it's fun for

00:25:23.369 --> 00:25:25.569
me. And I'm lucky that I get to see a bunch of

00:25:25.569 --> 00:25:29.430
failures as fun. I think it's sort of a valuable.

00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.160
life lesson to be able to say, all right, well,

00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.180
that was a total disaster, but here's what I

00:25:34.180 --> 00:25:35.500
learned. And let's, you know, well, we'll try

00:25:35.500 --> 00:25:36.920
this next thing. Maybe that'll work. Maybe not.

00:25:37.940 --> 00:25:40.720
Okay. I think you will need to, I think we, you

00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.759
need to give, I think I'm going to have to have

00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:48.180
you back on this podcast. It took a long time.

00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:50.900
It, I spent my entire childhood thinking my dad

00:25:50.900 --> 00:25:53.839
hated me because he wanted me to fail, but you

00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:58.599
start to. It's really like a total mindset shift

00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:03.619
to just, it's just this little flip of a switch.

00:26:03.819 --> 00:26:07.400
And when you get it figured out, it's freeing

00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.779
and it's super liberating. It's weird, though.

00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.140
It's unusual. It's not like a normal thought

00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:16.700
pattern to be like, oh, well, this was a huge

00:26:16.700 --> 00:26:19.720
disaster. Cool. What can I learn from it? Sometimes

00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.900
you even need to take a day and just be sad that

00:26:22.900 --> 00:26:25.799
something didn't work or disappointed that what

00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.960
you thought was going to be your success is not.

00:26:28.779 --> 00:26:32.119
But to get to that point of, okay, well, what

00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.720
are my takeaways? What are my lessons learned

00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:38.529
here? It's really life changing and you can apply

00:26:38.529 --> 00:26:40.910
it to every part of your life. It doesn't have

00:26:40.910 --> 00:26:43.170
to be, you know, business specifically. It can

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00:28:06.690 --> 00:28:09.670
learn from those first eight? A ton, right? So

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the ninth time that you did it, you're so far

00:28:12.549 --> 00:28:15.529
ahead of the game because you have that history

00:28:15.529 --> 00:28:19.990
of failure and learning. Well, I knew one thing

00:28:19.990 --> 00:28:22.730
that I will never use WordPress ever again. Oh,

00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:26.390
do not. Nope. Everybody run from WordPress. I'm

00:28:26.390 --> 00:28:33.630
on it and I want to rip my hair out. There are

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so many ads these days, wherever you go, there

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are ads in movie theaters on TV, on radio and

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podcast link in the show notes. Now let's get

00:29:12.930 --> 00:29:23.190
back to the show. So why did you pick compassion

00:29:23.190 --> 00:29:26.809
as my compass as your business name? It goes

00:29:26.809 --> 00:29:30.849
back directly to the practice of ahimsa, compassion

00:29:30.849 --> 00:29:36.970
and kindness. So one of my tattoos is the Sanskrit

00:29:36.970 --> 00:29:44.289
word. And it just, because it was so, so intertwined

00:29:44.289 --> 00:29:49.190
with my set of morals. I use Ahimsa as my moral

00:29:49.190 --> 00:29:51.990
compass. So smush it all together. You get compassion

00:29:51.990 --> 00:29:56.490
as my compass, which is a mouthful. I realized

00:29:56.490 --> 00:29:59.950
for a business name, but there's only so many

00:29:59.950 --> 00:30:02.410
websites available. So I hadn't slim pickings.

00:30:03.390 --> 00:30:07.549
Is that too long? How long is that? It's a, it

00:30:07.549 --> 00:30:11.559
takes a minute to write out for sure. Oh, well,

00:30:11.619 --> 00:30:15.240
even somebody said that about Crazy Fitness Guy

00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.839
and yet here I am. No, I think it's good because

00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.220
yours is super memorable and it's not 12 ,000

00:30:22.220 --> 00:30:25.920
letters long, which is great. Just out of curiosity,

00:30:26.259 --> 00:30:30.640
how many, overall, how many clients do you say

00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:35.960
you would have in total? Presently less than

00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:40.160
10. It's a super bizarre time for my business

00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:45.079
with the travel and the relocation. Getting time

00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.900
zones to line up when I was traveling was an

00:30:48.900 --> 00:30:54.170
absolute nightmare. freshly on a new platform

00:30:54.170 --> 00:30:59.109
called moxie m -o -x -i -e um and it's uh it's

00:30:59.109 --> 00:31:01.130
a way to stream classes essentially and all of

00:31:01.130 --> 00:31:04.589
the classes are listed publicly um which is a

00:31:04.589 --> 00:31:09.390
new venture for me um so with that and i'm only

00:31:09.390 --> 00:31:11.549
a week in and hasn't been very long at all um

00:31:11.549 --> 00:31:16.279
but it's pulling in new clients for every class,

00:31:16.339 --> 00:31:18.579
only about one or two new clients per class.

00:31:18.940 --> 00:31:22.079
But it's definitely interesting. I highly recommend

00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.200
taking Moxie. A lot of the classes are donation

00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.000
-based or free, so you don't have to pay for

00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.019
them. Less great for an instructor, more great

00:31:30.019 --> 00:31:35.029
for the student. But it's... It's a weird limbo

00:31:35.029 --> 00:31:38.670
time for me. I'm definitely doing not specifically

00:31:38.670 --> 00:31:44.130
a rebrand, but a total directional change. Because

00:31:44.130 --> 00:31:48.490
to live in Europe and to have a client base mostly

00:31:48.490 --> 00:31:53.289
in the US, even between coasts is difficult.

00:31:53.490 --> 00:31:56.049
A three -hour time difference for a morning class

00:31:56.049 --> 00:32:00.309
is a big deal. So less than 10 now, hopefully

00:32:00.309 --> 00:32:06.819
a million. by next year. Well, may I'll get a

00:32:06.819 --> 00:32:11.420
million subscribers. That'd be nice. Then you

00:32:11.420 --> 00:32:13.480
just send them over to my Moxie page and we'll,

00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:19.839
we'll all hang out. Is it a user -friendly platform?

00:32:20.500 --> 00:32:23.980
I think so. Don't ask my mom because she had

00:32:23.980 --> 00:32:25.940
a really hard time. She was really cranky about

00:32:25.940 --> 00:32:31.039
it. For the parents. Well, I know I wasn't going

00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:36.259
to say that to her, but I implied it. I think

00:32:36.259 --> 00:32:39.920
it's great. It's interactive, but it sort of

00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.799
controls the volume for you. I previously was

00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.299
teaching on Zoom and it's just a little. I don't

00:32:46.299 --> 00:32:47.660
know. It's a little harder to get everything

00:32:47.660 --> 00:32:51.579
organized on Zoom, I found. You, as an instructor,

00:32:51.779 --> 00:32:55.119
pay a fee or a percentage of the money you make.

00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.359
You are not paying a monthly fee, which is really

00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.599
great for people that are starting out and you

00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:06.630
don't have a lot of. Money to burn. I highly

00:33:06.630 --> 00:33:08.109
recommend it. I think it's great. But there's

00:33:08.109 --> 00:33:10.670
a ton of competition for it, too. There's a ton

00:33:10.670 --> 00:33:14.009
of sites that are very similar. So if you're

00:33:14.009 --> 00:33:16.069
teaching, if you're thinking about teaching,

00:33:16.329 --> 00:33:18.869
start with Moxie. It's great. I highly recommend

00:33:18.869 --> 00:33:21.829
it. The customer service is exceptional. But

00:33:21.829 --> 00:33:25.970
there's at least five other major platform options

00:33:25.970 --> 00:33:29.349
for you. But it's a good way to pull in new clients

00:33:29.349 --> 00:33:33.299
that you wouldn't have otherwise. Oh, well, that's

00:33:33.299 --> 00:33:36.660
good to know. Maybe I'll write that down later.

00:33:36.940 --> 00:33:42.180
Yeah, it's moxie .xyz. So it's a whole bunch

00:33:42.180 --> 00:33:45.819
of weird letters all shoved together. Isn't that

00:33:45.819 --> 00:33:48.420
pretty much every brand, though? Yeah, and as

00:33:48.420 --> 00:33:51.099
people are running out of .com, the endings are

00:33:51.099 --> 00:33:58.319
getting unique. .net, .org, .tv. And then you

00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:02.019
have the abbreviated ones on social media, .zab,

00:34:02.019 --> 00:34:04.779
I don't know. Yeah, well, and then you travel

00:34:04.779 --> 00:34:06.859
and you find that other countries don't necessarily

00:34:06.859 --> 00:34:11.739
use .com. It's like .ca, .gr. Oh, God, I need

00:34:11.739 --> 00:34:16.420
like a whole booklet to remember this. Somebody

00:34:16.420 --> 00:34:18.639
needs to write a blog post about this. It's true.

00:34:18.699 --> 00:34:23.019
I'll put that on my to -do list for today. Yeah,

00:34:23.059 --> 00:34:26.969
send it to me when you're done. Yeah. That's

00:34:26.969 --> 00:34:29.289
too much. Well, it's on WordPress, so don't hold

00:34:29.289 --> 00:34:30.909
your breath. I might not be able to get it up.

00:34:32.070 --> 00:34:35.210
That's true. It might fall off. It's true. It's

00:34:35.210 --> 00:34:39.110
going to just go off into Never Never Land. The

00:34:39.110 --> 00:34:41.250
Twilight Zone. Right. I'm doing the Twilight

00:34:41.250 --> 00:34:47.329
Zone. I just quoted them. Whoops. I'll take it

00:34:47.329 --> 00:34:52.670
on my podcast. Send me. What do you think is

00:34:52.670 --> 00:34:57.500
one that you're the hardest? times before of

00:34:57.500 --> 00:35:00.219
running your own business before the whole coronavirus

00:35:00.219 --> 00:35:05.239
that's just extra well yeah that's its own beast

00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:11.519
um i think finding at least for me finding my

00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.559
footing has been the the most difficult part

00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.960
there's a lot of things that i'm passionate about

00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.260
that i want to be able to sort of integrate into

00:35:21.260 --> 00:35:25.889
my business but There is such a thing as too

00:35:25.889 --> 00:35:30.650
much. So it's been a couple of years of me looking

00:35:30.650 --> 00:35:32.670
at all of the things that I love, that I want

00:35:32.670 --> 00:35:35.949
to be able to do, and sort of cutting ties almost

00:35:35.949 --> 00:35:40.469
with the things that don't really work. While

00:35:40.469 --> 00:35:44.690
I do have the mindset of failures or opportunities

00:35:44.690 --> 00:35:50.340
for learning, it's still... it's still hard sometimes

00:35:50.340 --> 00:35:53.239
to know that I'm however many years in now and

00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.500
I'm not like the wild, crazy success that I had

00:35:56.500 --> 00:35:59.340
hoped I would be at this point. But it's, you

00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:01.079
know, companies don't start that way. Apple,

00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:04.179
Google, Weight Watchers, nobody started their

00:36:04.179 --> 00:36:06.820
business and then was an instant success. And,

00:36:06.900 --> 00:36:08.880
but you don't really hear about the beginning

00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.619
difficult part. So it's this being able to find

00:36:12.619 --> 00:36:16.800
your footing and keep. Keep going when it's hard

00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:18.840
and when you're not hitting the milestones that

00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:21.639
you want. I think we're the biggest and still

00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.500
are the biggest challenges for me. But it's,

00:36:23.500 --> 00:36:25.940
you know, I know that this is where I want to

00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:27.800
be. I know that this is what I want to do. And

00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.340
it's just a matter of failing and shifting and

00:36:30.340 --> 00:36:34.000
failing and shifting until I do find that success.

00:36:34.860 --> 00:36:39.219
Some days easier than others. But it's interesting.

00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:41.139
It's definitely an interesting journey. It is

00:36:41.139 --> 00:36:47.389
not for the weak of heart. That's for sure. There

00:36:47.389 --> 00:36:50.309
are so many ads these days wherever you go. There

00:36:50.309 --> 00:36:53.769
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00:36:53.769 --> 00:36:56.389
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Podcast link in the show notes. Now let's get

00:37:26.849 --> 00:37:33.550
back to the show. So you're saying that you're

00:37:33.550 --> 00:37:37.610
doing too many things at once. I only want my

00:37:37.610 --> 00:37:42.849
20 different social media platforms. It's so

00:37:42.849 --> 00:37:45.769
hard. And it's so hard to be like, I know that

00:37:45.769 --> 00:37:48.510
YouTube is a big one. Like everybody needs a

00:37:48.510 --> 00:37:51.210
YouTube channel. And I know that that's something

00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:54.610
that I need to do, but it's, it's as an entrepreneur,

00:37:54.630 --> 00:37:57.449
entrepreneur, you need to be able to say now

00:37:57.449 --> 00:37:59.409
is not the time. I don't have all these other

00:37:59.409 --> 00:38:02.750
things organized. right now so i gotta wait a

00:38:02.750 --> 00:38:05.710
minute and that forcing myself to wait a minute

00:38:05.710 --> 00:38:10.829
is super hard i know how that feeling goes every

00:38:10.829 --> 00:38:13.650
time i find a new tool i feel like i just jump

00:38:13.650 --> 00:38:17.070
right in and i was like oh i'm gonna go do this

00:38:17.070 --> 00:38:22.010
and unfortunately i just did that and not have

00:38:22.010 --> 00:38:25.769
18 plus social media accounts. Yeah, it's hard.

00:38:25.949 --> 00:38:28.090
And it's when you get to a point where you can

00:38:28.090 --> 00:38:30.010
start to outsource, that's great. And you can

00:38:30.010 --> 00:38:32.170
have a bunch of platforms, but it's, and it's

00:38:32.170 --> 00:38:34.230
hard too in the beginning when you're, when you're

00:38:34.230 --> 00:38:37.610
getting yourself set up to, to know you need

00:38:37.610 --> 00:38:42.949
these, let's say 15 things and you want to be

00:38:42.949 --> 00:38:45.489
able to build them all at the same time and at

00:38:45.489 --> 00:38:49.190
the same pace. But it's, you know. That's not

00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:51.929
how it works. Like companies have huge departments

00:38:51.929 --> 00:38:54.449
to do all of these different things. And when

00:38:54.449 --> 00:38:58.429
you're a solo person, you are all of those departments

00:38:58.429 --> 00:39:04.349
in one. Yeah. I wear a 6 million different hats.

00:39:04.730 --> 00:39:12.050
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I can't balance. Exactly. Yoga

00:39:12.050 --> 00:39:17.260
is. Whip row. I can't bounce with all these hats.

00:39:18.019 --> 00:39:25.099
It's definitely an exercise. What do you think

00:39:25.099 --> 00:39:34.320
you most enjoy about running your own business?

00:39:35.940 --> 00:39:39.019
That's tough. There's a lot of parts of it that

00:39:39.019 --> 00:39:45.050
I really love. Just to be super honest. I like

00:39:45.050 --> 00:39:48.010
that I'm in charge. Nobody's telling me what

00:39:48.010 --> 00:39:54.809
to do. That is super appealing. I actually worked

00:39:54.809 --> 00:39:59.010
very, very briefly at a gym. in the town that

00:39:59.010 --> 00:40:01.829
I live in now. And I had a couple of personal

00:40:01.829 --> 00:40:03.650
training clients. I wasn't there for very long.

00:40:03.849 --> 00:40:07.909
And one of the women that I just loved, we became

00:40:07.909 --> 00:40:09.969
friends immediately when we started training

00:40:09.969 --> 00:40:14.869
together. left one day without re -signing. And

00:40:14.869 --> 00:40:17.030
this gym was very expensive. The prices they

00:40:17.030 --> 00:40:19.369
charge for personal trainings are astronomical.

00:40:20.070 --> 00:40:25.050
And she's a retiree. Her income is very limited

00:40:25.050 --> 00:40:28.030
and she was unable to re -sign at that time.

00:40:28.150 --> 00:40:30.409
So she walks out the door and my manager immediately

00:40:30.409 --> 00:40:32.409
grabbed me and pulled me aside and said, you

00:40:32.409 --> 00:40:36.530
just let $450 walk out the door. And I thought,

00:40:36.570 --> 00:40:40.860
she has a name. Her name is Diana. Here's her

00:40:40.860 --> 00:40:44.320
financial situation. When she gets that sorted,

00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.500
if she decides she wants to come back, then she'll

00:40:46.500 --> 00:40:51.219
resign. But it was this idea of people at the

00:40:51.219 --> 00:40:55.099
gym were not seeing the gym goers as individuals.

00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.840
They were seeing them as dollar signs. And that

00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:02.980
felt so nasty to me that I was out. I quit the

00:41:02.980 --> 00:41:08.130
next day and I started my own business. I'm not

00:41:08.130 --> 00:41:10.909
going to be a part of something that doesn't

00:41:10.909 --> 00:41:13.449
follow my set of morals. And I don't view people

00:41:13.449 --> 00:41:16.750
as paychecks. I view them as people because that's

00:41:16.750 --> 00:41:21.130
my job and that's what I'm all about. So to not

00:41:21.130 --> 00:41:23.489
have to face a situation like that again, where

00:41:23.489 --> 00:41:26.090
there's a total discrepancy in what the goal

00:41:26.090 --> 00:41:30.570
is. I think is the most appealing part of having

00:41:30.570 --> 00:41:32.369
your own business. And there's a lot of hard

00:41:32.369 --> 00:41:35.130
stuff that comes with it. But to me, it's worth

00:41:35.130 --> 00:41:38.610
all of the difficulties to be able to say, I

00:41:38.610 --> 00:41:40.849
see you as a person. I don't see you as a dollar

00:41:40.849 --> 00:41:43.670
sign because I can't support that. I can't back

00:41:43.670 --> 00:41:48.289
that. So that I think to me is my most favorite

00:41:48.289 --> 00:41:51.829
part, the most appealing part. Gee, I wonder

00:41:51.829 --> 00:41:54.230
why we get along very well because I totally

00:41:54.230 --> 00:42:02.500
agree. I totally don't like that every single

00:42:02.500 --> 00:42:06.719
company, well, let me rephrase that. Not every

00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:10.739
single company is like that, but maybe a big

00:42:10.739 --> 00:42:14.300
handful, maybe two big handfuls of companies

00:42:14.300 --> 00:42:20.340
are like that. Especially Planet Fitness recently

00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:24.500
just did that to customers. since they can't

00:42:24.500 --> 00:42:26.480
even go to the gym they kept on charging people

00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:31.960
wow yeah that's really nice and you know it can

00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.579
be argued that that is a way to run a business

00:42:34.579 --> 00:42:38.260
and it does make you money but you have to decide

00:42:38.260 --> 00:42:42.059
as an individual can you support that are you

00:42:42.059 --> 00:42:44.059
okay with that and if the answer is yes then

00:42:44.059 --> 00:42:48.239
do whatever you want but if you want to have

00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:52.400
a like a true human experience, I think. And

00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:56.119
if you want to be a good moral person, you, you

00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:59.039
have to treat people with compassion and you

00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:01.780
don't do that by not knowing their name, knowing

00:43:01.780 --> 00:43:04.559
them only for the size of the personal training

00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:11.000
package they buy. Exactly. Yeah. Just recently

00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:16.480
I had a, I'm not going to say any names, a company,

00:43:18.730 --> 00:43:22.789
or call me by the wrong name um and i was voicing

00:43:22.789 --> 00:43:27.530
a complaint about uh intellectual property theft

00:43:27.530 --> 00:43:32.909
and they uh and they call me by a different name

00:43:32.909 --> 00:43:37.449
that and i don't know how they even got that

00:43:37.449 --> 00:43:39.730
name mixed up even though i introduced myself

00:43:39.730 --> 00:43:44.409
within like the first 10 words of the email and

00:43:44.409 --> 00:43:49.230
I was like well um that person can't read and

00:43:49.230 --> 00:43:54.309
and I feel like that they really only saw me

00:43:54.309 --> 00:43:59.010
as just a complaining customer absolutely and

00:43:59.010 --> 00:44:02.650
not really an actual person and they're just

00:44:02.650 --> 00:44:07.630
like oh well we don't really care of what of

00:44:07.630 --> 00:44:11.139
who you are and I kind of feel like that's kind

00:44:11.139 --> 00:44:14.320
of what I based my brand on a little bit. I'm

00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.800
basically trying to keep everything up in front

00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.679
of my website so you know what's happening. Here's

00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.059
what I collect. Here's what I don't collect.

00:44:25.460 --> 00:44:30.119
Everything is out in the open. This is free.

00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:33.639
This is paid. There's no gimmicks. There's no

00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:36.360
tricks. It's not hidden. It's in plain view.

00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:39.719
Transparency is key. Well, and when you have

00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.099
solid customer service like that, people are

00:44:42.099 --> 00:44:43.659
going to notice and they're going to care. I

00:44:43.659 --> 00:44:46.980
think that everybody listening now can think

00:44:46.980 --> 00:44:49.619
of a time when they've had a great. customer

00:44:49.619 --> 00:44:52.059
service experience. And you remember that and

00:44:52.059 --> 00:44:54.719
you get brand loyalty when you feel like you're

00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:58.980
a valued person. And that's how I want my clients

00:44:58.980 --> 00:45:00.960
to feel. I want them to feel like they're part

00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.920
of my family. They're part of my circle. And

00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.760
maybe that slows me down in terms of earning

00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:11.699
potential in the beginning, but I'm not going

00:45:11.699 --> 00:45:16.179
to sell my morals for a paycheck. I can't sleep.

00:45:16.260 --> 00:45:20.380
I can't sleep. at night if i'm absolutely kind

00:45:20.380 --> 00:45:26.179
of a person right right yeah especially uh i'll

00:45:26.179 --> 00:45:29.820
give you one more example of this um my uh so

00:45:29.820 --> 00:45:36.099
i uh recently uh i had a little kind of a hiccup

00:45:36.099 --> 00:45:41.719
on uh social media of sharing one of my i allowed

00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:46.760
guest post on my website and and apparently uh

00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:53.679
I only had an affiliate disclaimer. I didn't

00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.679
have the health and wellness disclaimer out in

00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.880
person. And someone said that this should have

00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:03.199
been stated, this, this, and this. And I said

00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.199
to the person, you're absolutely right. I should

00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:09.159
have. I don't know everything about internet

00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:14.550
law. I never claimed that whatsoever. If I did,

00:46:14.690 --> 00:46:20.030
I'd be a lawyer and probably making a boatload

00:46:20.030 --> 00:46:25.710
of money. But it's not. But yeah, I said to the

00:46:25.710 --> 00:46:28.630
president, you're absolutely right. And now what

00:46:28.630 --> 00:46:32.630
I've been doing for many, many months, I've been

00:46:32.630 --> 00:46:36.130
going back through all my posts, even the poorly

00:46:36.130 --> 00:46:41.940
written posts that I'm going to redo. And by

00:46:41.940 --> 00:46:46.460
really poorly, the titles don't even make sense.

00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:48.920
The paragraphs are just horribly written. It

00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:52.239
is thrown together like I thought I knew how

00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:56.239
to write a blog post. And I admit that because,

00:46:56.460 --> 00:47:01.280
you know, it's too... I can't lie about how bad

00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.840
it is. It's just bad. The learning curve posts.

00:47:05.099 --> 00:47:09.679
Everybody's got them. Yeah. Everything from 2000...

00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:16.860
I think maybe at the end of 2019 into 2020 on

00:47:16.860 --> 00:47:22.300
my grade post, but then probably middle 2019

00:47:22.300 --> 00:47:30.400
to 2017 is terrible. Yeah. That's a steep learning

00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.039
curve. We've all got it. We all go at different

00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:41.550
paces. see all your posts on social media i don't

00:47:41.550 --> 00:47:45.070
think and it's kind of funny and i was like i

00:47:45.070 --> 00:47:48.150
don't think she ever makes a mistake that's so

00:47:48.150 --> 00:47:50.989
funny you say that it is absolute chaos behind

00:47:50.989 --> 00:47:55.010
the scenes you should see like smoke is coming

00:47:55.010 --> 00:47:57.489
out of my head as i craft these posts and i'm

00:47:57.489 --> 00:47:59.469
like crying to my friends like i don't know what

00:47:59.469 --> 00:48:03.130
i'm doing but i'm glad that nobody knows that

00:48:03.130 --> 00:48:10.119
part well not until now at least i guess If I

00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:13.260
could say that everything runs perfectly from

00:48:13.260 --> 00:48:17.480
my end, I'd be lying. Well, I think anybody would.

00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.539
Even these big, massive companies, even big influencers,

00:48:21.619 --> 00:48:24.920
even. I don't think anybody actually knows what

00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:33.420
they're doing. Well, it's just like I had a newsletter

00:48:33.420 --> 00:48:38.849
scheduled to come out July 1st. Well. I came

00:48:38.849 --> 00:48:42.309
back from my nine -day vacation. It wasn't sent

00:48:42.309 --> 00:48:47.130
out. And my lovely newsletter company, I'm not

00:48:47.130 --> 00:48:51.989
going to name any names. i really want to uh

00:48:51.989 --> 00:48:55.570
but they uh they lost my email on me on the newsletter

00:48:55.570 --> 00:48:59.630
and i was like i want compensation just like

00:48:59.630 --> 00:49:02.610
uh we have to wait for higher up support to get

00:49:02.610 --> 00:49:06.190
back to us is that an excuse to not give me something

00:49:06.190 --> 00:49:10.750
for free that you lost right yeah apparently

00:49:10.750 --> 00:49:13.090
then they want to give me something for free

00:49:13.090 --> 00:49:18.500
yeah So one more question before we wrap up.

00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:26.880
Do you think, could you ever see yourself ever

00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:35.539
not running your own business? I think the only

00:49:35.539 --> 00:49:39.579
time that would happen if I just found like a

00:49:39.579 --> 00:49:42.420
suitcase full of money and I didn't have to work

00:49:42.420 --> 00:49:47.130
anymore. I don't. Personally, and there's nothing

00:49:47.130 --> 00:49:50.409
wrong with this. It's just not for me. I don't

00:49:50.409 --> 00:49:52.550
think that I could ever work for somebody else

00:49:52.550 --> 00:49:55.610
again. I could maybe see myself doing some sort

00:49:55.610 --> 00:50:00.630
of collaboration, but I like being in charge.

00:50:00.710 --> 00:50:03.289
I like kind of knowing that things are going

00:50:03.289 --> 00:50:07.829
to go a way that is acceptable to me. And the

00:50:07.829 --> 00:50:10.929
way that that happens is I'm in charge. And with

00:50:10.929 --> 00:50:14.110
that, I accept the... potentially incredible

00:50:14.110 --> 00:50:17.829
difficulties that come with that but i i never

00:50:17.829 --> 00:50:20.570
want to put myself in a position where i'm not

00:50:20.570 --> 00:50:23.889
valued and my clients are not valued so for me

00:50:23.889 --> 00:50:27.409
um that means i run my own business um until

00:50:27.409 --> 00:50:30.030
i get super rich and then i'm just gonna like

00:50:30.030 --> 00:50:32.369
live on a yacht or something something super

00:50:32.369 --> 00:50:40.710
cool well uh So where can people find you on

00:50:40.710 --> 00:50:46.570
social media? On Instagram, compassion .as .my

00:50:46.570 --> 00:50:50.909
.compass. Long. Or my website, compassionasmycompass

00:50:50.909 --> 00:50:54.429
.com. My podcast as well, under the same name,

00:50:54.469 --> 00:50:59.690
Compassion As My Compass. Do you have any other

00:50:59.690 --> 00:51:04.250
last few words you want to talk about? Embrace

00:51:04.250 --> 00:51:07.159
failure. I think those are my, that's my final

00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.000
thought. Find a way to embrace it. It's hard.

00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:12.019
It's a journey. You're going to mess it up a

00:51:12.019 --> 00:51:16.539
bunch of times. Life is hard. Don't let it be

00:51:16.539 --> 00:51:18.739
harder than it needs to be. And if you can take

00:51:18.739 --> 00:51:22.340
something that's maybe not ideal and find a positive

00:51:22.340 --> 00:51:25.159
in it, I think it's worth a little effort to

00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:31.289
do so. Are you sure you don't want to just work

00:51:31.289 --> 00:51:38.650
on my podcast from now on? Because you put everything

00:51:38.650 --> 00:51:43.110
so much better than I do. On the outside. On

00:51:43.110 --> 00:51:51.989
the inside, still chaos. Constant chaos. I think

00:51:51.989 --> 00:51:55.710
by the... Maybe, let's say, maybe sometime, maybe

00:51:55.710 --> 00:51:59.130
at the end of the year, I get you back on because

00:51:59.130 --> 00:52:03.530
I enjoy all of this time with you. Oh, thank

00:52:03.530 --> 00:52:07.190
you so much. Yeah, this was awesome. This was

00:52:07.190 --> 00:52:09.530
a lot of fun. And honestly, I was on your podcast,

00:52:09.550 --> 00:52:14.369
was it two years ago, a year ago? About a year

00:52:14.369 --> 00:52:16.690
ago. Yeah, you were one of my firsts and I just

00:52:16.690 --> 00:52:19.829
passed a year, maybe like a month or two ago.

00:52:20.789 --> 00:52:23.880
Jeez. I've only been up and running for, my podcast

00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:26.579
has only been up for three months. Oh, so you're

00:52:26.579 --> 00:52:31.760
in the good stages. This is the fun part. Well,

00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:35.420
I hope I can stay in touch with you. Oh, absolutely.

00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.579
Yeah, definitely do. I'm glad that you were able

00:52:39.579 --> 00:52:42.559
to make it. It felt like it was an eternity to

00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:46.099
get you on here. Well, it was moving. It's been

00:52:46.099 --> 00:52:49.579
chaos. My life is chaos right now. You're preaching

00:52:49.579 --> 00:52:52.760
to the choir. Yeah. The whole world is kind of

00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:58.400
chaos right now. Well, have fun packing. Thank

00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.780
you. I will. I'll talk to you soon. See you.

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