How Cerebral Palsy Impacts Everyday Activities With Win Charles

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of Crazy Fitness Guy Healthy Living Podcast.

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I just met a really cool person. Her name is

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Wynne Charles. I believe she wrote like 12 or

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13 books. And I eventually wanted to create my

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own book. I said it. I was trying to keep that

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a secret, but once I met her, it slipped anyway.

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And as a writer, she wins that race. 13 books,

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or 14? I don't know. She'll let you know for

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the exact number, but she puts me to shame. Anyway,

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I'm going to let Wendy do all the talking because

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she has a very fascinating story about herself

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and I invited her on because I'm always looking

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for new people to meet and to meet more new friends

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every single day. So, Wynne, take it away. Well,

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thanks, Jimmy, for having me on. And yes, Jimmy

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is correct in one sense. I am an 11 -time published

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author. All my work could be found on my website,

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askwynne .webelieve .com. I'll hand that to Jimmy

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so he can stick it in the show notes. By the

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way, you guys, I think you should go listen to

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my podcast and go listen to Jimmy's interview

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on my podcast because I do have a podcast. Oh,

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did I mention I am becoming a journalist? And

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did I also mention that on top of all this craziness,

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I have... a neurological disability called cerebral

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palsy. As I said, she makes me really look bad.

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11 books, I got zero. Yep, so yeah. And I started

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kicking it into high gear in journalism back

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in 2010, but I didn't really kick it into high

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gear until March of this year because I had a

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day job. I was in the education space for 13

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years up until COVID hit. and education space

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let me go and I realized when I was coming home

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from a business trip that I was coming home to

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no job and I started to cry on, literally started

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to cry on an airplane coming back from Orlando,

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Florida, and I didn't know why. And then when

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I got to Chicago International Airport with the

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person I was traveling with, I realized why,

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why I started to cry on that flight. And basically

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what I have been doing for the past five months

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is not only going back to school, but back to

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school to get a second degree. And then, but

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journalism work to the 10th grade. Jeez. What

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made you want to become a journalist anyway?

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What made me want to become a journalist? Well

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19 years ago today as we sit here recording this

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interview it's September 11th and for those of

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you that are old and young and remember what

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happened on September 11th 19 years ago today

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um when two planes flew three planes flew in

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one to the Pentagon one to the World Trade Center

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and change aviation forever and change our lives

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forever. And so what really made me, what stirred

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a passion inside me is that I, when I realized

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that people will be impacted by journalism. There

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are so many ads these days wherever you go. There

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are ads in movie theaters, on TV, on radio, and

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back to the show. On 9 -11 and how incredibly

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hard the journalists work on 9 -11 and This is

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before the world pandemic, mind you. And so that

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just really kicked it into high gear. And I was

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lucky enough to later on in May of 2001, 19 years

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ago, I was lucky enough to go to National Public

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Radio. and see a story drop on they were doing

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a story on Guantanamo Bay and I was so fascinated

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by the equipment that I could care less about

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the story but I'm like put a microphone in front

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of me and so that's what led me on this interesting

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path to become a journalist and a lot of people

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don't know that I want to become a journalist

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because of what happened on that 9 -11. I actually

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remember when I was at 9 -11, during 9 -11, I

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was, it was, I was in school, and I think it

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was, I think maybe it was kindergarten, no, was

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it, no, maybe elementary school, no, was it still,

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no, I was, I think it was kindergarten, because

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It was definitely not, I never, yeah, I think

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it was kindergarten, I think. Anyway, but my

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parents got me, my mom picked me up at school,

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and she brought me back home. All the schools

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were dismissed. Everyone was sent home early.

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And my parents were all upset, as was everyone.

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But I didn't know at the time what happened because

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my parents didn't let me watch the news because

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by then, who wants to let their kids watch the

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depressing news? But later... growing up over

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the years, when I saw recaps of what happened,

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that's when I knew exactly what happened. Only

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in the last two, only in the last two, only in

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the last two days, I mean, in the last two years,

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I stopped watching the recap. Not because of

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anything. Not because I think I would forget.

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Sometimes I don't want to forget about it or

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move on. But it's too sad. And I'll always remember

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it. And I'll always remember it. But I just want

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to... I kind of, like, as you've probably seen

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on TV, they used to show it every single year

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on certain channels. Now, you have to go searching

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for that channel for it to be on. I didn't even

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open up the news this morning on my Amazon smart

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speaker because I know it's just way too... It's

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just way too much for those of us to remember

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what went on. It's just way too much. And those

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of us who were younger and those of us who were

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older remember exactly where we were and what

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we were doing and how many TVs were pulled into

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different rooms so that people could watch what

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was going on. And I remember a person distinctly

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saying to all of us, a group of kids, I was in

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a room with kindergarten. I believe kindergarten

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through eighth grade and I of course was in the

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back of the room and the principal told myself

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and colleagues and the students and colleagues

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that we weren't allowed to leave. we weren't

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allowed to leave and I believe that a lot of

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principals did that the further from the east

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coast that we were because they weren't sure

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what was going to happen. They weren't sure what

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was going to happen as to if we let these kids

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go what is going to happen next and uh like your

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um your parents give me a lot of parents were

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calling schools to figure out what to do next

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and i i distinctly remember my principal saying

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to me you're not allowed to leave until i give

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the go button where you can leave it um then

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you can leave eventually by the time 3 o 'clock

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rolled around it was we were allowed to leave

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but i remember coming home and not being allowed

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to watch the news only um like you jimmy only

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when i got older did i realize exactly what happened

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Although I did watch the first plane fly into

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the World Trade Center, but I wasn't sure what

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was going on. I honestly thought it was a joke.

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Yeah, I didn't know it was going on either. And

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I think... I think before this episode gets too

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depressing, I think we should change directions

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of this episode. Because I, not to get off topic

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or anything, but my, before we started this episode,

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I had to read this reading for class, and the

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last two readings that we read was the most depressing

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thing i ever read in my life and i was like oh

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this is great and of course we're doing this

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interview on 9 11 and it's like oh this is getting

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better and better getting better and better okay

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so how can we make this show uh more upbeat uh

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okay so uh So how many books are you planning

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to write? I am working on my 12th and 13th. They're

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going to be published by a publisher. I do it,

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well, now I do it hybrid for the majority of

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my published work. It was self - published work,

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so I want to write 20 books in the span of my

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lifetime, but I am working on 12 and 13 as we

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speak. Do you mind if I ask you how old you are?

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I'm not trying to sound... No, I am 33 years

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old, and I am living with my stepmom. I lost,

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and my family knows this, I lost both my parents.

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One in 2010, I lost my mom, and then in 2019,

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I lost my dad. Jeez. I'm sorry to hear that.

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So I've outlived both my parents. I bet you you

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can hit that 20 -book goal before... Well, I

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plan to do it, and yeah. After I get my journalism

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degree, my journalism degree is taking up the,

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other than podcasting, it's taking up the majority

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of my time right now. I definitely hear that.

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Everything is taking up my time. The last time

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we talked, I just finally hit 500 total plays

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on my podcast. Well, the good news is I have

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been known to like podcast feeds because people

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know it's me. And so as soon as this episode

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comes out, I'll be sharing it. So you'll get

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more. podcasts, theme plays, then you know what

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to do with because it's me. Definitely. I was

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wondering, do you ever feel, do you ever feel

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like, I never liked the word disability, but

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do you ever feel like what makes you... There

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are so many ads these days wherever you go. There

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are ads in movie theaters, on TV, on radio, and

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on billboards. So why would you want to listen

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Podcast link in the show notes. Now let's get

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back to the show. I absolutely hate that word,

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disability, because it's like you're telling

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somebody that they're disabled when they can

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still function. Oh, definitely abled. Let's say

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that. Definitely abled. Okay, let's go with that

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then. Do you ever find that it holds you back?

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When I learned about the complexities of cerebral

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palsy, I had to do my own research, so to speak.

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I knew there was something wrong with me when

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I was six years old and couldn't kick a soccer

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ball straight. And then realizing that, And then

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when I was in seventh grade, my mom sat me down

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and said, you have CP. Well, by the time I was

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in high school, I started Googling CP and did

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a little. started in my back pocket and realized

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how huge my disability was and then I had to

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go get a psychology exam for something else and

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then I realized that the two words ataxia spastic

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the psychologist put in front of the words cerebral

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palsy I realized okay two scary words that I

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don't know about but yet they have something

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to do with me and Ataxia spastic cerebral palsy

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is one of the most common cerebral palsies out

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there. And then in 2019, I was, I hit rock bottom

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after losing my dad. And so I... Again, the journalist

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that I am and the curiosity researcher that I

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am, I asked a physical therapist and a PT student,

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I said, well, is cerebral palsy a bone and joint

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condition or a neurological condition? They both

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looked at me and said, when you have a neurological

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condition. And it was so interesting to me that

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no one said to me, you have cerebral palsy. This

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is what it is. No one, no one said that to me.

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Everyone. googled it everyone thought I knew

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and I actually called a friend of mine right

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after discovering this and I said you I said

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look this is what I just found out didn't you

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know in the time that you were working with me

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that this was what cerebral palsy was or is.

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And she goes, yeah. And I said, well, you didn't

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tell me. And she goes, I thought you knew. I

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thought you knew by now what your disability

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was. So it has come to my attention that both

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my parents were in denial and they didn't want

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to tell me. And yeah, both my parents were in

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denial and they didn't want to tell me. Geez.

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To be honest, well, I kind of have a similar

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story as well. Maybe not very same, but... My

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parents knew that I was autistic. I think a lot

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of my cousins knew, but someone on the autistic

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spectrum doesn't always know that they're autistic.

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For instance, it wasn't until I'm just going

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to give you like, just give the audience kind

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of a guess, an estimate, but I probably didn't

00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:05.799
really figure it out until maybe, probably maybe

00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:11.799
ninth grade, maybe 10th, maybe even a little

00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.859
bit later in high school, because it's not that

00:25:15.859 --> 00:25:20.460
anybody was keeping a secret from me, but like,

00:25:20.460 --> 00:25:25.519
I wasn't really in, I didn't really think, I

00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:29.119
didn't, I knew that I was in a smaller class,

00:25:29.420 --> 00:25:35.099
but I didn't, it's not like I really paid attention

00:25:35.099 --> 00:25:38.680
to the other classes I went into, like the bigger

00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:41.160
classrooms. I just thought it was like, oh, my

00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.119
class was just in a smaller room because, I don't

00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.109
know. There's only so many rooms, big rooms in

00:25:49.109 --> 00:25:52.089
school, so I just didn't know that they just

00:25:52.089 --> 00:25:57.329
kind of, I didn't know if they just shoved this

00:25:57.329 --> 00:26:01.349
in that room just because that was just the room

00:26:01.349 --> 00:26:05.089
that they have on hand. Yeah, well, that's one

00:26:05.089 --> 00:26:10.650
way to put it. And plus I, and maybe somebody

00:26:10.650 --> 00:26:15.099
could call me naive, but. When I was growing

00:26:15.099 --> 00:26:18.819
up, I absolutely hated public school. Ask anybody

00:26:18.819 --> 00:26:26.339
that knows me very well. I hated public school.

00:26:27.299 --> 00:26:29.579
It's not even just that. I just hated school

00:26:29.579 --> 00:26:33.740
in general. And because I was, I don't want to

00:26:33.740 --> 00:26:36.579
say studying, but I was learning things that

00:26:36.579 --> 00:26:42.819
I didn't like to learn. in seventh and eighth

00:26:42.819 --> 00:26:47.240
grade where all my classes were basically in

00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:52.259
special education and my teacher made science

00:26:52.259 --> 00:26:55.279
fun. And she said like, oh, you get to do the

00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.440
science experiments in high school, wait until

00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:00.559
you see it. Well, when I got to high school,

00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.680
I don't think I did one science experiment whatsoever.

00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:06.839
And I did, it was the lamest experiment in the

00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.549
world. Hey, maybe that's what the experiment

00:27:09.549 --> 00:27:14.430
was, is that it was so lame that, see how lame

00:27:14.430 --> 00:27:18.269
we can be in the whole high school years. No

00:27:18.269 --> 00:27:22.390
science experiments whatsoever. Take the fun

00:27:22.390 --> 00:27:26.650
out of school. Yeah, take the fun out of school.

00:27:26.789 --> 00:27:34.390
Yeah, exactly. And so you either have great teachers

00:27:34.390 --> 00:27:41.480
or you don't. The funny thing is, is that until

00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:47.380
I did my own research on my own disability in

00:27:47.380 --> 00:27:54.720
high school, no one would have told me. And until

00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:59.660
I put the broadband stick up and asked questions,

00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:05.180
No one would have told me. So even though I was

00:28:05.180 --> 00:28:11.920
diagnosed with cerebral palsy back in 87, I didn't

00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:20.940
know the complexities of it until 32 years later.

00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.960
I didn't know that it was a neurological disability.

00:28:25.380 --> 00:28:30.160
I didn't know that I would need help. for the

00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.079
rest of my life. But now that I know that, I

00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:40.000
have a deeper and truly appreciate the help that

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:46.539
I do have. I can also appreciate a lot of that

00:28:46.539 --> 00:28:52.519
same stuff as well. For the years I didn't know,

00:28:57.789 --> 00:29:01.410
I found out on my own accord and I probably would

00:29:01.410 --> 00:29:04.450
have to say I don't think I would take it very

00:29:04.450 --> 00:29:07.130
well if somebody told me I was autistic because

00:29:07.130 --> 00:29:09.609
at the time I didn't know what that meant until

00:29:09.609 --> 00:29:13.849
I googled it but now I kind of look at it as

00:29:13.849 --> 00:29:19.130
it makes me unique doesn't make me strange I'm

00:29:19.130 --> 00:29:25.319
tired and this is no promotion but and this But

00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.220
I have to say I am tired of all those kind of

00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:36.019
influencers slash celebrities slash celebrity

00:29:36.019 --> 00:29:38.839
influencers who are saying autism needs to be

00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:41.779
cured because it really does not need to be cured.

00:29:42.380 --> 00:29:45.039
What needs to be cured is cancer. Thank you.

00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:51.119
It doesn't need and I'll just put this in there

00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:55.430
just to make you feel better, Jimmy. I've done

00:29:55.430 --> 00:30:00.950
research on vaccines and autism. I actually,

00:30:01.089 --> 00:30:07.609
in high school, wrote a paper on vaccines and

00:30:07.609 --> 00:30:14.609
autism. And this thing about vaccines and autism,

00:30:14.990 --> 00:30:20.640
ah, no, it's not true at all. It's been proven

00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:25.420
by science. Vaccines don't cause autism. And

00:30:25.420 --> 00:30:32.180
so vaccines don't cause autism at all. So it's

00:30:32.180 --> 00:30:38.880
not, it doesn't need to be cured. CP, they, CP.

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00:31:51.990 --> 00:31:56.769
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00:31:56.769 --> 00:32:02.529
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00:32:02.529 --> 00:32:08.750
know how. Sheesh, I don't know if we could do

00:32:08.750 --> 00:32:14.210
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00:33:10.269 --> 00:33:16.089
out of their asses. I'm sorry, but this whole

00:33:16.089 --> 00:33:21.990
controversy about autism is caused by vaccines

00:33:21.990 --> 00:33:30.289
and cerebral palsy is cerebral palsy. Give me

00:33:30.289 --> 00:33:35.940
strength. strengths. I definitely agree with

00:33:35.940 --> 00:33:43.319
you because there is I have to say it's uh I'm

00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:48.900
not my by any means I'm not like uh using this

00:33:48.900 --> 00:33:52.640
as I'm not trying to sound like a baby or anything

00:33:52.640 --> 00:34:00.250
but uh But it's kind of offensive of just even

00:34:00.250 --> 00:34:05.849
saying such things, saying that autism is caused

00:34:05.849 --> 00:34:08.269
by vaccines, because basically you're saying

00:34:08.269 --> 00:34:12.710
that I wouldn't have gotten autism if I didn't

00:34:12.710 --> 00:34:20.070
have a vaccine. So thanks. So basically, my parents

00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:24.010
could have prevented that. It's all gene -related

00:34:24.010 --> 00:34:28.699
and everything. It's what I was born with, so

00:34:28.699 --> 00:34:33.119
I don't care. It makes me who I am. Don't like

00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.719
it? Don't ever talk to me. I don't give a flying

00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:40.460
rat's ass. I mean, that's the way I feel about

00:34:40.460 --> 00:34:43.920
it. That's the way I feel about it now that I

00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:48.400
know about the complexities of cerebral palsy.

00:34:48.500 --> 00:34:55.449
I don't give a flying rat's ass. People see me

00:34:55.449 --> 00:34:59.050
walking through an airport. People are amazed

00:34:59.050 --> 00:35:05.130
that I can fly with help. And it's like, yeah,

00:35:05.309 --> 00:35:12.070
so I can fly. And I just need help to get on

00:35:12.070 --> 00:35:15.510
the airplane. But I can fly like every other

00:35:15.510 --> 00:35:19.809
person on the planet. And what drives me nuts

00:35:19.809 --> 00:35:25.309
is that people don't believe us. when people

00:35:25.309 --> 00:35:30.550
don't believe when people with disabilities say

00:35:30.550 --> 00:35:34.130
hello we have a college degree or we're getting

00:35:34.130 --> 00:35:40.070
a college degree and it drives me nuts all the

00:35:40.070 --> 00:35:46.500
connotations around disabilities and the reason

00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:49.239
why I'm getting a journalism degree is because

00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.800
I want to be a voice for the voiceless. I not

00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:58.440
only want to be a voice for the disabled, but

00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:04.239
I want to be a voice for caregivers who care

00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:09.619
for the disabled to make them stand up, to make

00:36:09.619 --> 00:36:15.360
their voices shine as well. I think, yeah, I

00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.260
think what they should really, I think what they

00:36:19.260 --> 00:36:23.840
really should call us instead of disabled, I

00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.480
think they should call us the doers because...

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:32.260
I love it. I absolutely love it. The doers. Somebody

00:36:32.260 --> 00:36:37.719
can quote me on that. I absolutely love it. The

00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:42.900
doers. Because I know once... Once I'm on a mission,

00:36:43.019 --> 00:36:48.179
I see it through. I have what I like to call

00:36:48.179 --> 00:36:53.719
dog with bone syndrome. Give me a mission and

00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:58.659
give me a, I don't know if you know this, all

00:36:58.659 --> 00:37:01.300
of the adage, but your audience probably does,

00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:06.340
the KI to the sick method. If you tell me we're

00:37:06.340 --> 00:37:09.519
going to do something, but there's going to be

00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:15.329
a carrot at the end, I see that mission through

00:37:15.329 --> 00:37:20.909
like there's no tomorrow. And I tell people about

00:37:20.909 --> 00:37:27.030
it. I ask questions. I see that mission through

00:37:27.030 --> 00:37:36.269
like there's no tomorrow. Yeah, me both. I can,

00:37:36.289 --> 00:37:40.230
I literally can, when somebody throws a hard

00:37:40.230 --> 00:37:43.309
test my way, I might have to ask all the questions

00:37:43.309 --> 00:37:47.050
until I'm blue in the face. Yeah, blue in the

00:37:47.050 --> 00:37:49.929
face. I think one of my professors yesterday,

00:37:50.309 --> 00:37:53.170
I was talking to, I was asking her a question,

00:37:53.289 --> 00:37:55.610
you know, like she repeated herself multiple

00:37:55.610 --> 00:37:59.030
times to many of the people who had the same

00:37:59.030 --> 00:38:01.570
question, but for some reason my brain wasn't

00:38:01.570 --> 00:38:06.840
getting, wasn't wrapping up. their thoughts around

00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.039
how to answer this one question that she was

00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.679
asking. And so then, so I stayed after to talk

00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.199
to her about something else. I'm not going to

00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.460
go into that because one -on -one confidential,

00:38:19.900 --> 00:38:25.510
but they, but. But I asked her about the sun,

00:38:25.590 --> 00:38:27.989
and I told her, I was like, look, I'm sorry for

00:38:27.989 --> 00:38:30.849
all the questions. I know you already just received

00:38:30.849 --> 00:38:33.690
all the questions, but my brain is just not wrapping

00:38:33.690 --> 00:38:41.710
around. Finally, when she told me, basically

00:38:41.710 --> 00:38:44.909
everything just kind of like spelled it out for

00:38:44.909 --> 00:38:48.030
me, basically, after answering the same question

00:38:48.030 --> 00:38:51.210
over and over again. on my third or fourth time

00:38:51.210 --> 00:38:58.090
with a few other people in my class, it finally

00:38:58.090 --> 00:39:01.250
clicked to me. It was like, oh, I get it now.

00:39:01.769 --> 00:39:07.010
So right after that meeting, after class, I just

00:39:07.010 --> 00:39:11.030
sat down. I wrote 300 or 400 words or whatever

00:39:11.030 --> 00:39:15.050
it was to answer the question. And I was like,

00:39:15.170 --> 00:39:19.260
wow, why did my brain make this seem? harder

00:39:19.260 --> 00:39:22.400
than it really was. And it really wasn't. And

00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.840
I was like, I could write 400 words in my sleep.

00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:32.380
Yeah, I can actually. English is my strong point.

00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.980
English. is English composition is my strong

00:39:37.980 --> 00:39:42.639
point. All I need to do is get a little bit of

00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.219
help organizing it, but other than that, English

00:39:46.219 --> 00:39:50.579
composition is my strong point and storytelling

00:39:50.579 --> 00:39:55.900
is my strong point. So I have a question for

00:39:55.900 --> 00:40:04.460
you. Did you start with your website first or

00:40:04.460 --> 00:40:09.840
did you start with your podcast? I started with

00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:16.599
my book first and then when I hit the publishing

00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.780
button it would have been 10 years ago now and

00:40:20.780 --> 00:40:29.619
10 years ago October and it When I hit the publishing

00:40:29.619 --> 00:40:34.059
button, I thought, oh, great. Now I have a book.

00:40:34.340 --> 00:40:38.500
Great. I'm a published author. But how in the

00:40:38.500 --> 00:40:42.780
world am I supposed to market the dang book not

00:40:42.780 --> 00:40:49.590
to let it collect dust on Amazon? book on the

00:40:49.590 --> 00:40:54.090
bookshelves of Amazon and I'm like oh great so

00:40:54.090 --> 00:41:00.550
at the time I was listening to a podcast called

00:41:00.550 --> 00:41:05.730
The Creative Pen all about book publishing and

00:41:05.730 --> 00:41:13.230
then I just decided to first of all I tried YouTube

00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:18.239
which is still up By the way, my attempt at YouTube

00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:25.199
is still up. And so I tried YouTube and then

00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:30.119
I had, I literally had a fan come to me one day

00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.400
and she happened to be a clothing stylist at

00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:41.579
the time. And she literally said, Wynne, I love

00:41:41.579 --> 00:41:47.530
you, but... I can't keep my laptop open to support

00:41:47.530 --> 00:41:52.389
you while I'm working. I need something that

00:41:52.389 --> 00:41:58.070
can be portable. I need something that could

00:41:58.070 --> 00:42:02.929
be portable and I could listen to you. And so

00:42:02.929 --> 00:42:07.630
then I said, okay, meet my fan base where they're

00:42:07.630 --> 00:42:13.199
at, which I'm wonderful. It's wonderful that

00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:17.000
I did. And then I'm like, okay, what's next?

00:42:17.219 --> 00:42:24.059
So little old me sneaks into a Facebook group

00:42:24.059 --> 00:42:32.150
and then asked once. the best podcast host, and

00:42:32.150 --> 00:42:37.469
little me goes over to that podcast host, figures

00:42:37.469 --> 00:42:42.510
out how to set up a podcast, and figures out

00:42:42.510 --> 00:42:46.070
how to get the artwork and do all that stuff,

00:42:46.349 --> 00:42:53.849
and I launched my podcast back in October of

00:42:53.849 --> 00:43:00.800
2010, and yeah. And ever since then, it's been

00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:05.900
going strong and it's been going good. And I've

00:43:05.900 --> 00:43:09.840
got to meet amazing people and interview amazing

00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:16.699
people like you because that's how I do. So I

00:43:16.699 --> 00:43:20.780
started with the book. It landed up turning into

00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:26.190
a podcast. And then it landed up. turning into.

00:43:26.489 --> 00:43:30.230
I started with my book and then went to my website

00:43:30.230 --> 00:43:39.090
and then went to the podcast. Jeez. So here's

00:43:39.090 --> 00:43:43.269
another question for you. Not trying to add anything

00:43:43.269 --> 00:43:49.739
to your play or anything, but I've been... Ever

00:43:49.739 --> 00:43:53.719
since I met you, I mean, we haven't met in person,

00:43:53.820 --> 00:43:58.659
and boy, I would love to. Yeah, well, I think

00:43:58.659 --> 00:44:03.719
a lot of, half, half of my fan base has met me

00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:08.340
in person, and man, that was an interesting experience

00:44:08.340 --> 00:44:14.320
when we were allowed to go meet people in person.

00:44:14.659 --> 00:44:17.619
Man, man, that was an interesting experience.

00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.039
Good grief, I didn't realize how many people

00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:26.219
listened to us when, uh, how many people followed

00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:32.320
me online. It's like, good grief. Well, so, anyway,

00:44:32.579 --> 00:44:36.980
uh, before, uh, just a curiosity, uh, when this

00:44:36.980 --> 00:44:40.579
whole, uh, pandemic is over, well, it's going

00:44:40.579 --> 00:44:46.039
to be two questions in one. Sorry. Uh, uh, one,

00:44:46.300 --> 00:44:51.300
uh, Where are you located anyway? I am located

00:44:51.300 --> 00:44:59.980
in beautiful Aspen, Colorado. And perhaps maybe

00:44:59.980 --> 00:45:03.840
one day we can meet in person after this whole

00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:10.420
stupid coronavirus. Yeah, yeah. But before that,

00:45:10.539 --> 00:45:13.199
I was just wondering, not trying to add anything

00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:19.139
to your play, but ever since I... I met you online

00:45:19.139 --> 00:45:25.260
and now we're talking on my podcast. You gave

00:45:25.260 --> 00:45:31.539
me inspiration of actually writing a book. I

00:45:31.539 --> 00:45:38.820
have contemplated with notes of my books and

00:45:38.820 --> 00:45:44.900
like I have notes I have I've written I wouldn't

00:45:44.900 --> 00:45:48.980
even say close to even how much a book, how many

00:45:48.980 --> 00:45:53.420
pages there are in a book. But my question is,

00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:56.039
would you be willing to teach me how to self

00:45:56.039 --> 00:46:00.679
-publish? I would, and this goes for anyone listening,

00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:07.340
I would be honored to help you self -publish

00:46:07.340 --> 00:46:13.000
because then you can say, I no more excuses I

00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:17.880
have written a book and so many people have come

00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.340
to me and said when I want to write a book I

00:46:21.340 --> 00:46:23.699
want to write a book I want to write a book how

00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:27.260
do you do it and I could teach you how to do

00:46:27.260 --> 00:46:34.719
it and I have the resources to help you and the

00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:42.630
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00:46:42.630 --> 00:46:46.989
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00:47:16.860 --> 00:47:25.980
you know, and for all my listeners out there,

00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:31.960
wherever you're located, I'm not going to make

00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:34.480
any promises that there's a book coming because

00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:41.519
right now I'm in school, in college, in class

00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:45.980
this semester, and it's hectic working online.

00:47:46.420 --> 00:47:51.599
So I'm not making any promises. I'm not talking

00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:55.880
myself out of any of this. I don't want anybody

00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.400
just to write me emails and say, where's your

00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:03.380
book? And it's like, I don't have one. And I

00:48:03.380 --> 00:48:10.260
don't want to explain why I don't have one. Yeah.

00:48:11.099 --> 00:48:16.900
Maybe one day. Give people time, space, and grace,

00:48:16.900 --> 00:48:21.820
you guys. And you'll see what we can do after

00:48:21.820 --> 00:48:27.590
college. after college. I'm hoping my public

00:48:27.590 --> 00:48:30.610
speaking career, my official speaking career

00:48:30.610 --> 00:48:34.969
will happen during college so I can, because

00:48:34.969 --> 00:48:38.090
I'm tired of this whole pandemic and I'm tired.

00:48:38.730 --> 00:48:41.769
Yeah, you're tired. I think the rest of us are

00:48:41.769 --> 00:48:47.090
tired too. I think the last three or four episodes

00:48:47.090 --> 00:48:49.929
I always mention one thing about the pandemic.

00:48:54.819 --> 00:49:03.760
Let's keep that streak going. Yeah. Anyway, where

00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:07.780
can people find you, all your podcasts, social

00:49:07.780 --> 00:49:12.960
media, and your website? AskWin .WeBelieve .com

00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:18.400
or they can Google my name and it should pop

00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:22.190
up. I'm all over the place. including Amazon

00:49:22.190 --> 00:49:28.849
smart speakers, Google smart speakers, yes, and

00:49:28.849 --> 00:49:34.909
so I'm all over the place, and I like to be everywhere,

00:49:35.050 --> 00:49:40.449
and I primarily hang out on Facebook and Twitter,

00:49:40.530 --> 00:49:45.150
and you guys can just follow my journey, and

00:49:45.150 --> 00:49:52.289
yes. Well, I think you said you're on Instagram

00:49:52.289 --> 00:49:57.110
too, right? I am. I have two Instagram accounts,

00:49:57.530 --> 00:50:04.010
one being askaskwin, so it's A -S -K -A -S -K

00:50:04.010 --> 00:50:12.769
-W -I -N, the other one being askwin622 -S -K.

00:50:13.820 --> 00:50:22.019
W -I -N 622. Gee. In total, how many profiles

00:50:22.019 --> 00:50:34.519
do you have? In total, I have Facebook, Instagram,

00:50:34.659 --> 00:50:41.059
Twitter, and LinkedIn. So that's about four.

00:50:43.610 --> 00:50:49.570
I guess I should not say how many I have. Yeah.

00:50:49.650 --> 00:50:53.710
People can basically find me everywhere and people

00:50:53.710 --> 00:51:01.469
can listen to the podcast on Tuesdays, Thursdays,

00:51:01.469 --> 00:51:10.210
and Sundays. I think in total Crazy Fitness Guy

00:51:10.210 --> 00:51:18.449
has One too many. I think in total 20. Well,

00:51:18.710 --> 00:51:27.230
now social media is something that keeps us all

00:51:27.230 --> 00:51:34.969
connected. Well, what's funny, and this is what's

00:51:34.969 --> 00:51:40.809
funny, for me, I only have Facebook, Twitter,

00:51:40.909 --> 00:51:45.670
and Instagram. and yet Crazy Fitness Guy is more

00:51:45.670 --> 00:51:50.190
popular than me. Even though it's my own work.

00:51:51.070 --> 00:51:56.150
Even though it's your own work, yes, Crazy Fitness

00:51:56.150 --> 00:52:01.590
Guy is more popular than you, but that's so funny

00:52:01.590 --> 00:52:09.329
because my first name is my brand, so Wynn is

00:52:09.329 --> 00:52:14.750
my legal name, and how it's spelled is my logo

00:52:14.750 --> 00:52:20.650
name. So I stick, I use my first name as my brand.

00:52:21.010 --> 00:52:26.769
So it's interesting to see how many people like

00:52:26.769 --> 00:52:33.449
that, and a lot of people do. Well, I think after

00:52:33.449 --> 00:52:37.670
we wrap this podcast up, I think you and me got

00:52:37.670 --> 00:52:42.639
to follow each other because... Oh yeah! Oh,

00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:48.519
yeah. And I'm welcome. I welcome anyone to follow

00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:56.360
me and anyone to give me a shout out and come

00:52:56.360 --> 00:53:01.599
on my podcast and be interviewed. And yeah. And

00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.599
one more question before we go, because I know

00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:07.920
you're busy. I'm busy. Everybody's busy. We're

00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:17.789
all busy. Would it be possible, I can't, I don't

00:53:17.789 --> 00:53:21.369
know about the rest of my year this year because

00:53:21.369 --> 00:53:25.210
there's what, September, October, three months

00:53:25.210 --> 00:53:27.630
left in the year. I'm not counting September

00:53:27.630 --> 00:53:33.389
because we're already in it. I was wondering,

00:53:33.530 --> 00:53:37.590
would you want to be a guest on my podcast again

00:53:37.590 --> 00:53:41.989
sometime in the future? I would love that. I

00:53:41.989 --> 00:53:50.349
mean, the more awareness we can gain on people

00:53:50.349 --> 00:53:53.590
with disabilities, the better. Because we're

00:53:53.590 --> 00:53:56.570
not freaks of nature, you guys. We have what

00:53:56.570 --> 00:53:59.829
we have, and we deal with it with grace and style.

00:54:00.909 --> 00:54:04.230
Oh, and I got one more question. I know I just

00:54:04.230 --> 00:54:08.670
said that, but oh well. I break my own rules

00:54:08.670 --> 00:54:14.570
on my show. Yeah, it's your own rules. Yeah,

00:54:14.710 --> 00:54:17.309
sometimes I try not to, but yet I do it anyway.

00:54:29.389 --> 00:54:37.789
As an entrepreneur, do you find it hard to stay

00:54:37.789 --> 00:54:45.630
focused? No, because I now have a job that I

00:54:45.630 --> 00:54:50.969
absolutely love. So me sitting here for the last

00:54:50.969 --> 00:54:54.510
half an hour talking to you doesn't seem like

00:54:54.510 --> 00:55:00.420
work. It just seems like another... day doing

00:55:00.420 --> 00:55:04.480
what I love, whereas when I was in the education

00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:09.360
space, and shout out to all my educator friends

00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:14.199
up there and all the educators that are still

00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:21.300
in the education space this year, I slugged along.

00:55:21.820 --> 00:55:31.460
I was the typical person that loved that loved

00:55:31.460 --> 00:55:35.659
a day off now give me a day off I like can I

00:55:35.659 --> 00:55:39.420
get back to work can I get back to work because

00:55:39.420 --> 00:55:44.820
as they say if you have a job you love you never

00:55:44.820 --> 00:55:48.559
work a day in your life I don't know who says

00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:51.650
that quote that said that quote but they are

00:55:51.650 --> 00:55:56.610
spot on because uh yeah they are spot on yes

00:55:56.610 --> 00:55:59.869
they are spot on i definitely like what i did

00:55:59.869 --> 00:56:05.489
too what um what i've been doing now after 13

00:56:05.489 --> 00:56:11.650
years i of being in the education space i'm so

00:56:11.650 --> 00:56:15.610
happy that i lost my job i'm like i'm in the

00:56:15.610 --> 00:56:19.150
happiest kid on the planet that i lost my job

00:56:19.150 --> 00:56:26.260
and i'm like bye My job, because I just feel

00:56:26.260 --> 00:56:30.260
like raising awareness for cerebral palsy is

00:56:30.260 --> 00:56:38.320
my calling. And when I get off this podcast,

00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:44.900
if I've been... There are so many ads these days

00:56:44.900 --> 00:56:47.739
wherever you go. There are ads in movie theaters,

00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:51.860
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or click on the Premium Podcast link in the show

00:57:21.309 --> 00:57:40.539
notes. Now let's get back to the show. those

00:57:40.539 --> 00:57:44.000
kids especially in the education space my job

00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:49.679
is done. Yeah and yeah I have to say the same

00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:56.309
thing. Unfortunately for me there's There's some

00:57:56.309 --> 00:58:01.550
people in my life trying to push me to try to

00:58:01.550 --> 00:58:08.369
get an actual job, a job job, where I'm working

00:58:08.369 --> 00:58:15.090
for a boss. And I've done that for a few years,

00:58:15.210 --> 00:58:18.489
not full time, just part time for summer jobs.

00:58:18.710 --> 00:58:22.320
But I have to say. I think out of all the summer

00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:26.219
jobs I had so far, I've been alive for 26 years

00:58:26.219 --> 00:58:32.360
so far, 27 in October. I really haven't liked

00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:36.139
any of the things I've done. And I know that's

00:58:36.139 --> 00:58:42.420
only summer jobs, but I have never met one person,

00:58:42.460 --> 00:58:45.280
and I could be wrong, but I don't think I've

00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:48.570
ever met one person said that. I love my job.

00:58:48.650 --> 00:58:51.710
I've gone to the same place in the same building

00:58:51.710 --> 00:58:59.570
and work from whatever to whatever. Because eventually

00:58:59.570 --> 00:59:02.309
it gets old, it gets boring. You see the same

00:59:02.309 --> 00:59:08.070
people on the subway or if you're in New York

00:59:08.070 --> 00:59:14.510
or whatever city. Yeah. And it's like, and why

00:59:14.510 --> 00:59:16.670
do you want me to have a job? It's like, it sounds

00:59:16.670 --> 00:59:20.389
like a fun life. And no offense to anybody who

00:59:20.389 --> 00:59:24.829
does that. I get that. I guess I get it that

00:59:24.829 --> 00:59:29.489
that's what that's what you do. That's what you

00:59:29.489 --> 00:59:33.110
do. And kudos to you. And maybe you like it,

00:59:33.130 --> 00:59:38.809
but that's not for me. I agree with you halfway.

00:59:39.469 --> 00:59:46.739
If I ever had to get a job again, I would go,

00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:52.500
I would not go back into the education space.

00:59:52.820 --> 00:59:57.960
I would stay in the journalism space and do a

00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:04.239
W2 job. I would do anything W2 job related and

01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:12.460
creative. Definitely. And before we wrap up,

01:00:12.579 --> 01:00:16.320
I'd like to say Winn, it was great to have you

01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:22.800
on and man I wish we could just keep going and

01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:28.039
because my goodness it was a pleasure talking

01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:34.599
to you with you and I feel like you're a very

01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:38.599
big inspirational for people with extra challenges

01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:44.349
like me and everyone else in the world and there

01:00:44.349 --> 01:00:48.829
and I'm writing like I'm just gonna even though

01:00:48.829 --> 01:00:54.289
you haven't written 12 and 13 books yet I mean

01:00:54.289 --> 01:00:57.469
they're in progress but just to write that many

01:00:57.469 --> 01:01:05.130
books so far and it's like at least at least

01:01:09.309 --> 01:01:14.829
you make it inspirational that you make me want

01:01:14.829 --> 01:01:19.289
to go write my own book right now. Yeah. All

01:01:19.289 --> 01:01:24.250
my books could be found on Amazon. If you just

01:01:24.250 --> 01:01:30.190
type in my name, Wyn, W -Y -N, Cole, C -H -A

01:01:30.190 --> 01:01:35.670
-L -E -S, and Google I, Wyn, that you guys can

01:01:35.670 --> 01:01:40.400
find my books. And I hope I can have you back

01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.699
on because it was, I could go like all day talking

01:01:44.699 --> 01:01:48.340
to you and one day I would get bored. Yeah, well,

01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:53.719
you can have me back on in the future. Sweet.

01:01:53.820 --> 01:01:58.500
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