The Relationship Between Media and Mental Health: How They Impact Each Other With Brian

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Terms and conditions apply. Okay, welcome to

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another episode of Crazy Fitness Guys Healthy

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Living Podcast. I am interviewing my friend,

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Brian, who's going to talk about, let's see,

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he's talking about... media, mental health, anxiety,

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etc. And yeah, I was actually interviewed by

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him, I think two weeks ago, last week, I don't

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know, I must count. Coronavirus. Fair enough,

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fair enough. Take it away, Brian. Oh, thank you

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for having me today. I appreciate it. Of course.

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So how do you keep yourself mentally sane on

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media? Well, I would say just staying on top

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of it and just being engaged in the process.

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There are so many ads these days wherever you

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go. There are ads in movie theaters, on TV, on

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Premium Podcast link in the show notes. Now let's

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get back to the show. In other words, not watching

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a movie solely for entertainment purposes, which

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I do, you know, most people do watch movies for

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entertainment purposes and whatnot, but to kind

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of dig deeper. And if there's something that

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speaks to anxiety, you know, dig a little deeper,

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see what it says about that. You know, if it

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says something about, you know, depression, you

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know, dig, you know, and kind of look at it from

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a, from a, not a critical perspective necessarily,

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but just digging deeper as far as to seeing what

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it may represent or not represent as far as mental

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health. And that's a process that I've just found

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fascinating. Because there's often movies that

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get mentioned as a movie that would be about

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bipolar or about depression, but those are all

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the obvious ones. You know, there's movies like,

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you know, Silver Linings Playbook, that one gets

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mentioned all the time. Yeah, Rain Man, that

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gets mentioned all the time. I just watched it

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this past weekend. Well, did you know that that

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is based on a true story? I did not know that.

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The Rain Man, he was actually, and I don't know

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what the right way to phrase it is. He was not,

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my understanding is that he was not autistic.

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He was, I forgot what the, the diagnosis was,

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but a lot of what he was doing as portrayed by

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Dustin Hoffman in the movie, the things like

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the card counting and the memory, those are actually

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very learnable skills and talents. which i highly

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don't recommend card counting exactly exactly

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so so when the movie when the movie came out

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a lot of that at the time when that came out

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in the 80s right like late 80s early 90s i think

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yeah i think so when the movie came out it was

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almost like you know groundbreaking in a way

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because no other movie at the time had really

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covered that so it's so watching it again and

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I actually did see it again recently I want to

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say in the last couple months I want to say that

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movie has not aged well it has not because there's

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a lot that just is so 80s -ish in the movie I

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mean it's a movie I'd have no complaints if the

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movie were ever remade Normally, I'm not a fan

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of that, but I would have no complaints if the

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movie were ever remade. But I mean, a point of

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example, though, as far as the memory thing is

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with a lot of the early Greek philosophers. When

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they were memorizing stuff, there would be a,

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and you know that that figure of speech, you

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know, in the first place, you heard that that

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figure of speech, we will say like in the first

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place. Yeah. One of the things that the early

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Greeks would do to memorize, and this would be

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like Socrates and Plato and all the Greek people.

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What they would do is they would, you know, in

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their head, they would make like an imaginary

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palace. And there would be like one room you

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would remember all these items. Like say you

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were going to remember maybe a speech you were

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going to write or a book. And so everything in

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chapter one, all the opening characters and the

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exposition and whatnot, that's all going to be

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in the foyer. So everything pertaining to the

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book setup and the characters that are going

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to be introduced, you put all that in the foyer.

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And then you go on to the next room and everything

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about maybe, you know, chapter two, where you

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have like the opening, you know, storyline and

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whatnot that goes in the, you know, in the living

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room. So all the stuff, so it's kind of like

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you, you like separate different stuff you want

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to remember in different boxes, so to speak.

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So when you, when you remember them, you don't

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think about the stuff you're remembering. You

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think about the boxes that they're in. So it's

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like, okay, well, what box is this going to be

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in? And what box is this going to be in? So it's

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not something where, I mean, does that make sense?

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It's sort of a, it's somewhat of a lost art in

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our society now because you don't need to really

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remember that much stuff anymore because you

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can just Google it and it's on, you know, palm

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of your hands on your cell phone. So, but it

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is. I just memorize everything. Exactly. So that,

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there you go. There you go. And a lot of what,

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So that was one of the interesting things that

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I do like about Rain Man is it does touch upon

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a lot of what the Raymond character, you know,

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Justin Hoffman, what he's doing. What he's doing,

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like anyone can do. basically. I mean, they have

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to, you know, practice it. They have to, you

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know, put forth the effort. Well, let me rephrase

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that. I don't think I could do all the math because

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I hate math. Except for the math. But I mean,

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even there was that scene where he, you know,

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the book of, was it Toothpicks or something,

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or Matchbooks? Yeah. That all falls out. That

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is... That's all math. So as far as like some

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whatever, that's strictly math. I mean, I think

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it's like some, I don't know what the exact calculation

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would be, but I would imagine he maybe looked

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at one of the, you know, on the box and maybe

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said like, this box has, you know, 300 toothpicks

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or maybe he calculated the. you know, the width

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and the length and the breadth and, you know,

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so maybe it was something like that. But 99 %

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certain it was simply math. So that's one of

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the things that I've always have liked about

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Rain Man is it cuts a lot of that at the forefront.

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What do you think of your favorite Do you think

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Raymond did a good portrayal of autism? I think

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it did, in a way. I know that he had a very set

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schedule. That was in the movie, you know, the

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whole Wapner on it at three, you know, the people's

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court that he was watching on TV. There was actually

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a, now that you mentioned that, because that

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movie is in many ways like a road movie. Because,

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you know, the Tom Cruise character, he's traveling,

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you know, to. I think for the family affair to

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get that in order. And there's that one scene

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where they're out of town and they go to some

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stranger's house because he sees a TV on. And

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that's one scene that, oddly enough, that's a

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scene that I really remember that kind of really

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characterizes that routine. I think there's a

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scene even at the airport where... I love the

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airport scene. Yeah, because I don't know if

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any airports still have TVs where you can put

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a coin in and watch it. They're not that free.

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But the other thing that really stuck out in

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me was the routine. It had to be people's court

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at three o 'clock, Wapner on at three. And then

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the Abbott and Costello thing, you know, the

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who's on first. Yeah. Where at one point, I like

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to hear how he just, he didn't want to get on

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the airplane. And he's like, all the crashes

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and everything. And it's like, and then Tom Cruise

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just had like, just, just like lost it. And it's

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like, okay, fine. Every airplane in the world

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just crashed. Yeah, yeah. That's another reason

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why I'd have no complaints with it being remade

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because a scene like that, that scene would...

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probably not play too well if you're watching

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it by today's standards with all the craziness

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that's gone on. Well, I mean, honestly, it's

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not funny for, I mean, it's not funny that plane

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crashes, but I mean, just the way he just...

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Yeah, exactly. Just the way it played out. There

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was definitely, there was a... I don't think

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anybody could come up with a better response

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than that. It just was, well, just... In my opinion...

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I'm kind of a big fan of Tom Cruise, just not

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in the movie The Mummy. Yeah. Oh, yeah, The Mummy.

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I was not a fan of that movie. I like Brendan

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Fraser better in that. Yeah. Was he in that,

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too? Yeah. Tom Cruise, they just remade that

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Mummy movie. I remember for a while. Brendan

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Fraser was in every movie for the longest time

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and then he just sort of, you know, flew off

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the radar. Yeah. You know, you can actually,

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there's actually a Google search of what happened

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to Brendan Fraser. Oh, are you serious? Yeah.

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Like Encino Man and, you know, Blast from the

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Past. And then he's like, poof, then he disappeared.

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It might as well be like what happened to Bigfoot,

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too. Yeah, yeah. So how are you dealing with

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your mental health during this annoying pandemic?

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I'm doing all right. What's been a little weird

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is there's, and I'm in Arizona, and some of the

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states and cities and counties and whatnot, they're

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not all in agreement. And there's been some towns

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where they waive the requirements temporarily

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and some are still going on. So it kind of is,

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just wish there would be more uniformity because

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it's sort of like, you know, one place and it's

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not a big deal for them. And then you go another

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place and it's, I wish they could all be on the

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same page. That would be. That would make things

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a whole lot better if they could all be on one

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page. You might want to send that to the CDC

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where they keep saying one thing and then we

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take in that response later on. Yeah. They don't

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seem to know much of anything going on these

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days. CDC, sorry if I'm picking on you, but it's

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true. Hopefully they're not watching. Dr. Fauci,

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if you're watching, hey there. Say hi to Dr.

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Fauci. And do you have any mental tricks that

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you've been helping dealing with these crazy

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times? Because I know yesterday is kind of everything

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was just getting to me. I know that. Yeah. Well,

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I would say just a lot of, you know, gratitude,

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just remembering what I'm grateful for, you know,

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grateful for you having this resource available,

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grateful that you invited me on your show, something

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like that, kind of just little stuff to be grateful

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for, you know, grateful that I, you know, have

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a roof over my head, at least for now. yeah so

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that that's one thing and then just um you know

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breathing you know that always you know i know

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that's a bit of a cliche but um just if i you

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know just can press pause and and breathe and

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you know that kind of thing that's so that's

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always been helpful well funny thing you said

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about that because uh i was listening to this

00:16:37.909 --> 00:16:43.769
ted talk uh from um The TED Radio Hour on NPR.

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It basically was a school assignment, but I like

00:16:50.649 --> 00:16:53.870
to listen to some TED Talks and the TED Radio

00:16:53.870 --> 00:16:59.509
Hour. So this guy, he had a... bet with his son

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about uh like just a family bet uh about uh being

00:17:04.930 --> 00:17:08.809
grateful for things and so uh he was telling

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how that basically like he think um like thanking

00:17:15.670 --> 00:17:19.789
one person for one thing led to another another

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person of thinking and it was just like so many

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different places he had he even traveled to like

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uh he was thankful for for coffee right so he

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was thankful for the person who served the coffee

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he was thankful for the person uh who drove the

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coffee beans in uh all the way to the oh really

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getting detailed on that yeah and so he and he

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even drew he even drove all the way to where

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the coffee beans uh and thanked them and they

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he they gave him the whole tour of the whole

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facility yeah and it's like gee, I should try

00:17:55.420 --> 00:17:59.880
this, and it's like, it's like, it's like, we

00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:03.460
laugh, but like, he, and like, now every day

00:18:03.460 --> 00:18:06.160
he wakes, he, he said every day he wakes up,

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he's, he's, he's taking that one hour, and he's

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like, he's writing, he's writing letters to people,

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and he's like, thank you for this, because of

00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.099
this, and, and like, even thank the people who

00:18:18.099 --> 00:18:22.539
do all that can, construction on the roads, like

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painting the yellow lines, and who makes the

00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:32.980
pavement for the roads and whatnot. And so it's

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just like this big giant spider web. You think

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one person goes to this other person to this

00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.819
other person. I don't think I can go all the

00:18:41.819 --> 00:18:45.579
way down to wherever. I'm not a coffee drinker,

00:18:45.579 --> 00:18:49.019
but... I'm grateful for a lot of things, but

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it's like, I don't know if I could do that. Not

00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:54.180
because I don't want to, but I don't have a car

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at the moment. And that's another story for another

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time. Well, one of the weird ironies of the timing

00:19:06.579 --> 00:19:10.740
of this interview and this show, particularly

00:19:10.740 --> 00:19:15.470
when you're the crazy fitness guy is in between

00:19:15.470 --> 00:19:18.809
the time that this was scheduled. And today I

00:19:18.809 --> 00:19:23.910
had a doctor's appointment and some of the numbers

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from the doctor's appointment were not as I had

00:19:26.529 --> 00:19:32.170
hoped. And so there was a weight loss routine

00:19:32.170 --> 00:19:37.029
that I was on several months ago. And I've had

00:19:37.029 --> 00:19:42.400
to return to that now to get in better shape

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because apparently the COVID has led to some

00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:55.220
change in habits that I need to unchange. I definitely

00:19:55.220 --> 00:20:03.160
know what you mean by that. Have you been feeling

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any anxiety during this whole kind of pandemic,

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so to speak? I know for myself, there have been

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times where I kind of feel like just curling

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up in my bed and just not doing anything for

00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:29.980
just a day. But I don't know. Oh, I hear you.

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Yeah, there definitely have been. Anytime there's

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like a large crowd or the opposite, no crowd,

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there's always... been anxiety associated with

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that. At this point, I don't know if it will

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ever return to, you know, pre -COVID quote -unquote

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normalcy, so as close to pre -COVID normalcy

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as possible. But yeah, there has been a lot of

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anxiety associated with a lot of what's been

00:21:02.420 --> 00:21:06.440
going on, definitely. Do you feel in your opinion,

00:21:06.500 --> 00:21:08.759
do you feel like that the anxiety comes from

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either the news, like reading the news or watching

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the news? It's funny you mention that because

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that's one of the things that I've been very

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conscious of is limiting my intake and so possibly

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and that's in large part why I have inevitably

00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:36.789
just limited it is because The news cycle, you

00:21:36.789 --> 00:21:39.009
know, have you heard the term news cycle? Oh,

00:21:39.029 --> 00:21:41.410
yeah. That term where, you know, all the news

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comes at you like all at once. The news cycle

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used to be like one time a day, you know, and

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then it got to be two times a day where all you

00:21:52.970 --> 00:21:54.970
needed to know, you only had to check in like

00:21:54.970 --> 00:21:57.430
once a day or twice a day. And then little by

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little, the news cycle has just gotten like up

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to five, six, seven, eight, nine times a day

00:22:03.750 --> 00:22:06.910
or more. to such an extent that it's now constant,

00:22:07.109 --> 00:22:11.950
that in some weird way kind of allows you to

00:22:11.950 --> 00:22:14.970
kind of take a step back and turn it off because

00:22:14.970 --> 00:22:18.309
you know there's more where that came from. If

00:22:18.309 --> 00:22:23.950
that makes sense. Yeah, it does. I know like

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I use this app called Flipboard and I basically

00:22:28.710 --> 00:22:33.480
personalized my newsfeed, where I'm really only

00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:36.980
looking at health and wellness or video games

00:22:36.980 --> 00:22:43.819
related news or technology or yoga or whatever.

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And don't get me wrong, there's still some politics

00:22:51.859 --> 00:22:54.619
that just like pop up in there, not that I'm

00:22:54.619 --> 00:23:02.299
following any politics. But I can just pass it.

00:23:02.380 --> 00:23:04.220
I might just read the title of it, but then just

00:23:04.220 --> 00:23:11.039
pass it. I just can't take this anymore. It's

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not for me. Politics is out the window. That

00:23:16.819 --> 00:23:30.059
it is. This is true. Do you find Do you find

00:23:30.059 --> 00:23:36.220
it ever a problem of trying to ask for help?

00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:45.339
Yes and no. I would say no in terms of that's

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something that I've learned how to do. A lot

00:23:48.589 --> 00:23:50.910
of people, you know, have learned not to ask

00:23:50.910 --> 00:23:52.410
for help because we kind of, you know, particularly

00:23:52.410 --> 00:23:54.789
for men, there's, you know, the whole boys don't

00:23:54.789 --> 00:23:58.730
cry thing and, you know, suck it up. And so I've

00:23:58.730 --> 00:24:01.509
kind of been able to kind of work through that.

00:24:01.670 --> 00:24:06.309
So on one hand, I would say, you know, it's gotten

00:24:06.309 --> 00:24:22.740
a little easier. in general. If there's a counselor,

00:24:22.859 --> 00:24:25.220
for example, that I want to schedule an appointment

00:24:25.220 --> 00:24:28.619
with and there's no available times or if there's

00:24:28.619 --> 00:24:32.279
a wait list up to a month or longer, which is

00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:37.099
not unheard of in a lot of cases. Stuff like

00:24:37.099 --> 00:24:40.740
that where the help is seemingly out of reach.

00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:48.109
That's gotta be tough. I used to feel like I

00:24:48.109 --> 00:24:51.109
couldn't ask for help because, like you said,

00:24:51.430 --> 00:24:57.150
men shouldn't really have to ask for help or

00:24:57.150 --> 00:25:04.089
whatnot, but I've learned that the complete opposite.

00:25:04.789 --> 00:25:08.109
I also felt that way because when I got bullied

00:25:08.109 --> 00:25:11.269
in high school and middle school and elementary

00:25:11.269 --> 00:25:15.490
school, the bullies may seem like asking for

00:25:15.490 --> 00:25:17.849
help as a sign of weakness. It's actually quite

00:25:17.849 --> 00:25:21.269
the opposite. Exactly, exactly. And I think I

00:25:21.269 --> 00:25:23.849
had mentioned when I spoke with you previously

00:25:23.849 --> 00:25:27.490
is I was bullied as well. So whenever someone

00:25:27.490 --> 00:25:31.690
mentions that, I'm very, very receptive to and

00:25:31.690 --> 00:25:38.269
empathetic to. And particularly when you notify

00:25:38.269 --> 00:25:41.589
a principal or a teacher. And it goes on one

00:25:41.589 --> 00:25:44.430
ear and out the other. And there's maybe like

00:25:44.430 --> 00:25:47.210
a slap on the wrist and then it continues. Then

00:25:47.210 --> 00:25:49.289
it continues again. And then you re -report it

00:25:49.289 --> 00:25:51.349
again. And so that's something that I'm definitely

00:25:51.349 --> 00:25:55.970
very, you know, empathetic to and mindful of.

00:25:56.430 --> 00:26:02.049
Definitely. Well, it's funny. My school is kind

00:26:02.049 --> 00:26:10.309
of the opposite. Well, how my high school was

00:26:10.309 --> 00:26:16.670
set up, basically, the guidance counselors wanted

00:26:16.670 --> 00:26:19.329
you to come to them if you had problems and whatnot.

00:26:19.910 --> 00:26:23.950
And I've learned, like, after, like, one or two

00:26:23.950 --> 00:26:33.210
visits to them, I didn't do anything. There are

00:26:33.210 --> 00:26:36.009
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Podcast link in the show notes. Now let's get

00:27:12.529 --> 00:27:18.650
back to the show. I'm not going to name any names,

00:27:18.789 --> 00:27:28.509
but they didn't want to do anything. some trouble

00:27:28.509 --> 00:27:32.369
myself. I made friends with a lot of the principals

00:27:32.369 --> 00:27:36.089
and that basically paid off in the long run.

00:27:37.009 --> 00:27:42.990
I got some bullies expelled. I got some bullies

00:27:42.990 --> 00:27:50.910
sent to another school. And I got some bullies

00:27:50.910 --> 00:27:55.650
by the time I was done standing up to them and

00:27:55.650 --> 00:27:58.440
I did not use any physical force or whatnot.

00:27:58.660 --> 00:28:05.259
I just yell right in their faces. It's interesting

00:28:05.259 --> 00:28:09.180
you say that because I was the first one in my

00:28:09.180 --> 00:28:11.579
family, of all the kids, I was the first one

00:28:11.579 --> 00:28:16.000
to be excused from the private school that everyone

00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.539
else had to go to. And I was the first one, I

00:28:19.539 --> 00:28:22.059
think at this point, the only one who got to

00:28:22.059 --> 00:28:25.119
go to a public high school. And the public high

00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.500
school It was like a night and day difference

00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:30.140
with the bullying because at the public school,

00:28:30.420 --> 00:28:35.000
there was considerably less bullying. It just

00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.519
wasn't there. There was maybe, you know, it was

00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.039
still there to some extent, but not as bad as

00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.559
it was at the private school. And that might

00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.420
have been... What was that? You think that would

00:28:46.420 --> 00:28:48.740
be different? Yeah, and you think it would just

00:28:48.740 --> 00:28:51.720
be the opposite. But at the public school, the

00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:55.650
bullying was really not that bad. It really was

00:28:55.650 --> 00:28:57.230
not. And I think some of that had to do with

00:28:57.230 --> 00:29:00.910
it was an open campus. And I'm a firm believer

00:29:00.910 --> 00:29:05.369
in open campus because of that. A lot of people

00:29:05.369 --> 00:29:09.470
are against open campus in high school. My experience

00:29:09.470 --> 00:29:13.809
with bullying is testament to that. It is helpful

00:29:13.809 --> 00:29:18.109
if someone wants to, you know. And plus, the

00:29:18.109 --> 00:29:20.269
people who would be bullying me, they were off

00:29:20.269 --> 00:29:22.819
campus anyway. you know, probably on a smoke

00:29:22.819 --> 00:29:24.299
break or whatever. So they didn't have time to

00:29:24.299 --> 00:29:29.859
bully anyone. They were off campus. And so I

00:29:29.859 --> 00:29:32.519
think having it be open campus, at least for

00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.140
my experience, sort of buffered a lot of the

00:29:36.140 --> 00:29:40.640
bullying that was at the private school. This

00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.880
seems very opposite. Yeah, doesn't it? Doesn't

00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:50.299
it? And I mean, so much so that there would even

00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:52.519
be the guidance counselors at the public school

00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.960
who would take me out of class. And there would

00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.259
be like these little rap sessions or whatever

00:29:58.259 --> 00:30:00.140
they call them. So I would get taken out of class

00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:04.200
sometimes to get, you know, taken into like the

00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.740
guidance counselors, you know, little support

00:30:07.740 --> 00:30:10.980
groups, as it were. I guess that would be what

00:30:10.980 --> 00:30:14.240
they were. And I'd get taken out of class for

00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.849
that. So, you know, once a week for out of, you

00:30:17.849 --> 00:30:20.990
know, maybe homeroom or whatever subject it was,

00:30:21.190 --> 00:30:24.369
I would get, you know, maybe one, might have

00:30:24.369 --> 00:30:26.630
been once a week probably, where I got pulled

00:30:26.630 --> 00:30:29.009
out of class so I could be in this little, you

00:30:29.009 --> 00:30:31.670
know, mini support group with the guidance culture

00:30:31.670 --> 00:30:35.450
and with other people around campus. Gee, I don't

00:30:35.450 --> 00:30:40.359
think I ever got that in my school. So, I mean,

00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.099
the bullying was still there, but it was not

00:30:42.099 --> 00:30:44.920
as bad at the public school as it was at the

00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:49.500
private school. I mean, it was much, much, much

00:30:49.500 --> 00:30:52.960
different. You know, I think the reason why they

00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.380
didn't have this, probably because I was in the

00:30:55.380 --> 00:31:01.119
Twilight Zone. It has to be. You're saying to

00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:05.819
me that bullying is less in public school for

00:31:05.819 --> 00:31:10.319
you than private school. Unquestionably. Well,

00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.180
you have to look at it also is that in the private

00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:17.380
school, you've got the nuns and the priests,

00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.819
you know, disciplining everyone and, you know,

00:31:19.819 --> 00:31:23.730
giving them to, you know. detention and plus

00:31:23.730 --> 00:31:26.309
it's a closed campus so they're probably looking

00:31:26.309 --> 00:31:28.349
for someone to bully to make themselves feel

00:31:28.349 --> 00:31:31.490
better. Whereas at the public school you don't

00:31:31.490 --> 00:31:35.390
have the priests and nun you know breathing on

00:31:35.390 --> 00:31:38.509
your neck and you don't have anyone kind of looking

00:31:38.509 --> 00:31:41.369
to blame someone or trying to feel better about

00:31:41.369 --> 00:31:43.609
themselves by picking on someone. Are there still

00:31:43.609 --> 00:31:47.369
nuns today? What was that? Are there still nuns

00:31:47.369 --> 00:31:50.789
in schools today? Yeah there's some that are

00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:53.490
My understanding is there's different orders

00:31:53.490 --> 00:31:55.190
of nuns, like how there's different orders of

00:31:55.190 --> 00:31:57.950
priests, there's different orders of nuns. I'm

00:31:57.950 --> 00:31:59.450
not sure if orders, yeah, it might be called

00:31:59.450 --> 00:32:02.690
orders. But so there's some nuns who do, you

00:32:02.690 --> 00:32:05.829
know, they might teach. When I was in private

00:32:05.829 --> 00:32:08.829
school, I had a nun who taught science class

00:32:08.829 --> 00:32:11.529
and there was another nun who taught civics.

00:32:12.309 --> 00:32:16.130
And so, yeah, I think it depends upon what, you

00:32:16.130 --> 00:32:18.529
know, type of nun or what order of nun, because

00:32:18.529 --> 00:32:21.069
there's some that are really, kind of hands off

00:32:21.069 --> 00:32:22.910
and they let, they kind of let the nuns do whatever

00:32:22.910 --> 00:32:25.309
they want and some that are more, you know, more

00:32:25.309 --> 00:32:28.109
of the traditional, you know, cloistered nuns

00:32:28.109 --> 00:32:32.069
that kind of are the stereotype of, of nuns,

00:32:32.069 --> 00:32:33.970
you know, being, being in the convent where they're,

00:32:33.970 --> 00:32:36.809
you know. Wrapping people with rollers? Yeah,

00:32:36.890 --> 00:32:40.509
yeah. So, so my understanding is that kind of

00:32:40.509 --> 00:32:46.170
depends upon what, what order of nuns. Do you

00:32:46.170 --> 00:32:56.299
ever, Would you say that how do you feel? Do

00:32:56.299 --> 00:33:00.779
you ever feel like you ever get depressed lately?

00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:06.980
I'm not sure. I hadn't really thought about it.

00:33:07.059 --> 00:33:11.380
I've just been really busy with a lot of work

00:33:11.380 --> 00:33:15.200
and with a lot of, you know, my, you know, non

00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:22.789
-work. activities and whatnot. If I have, I don't

00:33:22.789 --> 00:33:26.390
know necessarily if I've noticed it. That's part

00:33:26.390 --> 00:33:30.029
of why I've been making an effort to stay busy.

00:33:30.710 --> 00:33:36.950
It's always helped when I have. If someone was

00:33:36.950 --> 00:33:39.390
going through depression at the moment, what

00:33:39.390 --> 00:33:44.509
would your advice be for them? First of all,

00:33:44.529 --> 00:33:49.319
let them know that they're not alone. And I know

00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.400
what they're, well, I can't say I know exactly

00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:53.019
what they're going through because everyone's

00:33:53.019 --> 00:33:54.559
different and everyone has different backgrounds

00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:57.380
and perspectives. So I can't say I know what

00:33:57.380 --> 00:33:58.539
you're going through because that would be a

00:33:58.539 --> 00:34:01.779
lie. But I can say I have a pretty good idea

00:34:01.779 --> 00:34:04.880
of what you might be going through. And I can

00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.279
say that with 100 % certainty that I have some

00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:11.219
idea of what you're going through. So where can

00:34:11.219 --> 00:34:17.469
people find you? Well, I am on the mental health

00:34:17.469 --> 00:34:24.329
film comment, which is on Facebook, mental health

00:34:24.329 --> 00:34:28.510
film comment with the capital M, capital H, capital

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F, and capital C. So on there, there is most

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of the socials. I think on Twitter, it's MH film

00:34:39.130 --> 00:34:45.860
comment. I think I may be on Instagram, but I

00:34:45.860 --> 00:34:48.539
say that, you know, with a question mark out

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loud because I don't know if I really, because

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I'm still getting used to that one. So maybe

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just, you know, Twitter and Facebook is probably

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the best way to define me. There are so many

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is a good time talking with you. I appreciate

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this. Totally. Let's stay in touch. Definitely.

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You can also find me on social media. Well, let's

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wrap this episode up. So there you have it. Thanks

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