Are You A Perfectionist? Here Are Some Examples to Help You Know! With Dr. Camila Williams

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episode of Crazy Fitness Guys Healthy Living

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Podcast. My guest today is Camilla Williams,

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who is also a... doctor, and she is going to

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talk about perfectionism, which sounds exactly

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like me and how I feel today and yesterday and

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the day before that, pretty much every single

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day. Welcome. Thank you so much for having me

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here today. It takes one to know it. I'm a perfectionist

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in recovery myself. So talk to me a little bit

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about perfectionism. Yeah, so there's a couple

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different ways to define perfectionism. But what

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you're looking at it at the root is this idea

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that if I do things perfectly, if I act or behave

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and get everything done just right, then I can

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spare myself the pain and the shame that comes

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from judgment or criticism or rejection by others.

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Usually at the core of perfectionism is this

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belief or this fear of I'm just not good enough.

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I think that's where a lot of people kind of,

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well, I'm not perfectionist, right? Because you

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look at your life and like, I'm not good enough.

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I don't feel like I ever do anything good enough.

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But it's actually because you feel that way and

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the things you do to try to control it and handle

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it leads to those perfectionist behaviors that

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can sometimes get in the way of us actually moving

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forward. Oh, that sounds exactly like my day

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today. Yes. What's been going on for you? Perhaps

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you should be interviewing me. My perfectionism

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is, I feel like I'm all over the place. I just

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had to go back through all my blog posts just

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to, I had somebody make it. I had somebody to

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help me make a disclaimer for my website for

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affiliate marketing and everything. And they

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use a size 12 font. And I read a book of search

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engine optimization. And they said that every

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website should at least have 16 size font. And

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at the time, I didn't know that. But I kind of

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felt like, why is this person making 12 and it's

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like I want a 16 and she's like no it's like

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you want 12 because so then people can differentiate

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and it's like people can differentiate if the

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if the font is two different fonts and one's

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bold and one's not bold yeah so I went through

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all of that and I was like man if I only could

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be just perfect and and I didn't have to go through

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all this trouble right But I mean, that's a great

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example of, I think one of the things that's

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not, not all perfectionists, right? There's different

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flavors of perfectionism, but it does show up

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that way. Like one of the things that perfectionists

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will do is we will like obsess or ruminate over

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the little details and we're spending so much

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time and energy trying to get all the little

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details just right. And it's stressing us out.

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And it's like when we take a step back and we're

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trying to look at the bigger goal of what we're

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trying to accomplish, like get these blogs and

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get this website and get this launched. It's

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we're putting all our time and energy into something

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that's not as I want to say it's not as efficient.

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It's not really what's going to move us forward

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in terms of our business, our school and our

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goals. So a lot of perfectionists will spin their

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wheels. It's another way to procrastinate. That's

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another really big thing for perfectionism is

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we procrastinate a lot. And sometimes we'll procrastinate

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by staying busy. We're doing busy work. We're

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still working, but we're just not working on

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what actually needs to be done. Sounds like me

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in many, many ways. Oh my gosh. How did you know

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that you were a perfectionist? So it wasn't,

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no, I did not have like an aha moment. It was

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just over the course of time and in working with

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a lot of clients, I started to really pick up

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on these common themes among people and kind

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of recognizing that one of the reasons I worked

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so well with it is because I really understood

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it. It's because I went through it myself. And

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I guess the first time I really like got hit

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over the head with it was when I was in graduate

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school. So I had been able to keep up my perfectionistic

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ways throughout college, procrastinating till

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the last minute, pulling all nighters to get

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things done and things always got done. But when

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I got to graduate school, that was not working

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anymore. procrastinating because i was so afraid

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like i had to get the term paper just right and

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it had to be perfect and i had to get a good

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grade and i would wait till the last minute and

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a graduate term paper you can't do it in an overnighter

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Research and preparation, and I started falling

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behind. And that's when it really like I had

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to stop and check myself. I'm like, what is going

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on here? This is actually starting to create

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some real consequences for me in the real world.

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And I needed to change that. Well, I didn't get

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to that part yet, but hopefully you can catch

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it sooner and then you won't have to deal with

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it. I hope so, because, you know, I think I think

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in my opinion and I hope my mom does not overhear

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this. Crap. She probably might listen to this

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podcast. I feel like I kind of get my perfectionist

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from her a little bit because I feel like, oh,

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I'm not doing enough. Like today I felt like

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I'm not doing enough marketing on my end. I have

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a bunch of tools that can help automate the process

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to keep my account. flow so it's not like lost

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in the shuffle of put me in the bottom of facebook

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um and uh but i just feel like oh i could be

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talking more about uh speaking experience uh

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i could be talking about i don't know many other

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things and i just feel like uh i'm doing a b

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c d e f g well but i'm not doing all the other

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stuff well and i feel like oh man i wonder if

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people are going to think is he in there for

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his head is he just a terrible motivational speaker

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just a terrible person who can't even just make

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time for everything all right why can't you make

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time for everything okay that's such a great

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my day right with all those 48 hours every day

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i wish But no, you're absolutely right. Like

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most perfectionists, like we start to learn these

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behaviors early on, like growing up in our families.

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And there can be a lot of different reasons why,

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like different root causes. But one of them is

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like we learn it by modeling what we see from

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our caregivers. You know, whether it's a parent,

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a grandparent or a teacher, we kind of just grow

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up absorbing it and learning that that's kind

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of the expectation. But that. You know, it can

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be a little bit stressful if we really hold on

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to that thought of I should be doing more because

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there's always something more, right? This isn't

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good enough. There's always going to be more

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that you can do. And if you don't know when to

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stop or where to draw the line, you're going

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to burn out. And that's something that I see

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a lot in the people I work with is they go through

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these crazy cycles of work, work, work, work,

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work, trying to do it all. And then they kind

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of crash and burn and they're doing nothing.

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because they just completely burned out and then

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they start over and it's just this constant up

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and down cycle so it's learning to kind of when

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to stop and step back and create a little bit

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more balance you basically summed up my whole

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2017 to 2018 year of starting crazy fitness guy

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90 plus hours a week 90 plus hours a week that's

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a lot and one of the things that happens too

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is I'll talk with people and they're like well

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I'm not perfectionist because my you know My

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home is messy, like everything there is disorganized.

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And I'm like, well, you can be perfectionist

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in certain areas of your life. And because all

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of your time and energy is going into that one

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area, the other areas of your life are kind of

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crumbling and a bit of a mess because you just

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haven't been giving it enough time and energy.

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And so, yeah, I'll see this where people put

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all their time and energy into work, but they

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don't have any time or energy left for their

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health. Or they're putting all their time and

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energy into their health, right? Eating healthy,

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exercising, all those things, but they're not

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really investing in their relationships and they're

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a bit disconnected. So there's a lot of different

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ways that it can show up. And so I just want

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to caution that, that you don't have to be perfectionist

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in all areas. Would you say that perfectionism

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could happen like you said earlier? early on

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in life but can it also happen i don't know as

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an adult too like i felt i feel like i didn't

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start uh feel like i was becoming a perfectionist

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until i don't know maybe the the last few years

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of running crazy fitness guy i feel like i was

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i'm around my parents and i feel like i had to

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do this a certain way i had to do this a certain

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way i had to finish this project before i start

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anything else and uh i mean i don't mind like

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finishing one project but i mean it just feels

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like i see my mom doing all these things and

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it's like should i be doing more should i be

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doing this should i be doing that yeah no it

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it it absolutely can show up at any point in

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your life There can be certain things that kind

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of trigger it and bring it on. And so I'll actually

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I'll share that like the two, you know, there's

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kind of two paths that I see most often. And

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this isn't the end all be all. Everyone has a

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unique experience. But most commonly, what happens

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is perfectionism kind of starts to come up when

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you're trying to prove yourself to someone or

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something. And so I kind of call this I'm trying

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to get. accepted I'm trying to be loved I'm trying

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to get recognized and praised and so it's like

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I'm trying to prove myself if I can do all this

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and achieve all this and more more more more

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more like then people will be proud of me and

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they will praise me and they will accept me no

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one will judge me no one will criticize me no

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one will reject me and so the perfectionism kind

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of comes up in this space of I am afraid that

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if people see me make a mistake or not do things

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perfectly, they're going to think less of me.

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And so I'm going to try to do all these things

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to protect against that. And so that's kind of

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one path. The other path is when you're kind

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of in a harsh environment. And that can happen

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at any point in your life and harsh environment,

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it can be anything from like abuse or trauma,

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to being bullied to being socially rejected,

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or to even, you know, starting a new job where

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you just don't fit in. And now you're trying

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to protect yourself from being hurt, because

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you are in a harsh environment. And that's where

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these perfectionistic behaviors come out. It's

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like, if I do everything perfectly, then mom

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won't yell at me. If I do everything just right,

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then the boss isn't gonna call me out in front

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of everyone. If I get everything just right,

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and then people are gonna wanna be on my group

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project in class and no one's gonna say, I don't

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want this person on my team. And so it becomes

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as a way to try to protect against being criticized

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or judged or hurt. And so those are kind of two

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of the most common pathways that I see, but just

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notice that it's almost, I always want to tell

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people like, don't feel bad if you are a perfectionist,

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like just acknowledge and recognize that this

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is how you've learned to kind of protect yourself

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and survive and get and try to do well, basically.

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I definitely know. I definitely know when I was

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doing. I kind of feel like lately, the perfectionist.

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I kind of feel that way from doing motivational

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speaking. I feel like I have to be on top. I

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feel like Google needs to find me more and I'm

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recent and I'm not just some kind of all over

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the place. I agree definitely with what you said.

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I kind of feel like my profession also comes

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from maybe just the bullying that I got when

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I was growing up where I feel like I didn't fit

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in. So now I'm trying to figure out, okay, so

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how can I fit in the motivational speaking world?

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How can I fit in? to make other people feel good

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because right and sometimes I don't feel like

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I'm making myself feel good and so it's like

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maybe I can just feel make someone else feel

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better yeah yeah and that fitting in is such

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a big part of it that was my flavor of perfectionism

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was the fitting in is like I kind of learned

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growing up it's like oh when I do something really

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well people want to hang out with me and they

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want to be on my team this feels good how do

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I get more of it and it just kind of It can spiral

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out of control. And like, that's one of the things

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that I wanted to share. It's like, I get a lot

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of people saying like, well, what's wrong, right?

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What's so what? Like my perfectionism actually

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helps me be a go -getter and achieve and do more

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and more and more because I have that drive.

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And a lot of people are, you know, able to go

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get by just fine. But the people who end up working

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with me, it's because it is leading to some consequences.

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It's creating some problems. Two of the things

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that I see as, you know, having the biggest consequences

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is perfectionists. They tend to give up more

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easily or not even try. And I want to talk a

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little bit about that because if you're trying

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to launch something, you want to be an entrepreneur

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or you're faced with like new challenges at school

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or work, this really becomes an issue if you

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give up more easily or you don't even try. So

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the giving up easily, it's I'm trying to do everything

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perfectly and I'm spending so much time and energy

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on all the little details that maybe aren't as

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important in the bigger picture. I'm overworking

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myself and I'm burning out because I'm doing

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too much too soon. And I'm in it for the sprint

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when really I need to be in it for the marathon.

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That's where it's more likely to just give up,

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right? It's that bit of that all or nothing like,

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oh, I tried it, didn't work, throw my hands up

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in the air and give up. And so I'll see this

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with a lot of perfectionists who will start and

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stop a lot of projects. They've got a lot of

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things going on, but not one thing is actually

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finished and taken through to completion. The

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other one is just not trying. There's this fear

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of taking a risk of putting myself out there

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because the brain is like. There are so many

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ads these days, wherever you go, there are ads

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notes. Now let's get back to the show. Like,

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what if I fail? What if I fall flat on my face

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and then it's proof? Everyone's going to point

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and laugh at me and see, I knew you couldn't

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do it. See, I knew you weren't good enough. See,

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I knew you weren't cut out for this. And so there's

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a part of us that's like, I don't want to wait

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to find out if that's true. So I'm not even going

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to try. I'm not going to put my hat in the ring

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and I'm just going to sit here and play small.

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I just wanted to throw that out. If you find

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yourself giving up easily or not taking risks,

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not trying because you are afraid of failing,

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you might be a little bit of a perfectionist.

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So how can people combat being a perfectionist?

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What are some ways? Because I think it would

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help me and my listeners to figure out how to

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combat ways. I definitely need it in the next

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few weeks because I'm feeling burned out already.

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So the first way is I always like to kind of

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remind people, you need to learn to recognize

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when you're falling into that all or nothing

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pattern. So the first step is you got to recognize

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it because if you don't know what's happening,

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then you can't do anything to change it. And

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so it takes a little bit of practice, but really

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look at the different areas of your life. Am

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I approaching this of like, I got to go all in.

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And so I'll see this with health changes, right?

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I want to get healthy. I want to lose weight.

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So I got to go to the gym every day and I got

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to drink a green smoothie every morning and I

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got to take all these supplements and I got to

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cook healthy and I got to cut out sugar and I

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got to do it all. And I do it all for three days

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and now I'm overwhelmed and tired and I don't

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do anything at all. And I stop. All right. That's

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that all to nothing is I'm telling myself I have

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to do it all just perfectly. And when it comes,

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it becomes too much. kind of fall off the wagon

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and give up. I'll see this among dieters like,

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oh, I, you know, I cheated. I fell off my diet.

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Well, the whole day is gone. It's like, that's

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all or nothing. Just because you, you know, had

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one meal off plan, you don't have to throw out

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the whole day. You can get back on track. So

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just notice this all or nothing pattern coming

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up for you because then the challenge becomes.

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What is that middle zone? You know, if you have

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all or nothing, black and white, what's that?

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I call it the gray area in between. So how can

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I break things down into smaller steps instead

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of saying I have to do the entire term paper?

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I got to do it all and I got to do it just right.

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And I'm going to be working day and night for

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the next two weeks because this paper is due

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next Friday. OK, I'm doing all or nothing again.

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How do I break this down? It's like, you know

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what? I'm just, I'm going to write one paragraph

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with two references. You got to be very specific.

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You break it down and you start little step by

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step. It's easier said than done. I know this

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is why it helps to have a friend, someone who

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can hold you accountable to kind of be a little

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bit of that sounding board of like, okay, I'm

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doing this again and they can call you out on

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it. But the idea here is you're learning to focus

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on. process. That gray area, I call it the process.

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It's not about turning in the term paper and

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getting the A plus. It's about what you're learning

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during the process. It's not about getting completely

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ripped and shredded in the gym. It's about showing

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yourself that you can be consistent and that

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you can show up for yourself and take care of

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your body little by little, day by day. And so

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the more that you can learn to enjoy the process

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and the journey and the less you're kind of removing

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yourself from like, but I got to get this done

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that right that I got to do it all and I got

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to do it all now. The less stressed you're going

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to be. So I'm going to slow down right there.

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I want to check in with you because I got a lot

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of other tips to share. Oh, well, well, there's

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a I just have to add something real quick there.

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Like. I, about that gray area about, I know for

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myself, like, I've been noticing a little, when

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you were saying that, I've been kind of just,

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I was obviously listening, but I was also, like,

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thinking in my head of, like, I always start

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my mornings out and everything, and, like, when

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I get out of bed, and, like, in the morning after

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i work out and everything i start like checking

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uh like just pretty much stupid stuff like i

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uh i um for instance like i keep on thinking

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as i uh like for i'm gonna give you like a really

00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.279
crazy example um like i always keep checking

00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.799
to see where crazy fitness guy is on in Google

00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:11.420
search just to see, um, it was like, Oh, it's

00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:14.599
like, am I doing well here? And I was like, did

00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:17.940
Google give me any, some, any knowledge graphs

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or anything? And I'm like, we are audio stack

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00:24:52.299 --> 00:24:55.779
like I have no control over this. I can point

00:24:55.779 --> 00:24:58.240
Google in the right direction. They can show

00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:01.039
whatever they want to show. And I kind of feel

00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:06.970
like and I. And I kind of forgot how long it

00:25:06.970 --> 00:25:12.650
has taken Crazy Fitness Guy to get to start ranking

00:25:12.650 --> 00:25:17.630
for its own brand name. And I'm trying to do

00:25:17.630 --> 00:25:22.369
that for my own name. And where I am in Google

00:25:22.369 --> 00:25:26.990
is like not in the worst possible situation at

00:25:26.990 --> 00:25:31.230
all. It is like I feel like I'm more paying attention

00:25:31.230 --> 00:25:35.109
to like... ah as i wish this was done i wish

00:25:35.109 --> 00:25:38.450
i was on top of the world and people know me

00:25:38.450 --> 00:25:42.049
by name yeah i'm not enjoying the journey and

00:25:42.049 --> 00:25:45.490
and when you said that it kind of hit that spot

00:25:45.490 --> 00:25:47.569
right for me right there and then it was like

00:25:47.569 --> 00:25:50.329
well i think that's where all my stress is right

00:25:50.329 --> 00:25:53.410
there and like i i know the school is stressing

00:25:53.410 --> 00:25:56.230
me out but i mean okay i'm in a good spot of

00:25:56.230 --> 00:25:59.150
a school but i mean keep on seeing myself doing

00:25:59.150 --> 00:26:02.430
this every single day and i'm like Why am I doing

00:26:02.430 --> 00:26:04.710
this? And it's like, Google doesn't change anything

00:26:04.710 --> 00:26:08.250
overnight. And if they do, it's either slightly

00:26:08.250 --> 00:26:13.789
or really bad if I screw something up. But it's

00:26:13.789 --> 00:26:17.650
never just like, you're famous overnight. Be

00:26:17.650 --> 00:26:21.029
nice. It would be nice, right? But I mean, you

00:26:21.029 --> 00:26:23.789
really hit the nail on the head there. It's just,

00:26:23.849 --> 00:26:27.329
I just want to be on top of Google and everybody

00:26:27.329 --> 00:26:29.730
know my name. And if I could just get there,

00:26:29.769 --> 00:26:33.029
then things will be okay. unfortunately, like

00:26:33.029 --> 00:26:35.250
if you don't enjoy the journey, when you get

00:26:35.250 --> 00:26:38.109
there, you're going to be like, well, but now

00:26:38.109 --> 00:26:41.670
I need to be on top of YouTube because, and then

00:26:41.670 --> 00:26:43.549
when you get there, it's like, well, now I need

00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:45.769
to be on the New York. There's always going to

00:26:45.769 --> 00:26:49.829
be something else, right? I can't, I got to find

00:26:49.829 --> 00:26:51.430
the book. I can't remember what book it was.

00:26:51.509 --> 00:26:54.049
I read it in, but it shared the story of a college

00:26:54.049 --> 00:26:57.609
professor who was highly decorated, all kinds

00:26:57.609 --> 00:27:01.150
of publications and books. um very well respected

00:27:01.150 --> 00:27:04.230
but feeling down and a bit depressed and the

00:27:04.230 --> 00:27:06.589
sense of being like i don't have a nobel prize

00:27:06.589 --> 00:27:09.069
like my colleague down the hall right it's like

00:27:09.069 --> 00:27:11.329
no matter how much you've achieved like he still

00:27:11.329 --> 00:27:13.710
felt bad and not good enough because he didn't

00:27:13.710 --> 00:27:16.450
have a nobel prize and it's like you ask anyone

00:27:16.450 --> 00:27:19.450
else and anyone else would be like so happy to

00:27:19.450 --> 00:27:21.690
have achieved even a fraction of what you have

00:27:21.690 --> 00:27:26.200
but when we're in that mindset When I get this

00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.200
or I get there, then things will be better. And

00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.799
you don't enjoy the process, the journey. When

00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.920
you get there, guess what? The exact same problems

00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.200
are going to be right there along with you. Yeah,

00:27:36.259 --> 00:27:38.720
I kind of think that, you know, instead of calling

00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:43.160
it like the gray matter of fact, I think that

00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.059
we should call it like the Sheldon Cooper effect

00:27:45.059 --> 00:27:47.079
from the Big Bang Theory. The Sheldon Cooper

00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:52.059
effect, yes, absolutely. And I think, you know,

00:27:52.059 --> 00:27:54.539
just in terms of character development, I think

00:27:54.539 --> 00:27:57.099
they did a really good job in showing his character,

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learning to embrace the process and the journey

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of having friends and relationships along the

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way. And not just being so hyper focused on work

00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.720
and getting his Nobel Prize. So when you're looking

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for like friends to hold you accountable, who

00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:20.700
would you? like what would you look have them

00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:25.079
how could they possibly help because I know sometimes

00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.180
when I talk to my parents it is like oh whatever

00:28:28.180 --> 00:28:31.819
this is really important and it's like kind of

00:28:31.819 --> 00:28:37.859
really really important so it depends on what

00:28:37.859 --> 00:28:40.599
it is you're trying to achieve but there's lots

00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:42.500
of different ways like for example for me when

00:28:42.500 --> 00:28:46.200
I was starting my business I joined a group of

00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.940
other people who were doing solopreneurs right

00:28:48.940 --> 00:28:50.740
people just starting their own businesses and

00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:53.259
we were all doing very different businesses but

00:28:53.259 --> 00:28:55.440
because we were on a similar journey we could

00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.339
call each other out on like they were able to

00:28:57.339 --> 00:29:00.359
call like Camilla who cares about the effing

00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:02.940
funnel if you're not actually talking to anyone

00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.240
There's no point in having a perfect funnel like

00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.599
they were able to call me out on. You're trying

00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.039
to get this so perfectly laid out, but you actually

00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.619
haven't talked to someone like you're missing

00:29:13.619 --> 00:29:16.680
the whole point. And so it's helpful to have

00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.480
a group of people if it's something very specific,

00:29:19.700 --> 00:29:24.160
like starting a business or a blog, you know,

00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.960
even in school, if it's a specific subject area.

00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:31.990
But in general, if it's, you know. I'm thinking

00:29:31.990 --> 00:29:34.250
friends and family, you do want to get someone

00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:36.769
who you can trust and you feel safe with. I think

00:29:36.769 --> 00:29:39.349
that that's one of the key things is this needs

00:29:39.349 --> 00:29:42.289
to be a safe person because sometimes people

00:29:42.289 --> 00:29:45.569
do say hurtful things. And so we need, we need

00:29:45.569 --> 00:29:47.490
to know that we're talking to someone who genuinely

00:29:47.490 --> 00:29:50.210
cares about us and has our back because when

00:29:50.210 --> 00:29:52.930
they call us out on something, it means it's

00:29:52.930 --> 00:29:58.390
more meaningful. And someone who like what you

00:29:58.390 --> 00:30:02.660
shared is You know, I keep checking Google every

00:30:02.660 --> 00:30:06.240
day and trying to see where my ranking is. And

00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.420
my immediate thought is, what are you making

00:30:08.420 --> 00:30:10.900
it mean? Are you making it mean something about

00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:14.259
you? So if you have a friend who can have that

00:30:14.259 --> 00:30:17.940
conversation with you at that level, you are

00:30:17.940 --> 00:30:21.099
so many miles ahead of everyone else in being

00:30:21.099 --> 00:30:23.519
able to have that sounding board and that person

00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:27.279
that you can turn to. And if you don't have that

00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.119
in your life, there's so many groups that kind

00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.660
of create and form those relationships out there.

00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.019
Well, I definitely have. I think there's like

00:30:37.019 --> 00:30:47.240
a lot of names come to mind. And but yeah, definitely.

00:30:49.150 --> 00:30:51.250
I can't believe I finally hit the nail on the

00:30:51.250 --> 00:30:54.109
head. Even out there writing a lot of stuff in

00:30:54.109 --> 00:30:57.829
my journal during the last few months, I still

00:30:57.829 --> 00:31:01.710
can put the puzzle pieces together. But I was

00:31:01.710 --> 00:31:03.750
like, you know, the reason I want to get on top

00:31:03.750 --> 00:31:06.630
of Google is because, like, you see all these

00:31:06.630 --> 00:31:08.930
celebrities out there. No, I'm not comparing

00:31:08.930 --> 00:31:11.250
myself to a celebrity by any means because I'm

00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:16.390
not. I'm not just. That's what we see. But I

00:31:16.390 --> 00:31:20.710
wanted to have my name in the knowledge graph

00:31:20.710 --> 00:31:25.210
to give myself more authority. I mean, not authority

00:31:25.210 --> 00:31:28.450
in a bad way, but just like, oh, he's actually

00:31:28.450 --> 00:31:32.890
a well -known public speaker, a motivational

00:31:32.890 --> 00:31:37.890
speaker. And here's a little bio of myself. And

00:31:37.890 --> 00:31:41.390
I know I can't control any of that, but it just

00:31:41.390 --> 00:31:44.960
kind of makes me like. uh that's like only google

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.079
gets to show one they want me no shows i can

00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.160
persuade them but i can't do anything about it

00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:56.099
yeah and um this theme came up a few times it's

00:31:56.099 --> 00:31:59.079
that control right like i i hear you say i know

00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.079
i can't control that and that's what perfectionists

00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.339
right that will do it's like logically i know

00:32:04.339 --> 00:32:08.160
it but feeling like but i still want to try i

00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.619
know i can't control what they think of me But

00:32:10.619 --> 00:32:12.440
I still want to try to control what they think

00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.740
of me by doing everything just right and just

00:32:14.740 --> 00:32:16.299
great and perfectly. And they're going to be

00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:19.980
like, wow, this is amazing. And that's one of

00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:22.779
the traps that perfectionists fall into. And

00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:25.359
so one of the ways that I will conceptualize

00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.920
perfectionism is it's about control. It's you're

00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:30.920
trying to control the outcome, right? If I do

00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:32.619
everything just right, then it's going to be

00:32:32.619 --> 00:32:34.559
just fine. And I don't need to worry, right?

00:32:34.619 --> 00:32:36.819
This is why perfectionists have a hard time delegating.

00:32:37.500 --> 00:32:39.980
It's about controlling how other people see us.

00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:42.400
If I don't make any mistakes and everything is

00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.579
perfect, then no one's going to judge me or criticize

00:32:44.579 --> 00:32:46.799
me and they're going to think I'm awesome, right?

00:32:47.059 --> 00:32:51.119
And it's about controlling my own feelings. If

00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.839
I do everything and I know it's good enough and

00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.099
I'm on it, then I don't have to like be anxious

00:32:56.099 --> 00:32:58.900
and I don't have to be stressed because I know

00:32:58.900 --> 00:33:02.299
I'm doing everything. So there's nothing that

00:33:02.299 --> 00:33:05.779
a perfectionist hates more than not being in

00:33:05.779 --> 00:33:08.900
control. not having that control and kind of

00:33:08.900 --> 00:33:12.480
being in the state of uncertainty. And this is

00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.359
where a lot of people will kind of double down

00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.119
on their perfectionism in other areas when something

00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.180
is out of their control. And that's why like

00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:22.839
one of my other tips that I'll always ask people

00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:24.880
this question, and you got to learn to ask yourself

00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.819
this question is, what am I making this mean?

00:33:28.380 --> 00:33:31.660
Right? I keep checking the Google rankings. What

00:33:31.660 --> 00:33:34.079
am I making it mean about myself? I'm being really

00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.779
honest. What's the meaning? Because hopefully

00:33:37.779 --> 00:33:40.279
you'll learn to get to this place where you can

00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.180
accept like, this is something that's out of

00:33:42.180 --> 00:33:45.400
my control. I need to focus on what I can control.

00:33:45.619 --> 00:33:47.660
And that second piece that we've been talking

00:33:47.660 --> 00:33:49.279
about, I need to learn to enjoy the journey,

00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:56.539
enjoy the process while I'm at it. And so I was

00:33:56.539 --> 00:34:00.369
curious, how do you know when you start? feeling

00:34:00.369 --> 00:34:03.430
like you're getting burnt out like i know i'm

00:34:03.430 --> 00:34:06.609
feeling kind of burnt out not not from this or

00:34:06.609 --> 00:34:09.929
anything at all uh the podcast interview it's

00:34:09.929 --> 00:34:16.849
more like i don't know let's say uh just because

00:34:16.849 --> 00:34:21.349
i'm doing so many different tasks like uh schoolwork

00:34:21.349 --> 00:34:28.300
homework um blogging I won't say podcasting because

00:34:28.300 --> 00:34:31.800
I enjoyed that, but the blogging, editing and

00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:36.679
writing more papers, fun as heck. Yeah. So that,

00:34:36.860 --> 00:34:39.139
oh my gosh, I wish I had an easy answer for that

00:34:39.139 --> 00:34:41.800
because that's one of the problems that perfectionists

00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.719
struggle with is not knowing when to stop. Right?

00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.380
You just you keep doing things, you keep revising

00:34:47.380 --> 00:34:49.500
and learning and preparing and doing more. And

00:34:49.500 --> 00:34:51.559
even after you did something, you keep thinking

00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:53.079
over and over about how you could have done it

00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.679
better, you just don't know when to stop. And

00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.340
that process of how do I know that I am starting

00:34:59.340 --> 00:35:02.159
to burn out like this is starting to be too much.

00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.789
So It's a bit of a trial and error where you

00:35:06.789 --> 00:35:10.150
need to kind of look at your day to day and start

00:35:10.150 --> 00:35:12.489
to judge, like, when am I starting to experience

00:35:12.489 --> 00:35:17.949
consequences? So if you're starting to turn in

00:35:17.949 --> 00:35:20.550
assignments at school late because you put too

00:35:20.550 --> 00:35:22.610
much on your plate and you don't have time to

00:35:22.610 --> 00:35:25.469
get to it, if you're starting to flake out on

00:35:25.469 --> 00:35:28.789
commitments or appointments, if you're not sleeping

00:35:28.789 --> 00:35:31.630
well. Right. Your sleep cycle is completely out

00:35:31.630 --> 00:35:35.070
of whack. Or maybe you're no longer taking the

00:35:35.070 --> 00:35:38.190
time to do the cooking and the meal prep or the

00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:40.329
workout that you used to do regularly. So it's

00:35:40.329 --> 00:35:43.010
going to be different for everyone. But the idea

00:35:43.010 --> 00:35:45.949
here is you got to take stock of your day to

00:35:45.949 --> 00:35:48.849
day and try to figure out trial and error. I

00:35:48.849 --> 00:35:51.369
was like, so for me, I learned, for example,

00:35:51.449 --> 00:35:56.110
that when I start going to bed later and later.

00:35:56.570 --> 00:35:59.269
Like that's one of my personal red flags that

00:35:59.269 --> 00:36:01.750
I'm doing too much. If I'm going to bed after

00:36:01.750 --> 00:36:05.929
midnight, I know from experience that after about

00:36:05.929 --> 00:36:08.369
two weeks, I'm entering burnout zone where I'm

00:36:08.369 --> 00:36:10.949
just short and snappy and irritable with everyone

00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:14.090
around me. So I watch out for that. If my schedule

00:36:14.090 --> 00:36:16.070
is getting so out of hand that I'm going to bed

00:36:16.070 --> 00:36:18.389
after midnight, if I keep that up, I'm going

00:36:18.389 --> 00:36:20.849
to burn out. So I need to kind of slow down and

00:36:20.849 --> 00:36:24.909
reassess. I had another client. she shared that

00:36:24.909 --> 00:36:27.469
like her immediate sign was the more she started

00:36:27.469 --> 00:36:29.969
yelling at her kids. Like that was her sign.

00:36:30.070 --> 00:36:32.369
Like she's yelling at her kids because she's

00:36:32.369 --> 00:36:35.210
already so stressed and so tired with everything

00:36:35.210 --> 00:36:38.050
else she's keeping up with that she has less

00:36:38.050 --> 00:36:42.469
patience. And so that was her sign. There you

00:36:42.469 --> 00:36:46.010
go, right? Who is a little bit of a perfectionist

00:36:46.010 --> 00:36:50.030
that you learn from? And so - The vicious cycle.

00:36:50.369 --> 00:36:52.789
It is a vicious cycle. And so, but that's the

00:36:52.789 --> 00:36:55.320
thing is like, you know, how do I know I'm going,

00:36:55.420 --> 00:36:57.500
I'm headed towards burnout, it's going to be

00:36:57.500 --> 00:37:00.619
different for each person. But it really requires

00:37:00.619 --> 00:37:03.699
you to take a look at your day to day life and

00:37:03.699 --> 00:37:05.739
start to pick up on these patterns of when I

00:37:05.739 --> 00:37:08.940
start to do this behavior, you know, shortly

00:37:08.940 --> 00:37:12.300
thereafter, I burn out. And it takes a bit of

00:37:12.300 --> 00:37:14.500
that trial and error. But you you you'll learn

00:37:14.500 --> 00:37:17.079
very quickly once you start paying attention

00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.599
to what's happening. So how long does it take

00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:27.239
for one to figure out that they're feeling burnout?

00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:33.199
Because I've had some days where the burnout

00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:38.199
started around like 5 .30ish, 6 o 'clock, around

00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.659
7 o 'clock. But sometimes it can also happen

00:37:41.659 --> 00:37:46.940
later or it could just happen from just 5 o 'clock

00:37:46.940 --> 00:37:51.059
to... nine o 'clock and 10 o 'clock and yeah.

00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.820
Yeah. You know, that's, that's one of the things

00:37:54.820 --> 00:37:57.239
that, um, I'm so glad you brought this up because

00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.199
I see this so often and I know I've done it myself

00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:06.039
is as a culture. Um, I'm making some assumptions

00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.079
here. I'm sorry if this isn't true for everyone.

00:38:09.380 --> 00:38:13.039
But I feel like we live in a culture that values

00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.659
work. It values that go, go, go, that go -getter,

00:38:16.659 --> 00:38:19.159
someone who's always moving forward and doing

00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:25.739
things. There are so many ads these days wherever

00:38:25.739 --> 00:38:29.159
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00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.500
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notes. Now let's get back to the show. In valuing

00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.760
always staying busy, we get disconnected. We

00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.920
get disconnected from our bodies, disconnected

00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:18.449
from our feelings. And so it is possible to kind

00:39:18.449 --> 00:39:21.329
of go through the whole day. And it's not until

00:39:21.329 --> 00:39:24.429
the moment you get home and you finally sit down

00:39:24.429 --> 00:39:27.849
that then you feel that wave crashing over you

00:39:27.849 --> 00:39:30.989
of stress and exhaustion. It's almost like you've

00:39:30.989 --> 00:39:33.210
been trying to run ahead of it the whole day

00:39:33.210 --> 00:39:36.130
by just staying busy enough. But when you finally

00:39:36.130 --> 00:39:38.510
slow down and you sit down to eat dinner and

00:39:38.510 --> 00:39:40.469
it's the end of the day, it just hits you like

00:39:40.469 --> 00:39:43.980
a brick wall. Because you weren't paying attention

00:39:43.980 --> 00:39:47.400
to your body and to your feelings and to your

00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.539
stress throughout the day. You were kind of disconnected.

00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.400
I'm not saying you do this. I'm just saying this

00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.380
is a pattern that I see quite often. And so the

00:39:57.380 --> 00:40:02.920
bigger the disconnect, the more surprising the

00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.440
overwhelm will hit you when it does. the part

00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.619
of the process there is actually learning to

00:40:09.619 --> 00:40:12.019
be more mindful, more present, more connected

00:40:12.019 --> 00:40:16.320
with the body throughout the day. Oh, that sounds

00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:23.380
like me. It sounded like me. Yesterday, I was

00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:28.239
working on, actually, I wasn't working on anything.

00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:36.179
I was, yesterday was Tuesday. I was For a reason,

00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:42.300
I had an idea to post a specific post on LinkedIn.

00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.599
And I was like, would this even be a good fit

00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:50.079
for LinkedIn? And I started Googling just random

00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:54.039
questions like, what is an acceptable post for

00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.000
LinkedIn? Because everybody's like, oh, it's

00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.119
business -like. You shouldn't post business stuff.

00:41:00.260 --> 00:41:02.420
But then other people say, post personal stuff.

00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:08.199
Not too personal stuff, but just share some small

00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:12.039
achievements of you and your brand. And I'm like,

00:41:12.219 --> 00:41:16.199
yikes. And then I started doing this around 7

00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:20.280
o 'clock. And all of a sudden, I started noticing

00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.920
that time was slipping away. And at the time,

00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.219
it was at 8 .30. And I was like, That sucks.

00:41:27.579 --> 00:41:29.900
I just raised it now in 30 freaking minutes.

00:41:31.420 --> 00:41:36.000
I mean, that is such a great example of what

00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.119
perfectionists do, right? I call it going down

00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:41.659
the rabbit hole, right? Should I post this on

00:41:41.659 --> 00:41:45.599
LinkedIn? A non -perfectionist would post and

00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.679
find out, well, that didn't work. Let me change

00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.719
it. a perfectionist starts going down the rabbit

00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:52.579
hole of I got to research this and what's the

00:41:52.579 --> 00:41:54.719
right post and oh I need to have this this and

00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.559
this and you need to get this brand message okay

00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:58.400
now I need to create the perfect post and I got

00:41:58.400 --> 00:41:59.860
to get the languaging right now I got to get

00:41:59.860 --> 00:42:02.500
just the right image and hours later you're like

00:42:02.500 --> 00:42:05.820
oh my gosh all that time and energy and now I

00:42:05.820 --> 00:42:09.360
am a bit tired and it's like in the long run

00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.539
it's the non -perfectionist who's just acting

00:42:12.539 --> 00:42:15.940
taking action and figuring out what works doesn't

00:42:15.940 --> 00:42:19.480
work adjusting to that and moving on they actually

00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.380
end up moving forward more quickly than a perfectionist

00:42:23.380 --> 00:42:31.900
does jeez oh my goodness i'm i tell you so how

00:42:31.900 --> 00:42:36.679
could somebody get rid of um so in your opinion

00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:40.949
how could somebody like what is like the best

00:42:40.949 --> 00:42:44.670
ways to get rid of perfectionist or like very

00:42:44.670 --> 00:42:47.530
limited like yeah is it writing in a journal

00:42:47.530 --> 00:42:51.949
or yeah it's you know a perfectionism is very

00:42:51.949 --> 00:42:55.809
much an internal experience it's how we our brains

00:42:55.809 --> 00:42:58.929
our minds our thoughts work and so writing in

00:42:58.929 --> 00:43:01.610
a journal is definitely a good way to start to

00:43:01.610 --> 00:43:04.329
kind of become more aware of how this is showing

00:43:04.329 --> 00:43:07.929
up in your day -to -day if you're working with

00:43:07.929 --> 00:43:10.619
a coach or someone or a friend that you trust,

00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:13.619
they can call you out on certain thoughts. Because

00:43:13.619 --> 00:43:16.900
you'll say like, I have to get this right. You

00:43:16.900 --> 00:43:18.500
mentioned your parents sometimes like, well,

00:43:18.539 --> 00:43:20.960
why is this so important? Like when other people

00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:22.940
are saying those things like that, those are

00:43:22.940 --> 00:43:25.119
those little checkpoint moments that are a reminder

00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:27.219
for us to step back and answer for ourselves.

00:43:27.739 --> 00:43:30.880
Why am I doing this? Why is this so important?

00:43:31.380 --> 00:43:33.739
So writing that out in the journal. And then

00:43:33.739 --> 00:43:35.980
that second piece of why am I doing this? Why

00:43:35.980 --> 00:43:38.559
am I so important? I tell all the perfectionists

00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:40.460
I work with, you need to kind of take a step

00:43:40.460 --> 00:43:43.699
back and look at your values. What is it that

00:43:43.699 --> 00:43:47.900
you value, right? It's like, I value making a

00:43:47.900 --> 00:43:50.659
hundred million dollars. I'm like, okay, why?

00:43:51.260 --> 00:43:56.960
Why is that of value to you? It's a good number.

00:43:57.019 --> 00:43:59.719
I'm like, well, because if I had that much money,

00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:03.440
then I would have the freedom and control to

00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:06.300
travel and to spend more time with my family.

00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.300
I'm like, okay, now we're getting closer to the

00:44:09.300 --> 00:44:11.599
core value. It's not about having the $100 million.

00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.519
It's I believe that if I get that figure, I will

00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.699
be able to have more time to travel and spend

00:44:17.699 --> 00:44:20.699
with my family. So the true value there isn't

00:44:20.699 --> 00:44:24.099
the dollar figure. It's time to travel and time

00:44:24.099 --> 00:44:27.260
with my family. So it takes a little bit of work

00:44:27.260 --> 00:44:29.219
and self -reflection, but you want to get at

00:44:29.219 --> 00:44:32.920
those core values. Because then when you find

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yourself spinning your wheels in that perfectionism

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and not knowing when to stop and not being able

00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.559
to let go, that's your checkpoint, right? Why

00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:44.760
am I doing this? And if your why does not line

00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.519
up with your value, that's a sign that maybe

00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:54.969
you need to stop or slow down or step back. Like

00:44:54.969 --> 00:44:58.710
my parents, even though they told me, I was like,

00:44:58.849 --> 00:45:02.289
well, why is this important? Perhaps those are

00:45:02.289 --> 00:45:09.170
check marks that I don't even know why I'm doing

00:45:09.170 --> 00:45:13.570
some of the stuff I do. But sometimes I don't

00:45:13.570 --> 00:45:19.760
think I could use them as someone I could. hold

00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:21.860
me accountable, because sometimes they start

00:45:21.860 --> 00:45:24.239
agreeing with me, it's like, oh, then just come,

00:45:24.420 --> 00:45:27.079
I mean, not like in a bad way, but it's just

00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:29.860
like, yeah, it's like, oh, well, just finish

00:45:29.860 --> 00:45:31.659
that one project and be done, and it's like,

00:45:31.780 --> 00:45:35.980
that's such great insight, right, oh, that's

00:45:35.980 --> 00:45:38.280
such great insight, and that's a good reminder,

00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:41.199
you know, we might need more, it's best to have

00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:43.760
more than one person, right, because different

00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.420
people will react to different things, they'll

00:45:46.420 --> 00:45:48.400
ask us different questions, different perspectives.

00:45:49.289 --> 00:45:52.190
And certain friends and families might collude

00:45:52.190 --> 00:45:56.050
with us. I see this especially in families where

00:45:56.050 --> 00:45:58.210
they start agreeing with us too much. So maybe

00:45:58.210 --> 00:46:00.789
I need someone else to kind of help me take a

00:46:00.789 --> 00:46:04.750
step back and look at the bigger picture. So

00:46:04.750 --> 00:46:10.349
before we wrap up, where can people find you?

00:46:11.230 --> 00:46:15.170
Yes, I am on Instagram and Facebook and YouTube.

00:46:15.349 --> 00:46:19.210
So just look for at Dr. Camilla Williams. That's

00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:22.869
Camilla with one L. It's Portuguese. It's okay.

00:46:23.510 --> 00:46:27.150
But yeah, I try to post regularly on Instagram,

00:46:27.329 --> 00:46:30.090
just tip videos. If you guys have any questions

00:46:30.090 --> 00:46:33.090
or follow up, please find me there. I'd love

00:46:33.090 --> 00:46:37.210
to answer it. And we definitely should stay in

00:46:37.210 --> 00:46:40.400
touch because maybe you can give me some. Tips?

00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.420
Yeah, I'd love to come back. I'm always forgiving

00:46:43.420 --> 00:46:46.159
tips and pointers. You know, I'm just, you know,

00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:48.500
being mindful. It's like tips and pointers are

00:46:48.500 --> 00:46:51.980
nice, but it's always easier said than done.

00:46:52.059 --> 00:46:54.059
It's when it comes down to the day -to -day work

00:46:54.059 --> 00:46:55.920
and the consistency that that's where we see

00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:59.500
the real change. Do you have any last minute

00:46:59.500 --> 00:47:05.679
words before we leave? Have a little bit of self

00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:09.260
-compassion. Your perfectionism comes from a

00:47:09.260 --> 00:47:12.559
place of wanting to protect yourself and take

00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.639
care of yourself. So don't beat yourself up for

00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:17.900
that. There's nothing wrong with it. Just recognize

00:47:17.900 --> 00:47:21.300
it, that it was serving a purpose. And it's usually

00:47:21.300 --> 00:47:23.380
trying to protect us from getting hurt or getting

00:47:23.380 --> 00:47:25.940
our feelings hurt. And just acknowledge that

00:47:25.940 --> 00:47:28.519
and then just take a step back and think through

00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.880
how is it serving you and how is it no longer

00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.239
serving you? And that's a good place to start.

00:47:34.539 --> 00:47:38.619
That's great. Well, it was nice having you on.

00:47:38.780 --> 00:47:44.659
And I definitely found this was very, very helpful.

00:47:45.260 --> 00:47:47.659
And I hope it's very helpful to my listeners.

00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:56.019
Because I definitely feel better. And I definitely

00:47:56.019 --> 00:48:00.199
would love just to throw my phone out the window

00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:06.710
tonight. because then I won't stop checking Google

00:48:06.710 --> 00:48:11.489
and everything else. And I probably should throw

00:48:11.489 --> 00:48:14.650
out my Google Home Mini because that's going

00:48:14.650 --> 00:48:17.110
to, because I can just ask her questions too.

00:48:19.050 --> 00:48:22.449
Not to solve, lose the technology. Oh, crap.

00:48:23.329 --> 00:48:25.949
I should have thought this sooner. Well, again,

00:48:26.050 --> 00:48:28.530
thanks for coming on. You're welcome. Thank you.

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