Podcasting Passion: Insights, Rants, and Monetization Strategies

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I don't know about you, but I believe and think

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that the internet should be a safer place. Well,

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what if I told you that there's a tool that can

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do just that? A safer internet where you don't

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have to monitor every single thing that your

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kids do or that you stumble across, whether it's

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a fake site or not a fake site. This tool is

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called BlockP. It blocks adult websites, but

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also it blocks those fake websites that you might

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say, hey, this domain is for sale, and hackers

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try to hack all that information or try to scam

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people out of the information. It also protects,

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and it uses AI to protect against other malicious

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stuff and other garbage that people may stumble

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across the web. Anyway, I thought to myself the

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other day, Why is the internet not a safer place?

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Well, it's because there's money involved. And

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some kind of certain content drives more money.

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Everything has to do with money. And what I like

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about this tool is that it uses... AI built into

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the tool so there's no false positives. And it's

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the only tool that lets you password set a Chrome

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extension or even an Android app settings, et

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cetera, so you can bypass it easily. Give it

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a try. Go to BlockP and download on Google Play

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or iOS or on your web browser, on whatever web

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browser you use, and let them know what you think

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of the tool. They always listen to your feedback,

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etc. Great company, and they have great things

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ahead of them, etc. Take a test one, check it

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out. It's free. And let me know what you think.

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And it's called Black P. Go check him out. Welcome

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to Crazy Fitness Guy Healthy Living Podcast,

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where we strive to motivate people who are on

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the autism spectrum to live healthy lifestyles.

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If you think this podcast is only for people

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who are autistic, then think again. Whether you

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are autistic or not, we have a mix of content

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from healthy living to everything in between

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that makes up a balanced and healthy life. Autism

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is our backbone and we strive to support the

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autism community by motivating, inspiring, and

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educating everyone about what autism is. Please

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welcome your host, Jimmy Clare, who is a motivational

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speaker, autism advocate, author, and founder

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of crazyfitnessguide .com. Weekly motivation.

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That has been listened to all over the world.

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Listen to our podcast on all the major platforms.

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Tune in to listen and watch every week. We cover

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everything that is healthy living. We promote

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healthy living through autistic artists. Hosted

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by Jimmy Clare, who is a motivational speaker

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and autism advocate. Jimmy has been featured

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in many publications around the world. This is

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the weekly motivation with Crazy Fitness Guy.

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Welcome to another episode of Crazy Fitness Guy.

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I'm just going to say right off the bat. There's

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no microphone at the moment, and I'm just using

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my computer's microphone. My microphone stand

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is just laying on the table, useless. I got one

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that's coming on Monday, hopefully. Come on,

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Amazon, give me my new microphone stand. I got

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a freestanding one this time, because the one

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that attaches to my desk just doesn't work anymore.

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What a piece of garbage. If I can find it in

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my catalog, it's a one -star review. Zero, if

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I can. But today's guest, I'm so looking forward

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to having him on today, especially because his

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voice sounds a lot better than mine. Mine sounds

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like nails on a chalkboard. And I said that on

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his podcast, too. And he's an Indiana Hoosiers

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fan, which I am. fame of Indiana as well unless

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if they're playing against Duke and I'm an all

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out Duke fan which I've been an all out Duke

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fan since I was pretty much since the day I was

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born and go Duke by the way and but if Duke played

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Indiana that's I hope I get at some point I mean,

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if they played against them this year, they would

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literally destroy their basketball team. I mean,

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if anybody saw them play against Auburn this

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past week, holy crap. Well, you know, we'll get

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into that a little bit later, but anything goes

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off on this show, so here we go. Today, my guest

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is the host of a great podcast called The Podcaster

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Nation, and I'm so looking forward to it. And

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being here, we're going to be talking about podcasting,

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a little bit about sports, and a little bit about

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other things. You never know where the show goes.

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Well, mostly the time you know where the show

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goes, but nothing's off the books. Except for

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five major topics that I never go there, as you

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all know. But anyway, let's welcome him now to

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Crazy Fitness Guy Health and Wellness Podcast.

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I speak with my vision with Crazy Fitness Guy.

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And I promise I cannot, I can't promise I won't

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go on any rants. So that's what we do here. How

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are you doing, Jimmy? Good, how are you doing?

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I'm wonderful. I'm really happy to be here. Thank

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you so much for having me on, man. I love your

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stuff. You know, you really need to become like

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a voiceover actor with that voice. You know,

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you keep giving me these compliments. I'm going

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to get a big head, man. Thank you. I appreciate

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that very much. I really do. Well, I already

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have a big head. Sounds good, man. And, you know,

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hey, I'm going to be watching for that Duke -IU

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game. You know, we'll see what happens, because

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IU's not going to have a great basketball season,

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I don't think, but they still might beat Duke,

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you never know. Did you see the Duke -Auburn

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game after, like, they were down by 11 points

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in the first three to five minutes in the game,

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and then Isaiah Evans... Came back, scored like

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six three -pointers in a row, and he is on fire.

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Nightman deep bench. Woo -hoo! That was nasty.

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I was like, oh, number two in this country? Bye!

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It's going to be a great game when it happens.

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It was 16 -2 in the first three minutes. Oh,

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they probably thought they were going to blood

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Duke out. I'm sure that's what they thought going

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into that game. I'm sure. I'm excited to watch

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the whole game, but I'm so glad to watch the

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first 20 minutes and it's like, lights out. So,

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my first... Well, actually, I'm going to say

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that that way. So, before we get started, can

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you tell us a little bit about who you are, what

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you do, how you got started, and why you got

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started? Sure. Yeah, I'd be happy to. My name

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is Rory Paquette, like you said. I'm the host

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of several podcasts, but our newest project,

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which is just exploding on the scene, is the

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one you mentioned, and that's the podcast, Master

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Nation. That is a podcast that is... for podcasters,

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about podcasters, and done by podcasters. So

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it gives podcasters like you, for instance, when

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you were on my show, the chance to talk about

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you and your story and why you do what you do.

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As podcasters, we're always on this side of the

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mic, and we never really get to be on the other

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side telling everybody who we are and what we're

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about and why we're doing what we're doing. So

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a lot of folks, when they do their first podcast

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episode, they'll tell their story. That's about

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it. And then after that, you're telling everybody

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else's story. So I wanted to create a community

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and a podcast where the feature was the podcaster,

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the person behind the mic. And it's been going

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beautifully. When I decided to start it, I put

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up one post in one networking group, the one

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that you responded to, actually. And we got 60,

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I think, seven responses right off the bat. Um,

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and so we just started, you know, meeting people

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and setting up interviews and rocking. Um, I

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ended up in the hospital for a little while and,

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uh, came back out of it and I just checked that

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post again. Uh, last night I was talking to my

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wife and I checked that post again and there's

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163, I think comments on there now. So we have

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another hundred podcasters that want to be interviewed.

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It's fantastic. It's just an unbelievable turnout.

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As far as who I am, I'm a father of three, husband

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of a very long time. My wife and I have been

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together for over 25 years, married, and several

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years when we weren't married yet. We were together

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three and a half years before she told me that

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my lease with the option to buy had expired and

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it was time to either purchase the existing model

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or go shopping for a new one. And so we took

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care of that. I made her Mrs. Paquette. Been

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happy as heck ever since. And I am a podcaster.

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I absolutely love podcasting. I love everything

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there is about podcasting. I love the people

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I get to meet, like you. And I love networking.

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I love the podcast scene. I just love everything

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about it. I think everybody who has a business,

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who works in a business, if you're in sales,

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it doesn't matter. Everybody should have a podcast

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because everybody has a story to tell. And that's

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just a belief of mine. And I just love it. I

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articles for my business. I mean, even getting

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the guest writers. I mean, I don't hate the guest

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writers. It is all the Google rankings and whatnot.

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I like seeing the podcast numbers have grown

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much better. The traffic from Google is just

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so sparse. I've seen too many colleagues of mine

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and different other Facebook groups. It was like

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my traffic plummeted and whatnot. I was like,

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you know what, Google? It's like, this is going

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to be illegal. Yeah, Google is not the friend

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of any podcaster, I don't think. I don't think

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Google is anybody's friend. No. It's more like

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the podcast directors are their friends and whatnot.

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There you go. Right. Oh, from the air. I don't

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think from the air because Google's like... You

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know what it's like when you're a podcaster.

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You're basically on your own, man. It's you against

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the world. It's you against all of the social

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medias. It's you against all the search engines.

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It doesn't matter how good you are at SEO or

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anything else. It's a fight. You know, there's

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millions of podcasts. And I saw something the

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other day that if you are... If you get past

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your 20th episode, you're in the top 50 % of

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podcasts. There you go. And if you get past like

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100 episodes, then I think you're like in the

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top 10 % of podcasts, just in terms of having

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the episodes and still doing it. Because people

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just don't last that long doing it, talking into

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the space, you know. You have to love it. Well,

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as we're speaking right now, I'm almost at, I'm

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close to 100. Yeah, you're getting there, man.

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You're right on the edge. So, you know, that

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brings me, I wanted to ask you, and I asked this

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in one of the groups I'm in, not on Facebook,

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or maybe it was in this other community on Podmatch,

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and I asked this. And so my question is, and

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I'm sorry if I butchered this question because

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I just remember the brawler. Topic of the question,

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I don't remember word for word I wrote, but not

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to say hypothetically, I'm not going to name

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any names, but this podcaster I wanted on my

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show, they said, let me know when you reach over

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100 plus podcast episodes. And I asked that personally,

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does it even matter? My show grows every single

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day. There's some people on the group who said

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yes, and some people said no. And then the guy,

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Alex, who runs Podmatch, said he used to do such

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a thing like that before he guest -shared to

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see how serious the person was. But, you know,

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if I was a guest to go back to see him when they

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started their podcast, so I started mine in...

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April 12, 2020, and I'm almost five years into

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it, I would likely guess that this person, meaning

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me, I would go guess on my own show due to that

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math. And it's like, okay, even though he's releasing

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monthly, I would say, well, he's been consistent

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monthly, so he's probably going to most likely

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stay. Well, I mean, just logically thinking,

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in your opinion, I'm just curious, what are your

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thoughts on that? Because, like, do you have

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to reach 100 episodes before somebody like that

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would consider going on your show? I saw that

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post. Oh, you're good. I will. Absolutely. You're

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not going to say name the names. I will not name

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any names out of respect for you. But that ticked

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me off because here's here's how I look at this

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whole thing. I've gone on podcasts as a guest

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that are in like episode five and they have maybe

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10 downloads per episode. OK, and they're like,

00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.200
hey, will you come on a podcast and talk about

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whatever it is? Of course, I'm going to go on

00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.629
that. podcast. Number one, I'm helping that podcaster.

00:16:52.789 --> 00:16:57.029
Okay. Number two, that podcaster is taking their

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time using their resources, using their platform,

00:17:01.289 --> 00:17:03.690
no matter how many people are on it. And no matter

00:17:03.690 --> 00:17:07.009
how many episodes they have to interview me,

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they're putting me out as an expert in whatever

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my field is. They're letting me talk my talk

00:17:13.769 --> 00:17:16.390
and they're sending me a link to it. When we're

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done, they're getting me a free piece of marketing

00:17:21.569 --> 00:17:26.289
for me and my business. I don't care if they've

00:17:26.289 --> 00:17:31.029
got five listeners. It's a free piece of marketing.

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I can take that and I can send that all over

00:17:34.470 --> 00:17:36.910
my own socials. I can send it to all of my own

00:17:36.910 --> 00:17:38.950
people. I can put it in my own email and my own

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mailing list and say, hey, check this out. This

00:17:41.769 --> 00:17:44.190
was a great interview. I got to talk about this

00:17:44.190 --> 00:17:47.789
topic and this topic. And it's a whole new person

00:17:47.789 --> 00:17:51.849
who's got me on their show. Okay. They're doing

00:17:51.849 --> 00:17:57.329
me a favor interviewing me. And when people turn

00:17:57.329 --> 00:17:59.230
that around and go, well, you know, you're not

00:17:59.230 --> 00:18:02.990
big enough for me to be on your show. I, I don't

00:18:02.990 --> 00:18:05.269
give that person a second thought. I'm like,

00:18:05.329 --> 00:18:06.910
you know what? Sorry. Feel that way. Move on.

00:18:06.990 --> 00:18:11.630
I will never call that person again either because

00:18:11.630 --> 00:18:15.099
they don't get it. They just don't get it. You

00:18:15.099 --> 00:18:16.920
know what I mean? They think that they're important

00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:19.420
enough to be in front of an audience of thousands

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or hundreds of thousands or whatever they think

00:18:21.819 --> 00:18:24.539
it is. You know what? Good luck. Go on Joe Rogan.

00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.839
Because whoever you think you are, mister, I

00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:29.900
want to wait until you get 100 episodes. I'll

00:18:29.900 --> 00:18:32.059
bet Joe Rogan's not knocking on your door asking

00:18:32.059 --> 00:18:36.440
you to be on his podcast. So I'm offering to

00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.839
do you a favor and you're being pompous. Pardon

00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:44.579
me, but, you know, fool like that. Goodbye. Have

00:18:44.579 --> 00:18:50.720
a great day. I agree. I agree with that because,

00:18:50.819 --> 00:18:55.380
you know, there's just so many people. Like,

00:18:55.380 --> 00:19:01.000
you know, when I look them up, they haven't been.

00:19:02.170 --> 00:19:04.789
on Joe Rogan's podcast. They haven't been on,

00:19:04.869 --> 00:19:08.109
like, Tony Robbins. Not that, like, I'm looking

00:19:08.109 --> 00:19:10.509
for those kind of guests. I mean, if I blame

00:19:10.509 --> 00:19:14.150
one, great, but my point is, it's like, yeah,

00:19:14.150 --> 00:19:16.349
just like what you said. It's like, hey, I'm

00:19:16.349 --> 00:19:19.589
doing you a favor by having you on the show.

00:19:20.529 --> 00:19:23.009
Just because I'm doing it monthly, I was like,

00:19:23.049 --> 00:19:25.890
perhaps have you thought that? I was like, well,

00:19:26.029 --> 00:19:29.670
I have a whole business to run by myself. I don't

00:19:29.670 --> 00:19:33.240
have a... A bunch of people are working for me.

00:19:33.339 --> 00:19:38.759
Holy crap. When I set up that schedule, I said

00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:45.400
to myself, okay, can I do this weekly? No. I

00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:49.680
was like, can I be more consistent monthly? I

00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:55.019
said, yeah. Because I know I'm going to be keynote

00:19:55.019 --> 00:19:58.950
speaking. I had to pitch myself because I'm not

00:19:58.950 --> 00:20:02.509
like a name brand like Lewis Howes or Tony Robbins.

00:20:02.890 --> 00:20:06.210
It's not like, hey, here's Jimmy Clare. Yes,

00:20:06.250 --> 00:20:08.529
I'm going to hire this guy. I had to go market

00:20:08.529 --> 00:20:15.950
myself. I don't have somebody to do that for

00:20:15.950 --> 00:20:20.309
me. Be nice. Yeah, you're doing exactly right.

00:20:20.650 --> 00:20:25.970
You're doing exactly right. I actually had somebody

00:20:25.970 --> 00:20:29.289
on my show once who talked about podcasting.

00:20:29.289 --> 00:20:34.529
I said, if somebody can pinpoint to you how many

00:20:34.529 --> 00:20:38.130
minutes, how long your podcast should be, how

00:20:38.130 --> 00:20:41.430
often you should do your podcasting, you should

00:20:41.430 --> 00:20:44.630
start wondering if this person is legitimate

00:20:44.630 --> 00:20:48.309
because there's not a science behind it. No,

00:20:48.410 --> 00:20:51.059
you're right about that. There really isn't.

00:20:51.059 --> 00:20:53.839
I've seen people get great results with 100 downloads,

00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:57.119
and I've seen people get no results with 10 ,000

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downloads. I mean, look, it just depends on who

00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:01.160
you're talking to and what you're talking about

00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:05.619
and who you are. If you're someone who's trying

00:21:05.619 --> 00:21:07.279
to be a guest in a podcast and you're running

00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:09.440
your own business, you need every piece of marketing

00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:12.539
you can get. You need all the content you can

00:21:12.539 --> 00:21:15.980
possibly have. So, people who are like that are

00:21:15.980 --> 00:21:19.339
just, they have an over -inflated idea of their

00:21:19.339 --> 00:21:24.039
own importance. And it just makes me laugh at

00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:26.740
this point. You know, I'm like, okay, good luck,

00:21:26.779 --> 00:21:30.240
buddy. Yeah, I like that. When they ask me, it's

00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:35.259
like, could you follow up with me when you reach

00:21:35.259 --> 00:21:39.539
over 100 plus? Now, to me, that doesn't specify

00:21:39.539 --> 00:21:45.490
what 100 plus means. at 100 over 100 200 300

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500 and i was like you know no i didn't say that

00:21:52.210 --> 00:21:53.710
to the person but i was like thinking it's like

00:21:53.710 --> 00:21:59.049
no that's an insult you know what i mean to all

00:21:59.049 --> 00:22:00.410
the work you're putting in and everything you're

00:22:00.410 --> 00:22:03.910
doing so i uh like i said i won't even call a

00:22:03.910 --> 00:22:05.369
person like that back i'll be like you know what

00:22:05.369 --> 00:22:07.450
sorry it didn't work out have a good day i'll

00:22:07.450 --> 00:22:09.109
never ask him to be on the podcast again because

00:22:10.029 --> 00:22:12.329
That's not what I'm about. That's not what I

00:22:12.329 --> 00:22:15.289
promote. That's just another mercenary who's

00:22:15.289 --> 00:22:17.490
trying to make a buck and thinks their time is

00:22:17.490 --> 00:22:21.009
more important than everybody else's. You know

00:22:21.009 --> 00:22:24.069
how many requests a day I get for people to be

00:22:24.069 --> 00:22:29.150
a guest on my podcast? Over a couple hundred.

00:22:30.210 --> 00:22:37.859
Actually, no. More like 10, 20 -ish a day. Okay,

00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:43.400
you know, let's say on PodMagic, if I'm very

00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:52.880
active on it daily, let's say like one day, if

00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:55.220
I wasn't even active for a whole week, but then

00:22:55.220 --> 00:23:00.420
if somebody, I might have like 20 requests in

00:23:00.420 --> 00:23:06.099
a week, it's like, Your message is going to be

00:23:06.099 --> 00:23:10.599
buried very quickly. That's not great. People

00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:13.720
will fill out my form because it's like, oh,

00:23:13.940 --> 00:23:16.960
well, that's why I went on PodMatch because I

00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:18.940
didn't want to fill out forms. And it's like,

00:23:19.059 --> 00:23:21.599
well, you know, I'm never going to find your

00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:25.599
information ever again. You and I are in a lot

00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.359
of the same podcast groups, you know, and stuff

00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.119
like that. And how many people do we see that

00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:31.880
have podcasts that are out there just trying

00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:33.920
to find guests? And they're like, Hey, I'm looking

00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:35.200
for guests. You know, if you want to be on the

00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:37.720
show, give me a call. And if you're in a position

00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.799
where you have a podcast and you have people

00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.099
who are calling you going, I'd like to be on

00:23:42.099 --> 00:23:46.720
your show, you're doing it right. Keep doing

00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:48.940
what you're doing. You know, that's great. I

00:23:48.940 --> 00:23:50.960
mean, they have people who are saying, can I

00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:53.799
please be on your show? That's the best feeling

00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:55.880
in the world when people are doing that. Cause

00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:57.299
you know, you're doing something correct and

00:23:57.299 --> 00:23:59.700
you know, you're making a difference and the

00:23:59.700 --> 00:24:05.220
other ones, you know, the heck with them. So,

00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:09.200
in your opinion, why do you think podcasters

00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:15.680
tend to give up after a while? Is it because

00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:21.619
they start as... Well, I saw someone else in

00:24:21.619 --> 00:24:25.279
one group. I forget which group. I'm not going

00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:29.220
to name the group because I don't remember what

00:24:29.220 --> 00:24:32.859
group we were in. But I saw in one of the groups

00:24:32.859 --> 00:24:39.000
I'm in, this person said that they don't look

00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:42.279
at podcasting as a business, and they're just

00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.359
doing it for the fun of it. I was like, that's

00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.539
great and all, but the reason why I can focus

00:24:48.539 --> 00:24:52.140
on it as a business is to be consistent and hold

00:24:52.140 --> 00:24:55.220
myself accountable. I'm not saying I don't have

00:24:55.220 --> 00:24:59.339
fun with it, but I need to say, okay, this is

00:24:59.339 --> 00:25:05.109
my work hours. This is my personal fun hours

00:25:05.109 --> 00:25:10.150
versus my fun business hours, podcasting, interviewing

00:25:10.150 --> 00:25:14.269
people. But I'm one of those people who I need

00:25:14.269 --> 00:25:16.369
to hold myself accountable or it's not going

00:25:16.369 --> 00:25:21.049
to get done. Sure. Yeah. So the question is why

00:25:21.049 --> 00:25:23.930
do we guide people to give up doing it? Yeah.

00:25:24.690 --> 00:25:28.069
I think it's the same reason that people can't

00:25:28.069 --> 00:25:33.150
lose weight. If you're 50 pounds overweight,

00:25:33.390 --> 00:25:35.450
it didn't take you a day or a week to get 50

00:25:35.450 --> 00:25:38.130
pounds overweight. You're a crazy fitness guy,

00:25:38.170 --> 00:25:40.190
so I'm talking to you in terms that I know you

00:25:40.190 --> 00:25:43.109
understand. But the fact of the matter is it

00:25:43.109 --> 00:25:46.069
took you a long time, over a lot of months, maybe

00:25:46.069 --> 00:25:49.230
even years, to get 50 pounds overweight. So if

00:25:49.230 --> 00:25:52.009
you want to lose that 50 pounds and you start

00:25:52.009 --> 00:25:54.490
a diet, you're not going to lose all 50 pounds

00:25:54.490 --> 00:25:57.910
in a week. It's going to take you time. You're

00:25:57.910 --> 00:26:00.309
going to have to work at it over time a little

00:26:00.309 --> 00:26:02.529
bit, a little bit, a little bit. You're not going

00:26:02.529 --> 00:26:05.869
to see huge progress right away. And so people

00:26:05.869 --> 00:26:09.049
stop. Podcasting is the exact same thing. They

00:26:09.049 --> 00:26:12.250
get into it for whatever their reason is. And

00:26:12.250 --> 00:26:14.170
whatever their reason, whether it's money, whether

00:26:14.170 --> 00:26:16.650
it's downloads, whether it's fame, whether it's,

00:26:16.650 --> 00:26:19.670
you know, wanting to be, you know, some kind

00:26:19.670 --> 00:26:22.549
of marketing vehicle for something else. Maybe

00:26:22.549 --> 00:26:25.759
they want to coach. Whatever it is, they aren't

00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:29.099
seeing their results fast enough. And they go,

00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:33.619
you know what? It's not worth my time. It's ridiculous.

00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.420
You know, I have another podcast called Power

00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:39.700
of Man, and it's directed towards husbands and

00:26:39.700 --> 00:26:41.859
fathers. And, you know, we help a lot of guys

00:26:41.859 --> 00:26:44.519
who are going through tough times, divorced dads.

00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:46.420
I work with a lot of veterans on that podcast.

00:26:47.220 --> 00:26:52.460
And my first nine episodes. first eight episodes,

00:26:52.619 --> 00:26:55.460
I think I had like maybe 10 or 15 people per

00:26:55.460 --> 00:26:59.680
episode listening, you know, and it was nothing

00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:04.039
big. Right. And I get down to that point in episode

00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:07.960
nine, I do one about bullying and it just was

00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:09.759
me talking about, you know, so in my experience

00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:11.519
about how I got bullied when I was a kid and

00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:16.240
this and that, and, um, that episode out of nowhere,

00:27:16.339 --> 00:27:20.269
I got like over a hundred responses. You know,

00:27:20.289 --> 00:27:24.430
and I'm like, whoa, what happened? Right. And

00:27:24.430 --> 00:27:28.029
in my head, I'm going, wow, wow, we must have

00:27:28.029 --> 00:27:29.529
really hit something. Maybe this went viral,

00:27:29.609 --> 00:27:31.049
you know, because that's all you think about

00:27:31.049 --> 00:27:34.589
as a podcaster. Wow. You know, and I realized

00:27:34.589 --> 00:27:36.470
that, you know, I was getting people who were

00:27:36.470 --> 00:27:38.089
telling me, hey, I had no idea you went through

00:27:38.089 --> 00:27:40.069
this. They were saying, man, I went through this,

00:27:40.089 --> 00:27:43.369
too. Thanks for talking about this. Episode 10

00:27:43.369 --> 00:27:47.619
comes along. Nothing. Five downloads. Nobody

00:27:47.619 --> 00:27:50.220
cared. I'm like, what happened? I lost my whole

00:27:50.220 --> 00:27:54.839
thing. And right then, what I realized was I

00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:58.019
hit a nerve someplace. I said something somewhere

00:27:58.019 --> 00:28:00.200
along the line that made a difference to somebody.

00:28:00.779 --> 00:28:04.599
I made a difference in somebody's life. There

00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.039
were over 100 people who cared enough about what

00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.460
came out of my mouth to take the time to message

00:28:10.460 --> 00:28:14.490
me about it. And I stopped and I went, you know,

00:28:14.509 --> 00:28:17.529
how many people get to impact the lives of a

00:28:17.529 --> 00:28:22.390
hundred people by talking for half an hour? Not

00:28:22.390 --> 00:28:25.809
too many. And it was like that moment that I

00:28:25.809 --> 00:28:28.690
realized how powerful podcasting not only is,

00:28:28.710 --> 00:28:32.190
but can be. And when you think about the fact

00:28:32.190 --> 00:28:35.269
that, you know, if you've only got 10 listeners

00:28:35.269 --> 00:28:38.009
per episode, you know what, if you're impacting

00:28:38.009 --> 00:28:40.809
the lives of 10 people, every time you put on

00:28:40.809 --> 00:28:45.359
an episode. I mean, the compound effect makes

00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.700
that pretty serious. And that's an awesome thing.

00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.559
You can't impact 10 lives, you know, without

00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:58.099
trying, um, too many other ways. And so people

00:28:58.099 --> 00:28:59.720
just, they look at it wrong. They don't really

00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:01.480
understand it. They don't, they don't get what

00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.380
it's about when they get into podcasting. And,

00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:08.579
um, once you realize that, that if my motto with

00:29:08.579 --> 00:29:11.240
that entire podcast was, if I can help one father.

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.240
not have to make a mistake that I made, that

00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.279
I learned about the hard way, then it's worth

00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.660
all the time I put into this if I help one man,

00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.619
right? And it's the same thing with all my other

00:29:23.619 --> 00:29:26.619
podcasts. If I help one person have an easier

00:29:26.619 --> 00:29:29.460
time, not get one of the scars that I've got,

00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.420
then you know what? It's worth it. I'm having

00:29:32.420 --> 00:29:35.180
an impact on the world. So I don't have to worry

00:29:35.180 --> 00:29:37.900
about my number of downloads or I rank on Google

00:29:37.900 --> 00:29:41.430
or anything else because I know. I know I'm impacting

00:29:41.430 --> 00:29:44.750
the world. Not everybody can say that, but podcasters

00:29:44.750 --> 00:29:50.190
can say that. Stay with us. We'll be right back.

00:29:51.029 --> 00:29:53.170
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00:29:53.170 --> 00:29:57.670
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00:29:57.670 --> 00:30:01.369
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00:30:01.369 --> 00:30:05.990
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00:30:05.990 --> 00:30:10.210
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month for $30 a year. You know, I like what...

00:30:52.490 --> 00:30:59.650
I like what you said. But I think we're... We're

00:30:59.650 --> 00:31:03.960
so my... Where I saw my disconnect gets from,

00:31:04.259 --> 00:31:10.000
I wouldn't say podcasting just in general, but

00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:16.240
just like numbers game is maybe you're familiar

00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.660
with Google Analytics and Google Search Console

00:31:18.660 --> 00:31:22.880
and whatnot. Those two tools will never ever

00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:27.809
read up and match the same number. And, you know,

00:31:27.849 --> 00:31:29.829
it got me thinking the other day and it gave

00:31:29.829 --> 00:31:33.609
me a funny joke. And I was like, I'm going to

00:31:33.609 --> 00:31:36.509
write this to Google and you can mark my words

00:31:36.509 --> 00:31:39.349
on this. I will do it on social media because

00:31:39.349 --> 00:31:43.390
I do have a big mouth and I do like to push Google's

00:31:43.390 --> 00:31:51.079
buttons. And so my joke is I would love to. I

00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.759
can only picture, and I hope that somebody put

00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:59.140
it on recording on some point in that meeting,

00:31:59.220 --> 00:32:04.279
or pitched that to Google's CEO at the time,

00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:06.279
and was like, you know, we should come up with

00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:10.099
Google Analytics and Google Search Console. They

00:32:10.099 --> 00:32:13.480
do similar things, but those two will never really...

00:32:14.149 --> 00:32:18.009
being next to each other. And we can have the

00:32:18.009 --> 00:32:21.970
user to decide on how to decipher this. So in

00:32:21.970 --> 00:32:24.329
one tool, it looks like you're gaining traffic.

00:32:24.450 --> 00:32:26.109
In the other tool, you look like you're losing

00:32:26.109 --> 00:32:30.380
traffic. Which one's right? I'm sure the person's

00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:32.160
like, hey, you know what? That's a great idea.

00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:34.880
And they should have what I'm recording because

00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.279
I would love to be laughing at that meeting because

00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.880
like, holy crap, how did you guys create this

00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:47.000
stupid moronic tool? It can't be on accident,

00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.039
right? I mean, something that simple, that basic,

00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.180
cannot be an accident. Everywhere you turn, they're

00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:55.599
trying to sell you something. Oh, get your analytics

00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:59.119
up, or here's a course on how to fix your reviews.

00:33:00.220 --> 00:33:03.140
It's all business. They're going to raise you

00:33:03.140 --> 00:33:04.700
up here, drop you down here, make you worry,

00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:06.299
and then as soon as they make you worry, try

00:33:06.299 --> 00:33:10.059
and sell you something. That's a good gimmick.

00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:13.420
It's a great gimmick, and we all end up looking

00:33:13.420 --> 00:33:15.980
at it. Right. We all end up staring at it all

00:33:15.980 --> 00:33:18.000
the time going, oh, man, I got one of my numbers.

00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:20.420
Where am I at? You know, because we all want

00:33:20.420 --> 00:33:22.279
to know. But, you know, at the end of the day,

00:33:22.299 --> 00:33:23.960
you just have to sort of pat yourself on the

00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.240
back and go, look, yes, I'm going to look at

00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.720
my numbers. But, you know, I I got to just stop

00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.759
because it's not about numbers. It just isn't

00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.319
about numbers. It's about impact. You know, and

00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:38.019
I just it's so hard because I know I look at

00:33:38.019 --> 00:33:42.750
my numbers, too. I mean, to be honest. I mean,

00:33:42.750 --> 00:33:44.809
to be honest, the podcasting numbers at least

00:33:44.809 --> 00:33:49.990
are a little bit more forgiving and nicer at

00:33:49.990 --> 00:33:53.970
times. I mean, I admit, like, my trailer episode

00:33:53.970 --> 00:33:56.890
that just came out today had only six listens.

00:33:57.130 --> 00:34:02.289
But, you know, like, in total, it says it's like

00:34:02.289 --> 00:34:05.109
six minutes because of the ads and whatnot. But

00:34:05.109 --> 00:34:08.449
in total, it's like two minutes long of just

00:34:08.449 --> 00:34:13.019
a... trail a piece of it of the upcoming episode.

00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:24.179
But because yesterday my downloads skyrocketed

00:34:24.179 --> 00:34:30.199
to like 100 plus just as of last night. I didn't

00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.760
publish anything last night. I just published

00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:36.190
something today. And I was like... See, that's

00:34:36.190 --> 00:34:39.690
what I like about podcasting. I was like, maybe

00:34:39.690 --> 00:34:44.130
it was part of an algorithm and some podcast

00:34:44.130 --> 00:34:48.570
app or whatnot. But at least what I'm saying,

00:34:48.670 --> 00:34:51.969
at least the numbers are forgiving. It might

00:34:51.969 --> 00:34:54.670
be five one day, it might be one one day, it

00:34:54.670 --> 00:34:56.989
might be two. But then it could just skyrocket.

00:34:58.329 --> 00:35:03.050
Google search, you know. tried to please the

00:35:03.050 --> 00:35:06.789
search engine gods and you get nothing. And then

00:35:06.789 --> 00:35:10.050
when you try to care less, you still get nothing

00:35:10.050 --> 00:35:13.329
and you don't get anything in return. So it's

00:35:13.329 --> 00:35:18.130
just like, screw you, Google. And then when you

00:35:18.130 --> 00:35:21.090
try to go fix something with Bing, Bing's search

00:35:21.090 --> 00:35:25.389
engine, don't even get me started. I can put

00:35:25.389 --> 00:35:28.250
in... See, and this is where I'm going to get

00:35:28.250 --> 00:35:31.590
my big mouth in trouble, but I'm going to say

00:35:31.590 --> 00:35:36.030
it anyway because this is what I do. I posted

00:35:36.030 --> 00:35:42.690
on this social media just one error message purposely.

00:35:43.210 --> 00:35:50.590
And what's funny, it had over 40 -plus views

00:35:50.590 --> 00:35:53.800
on Instagram alone. I didn't check the other

00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.300
networks that I posted on, but I was just curious

00:35:57.300 --> 00:36:00.300
what Instagram would say to it, whether Instagram

00:36:00.300 --> 00:36:04.920
would just kick it off. But what was funny, I

00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:11.079
said, basically the post read, you know, hey,

00:36:11.099 --> 00:36:14.840
DOJ, I'm not going political -wise, but just

00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.880
pointing out, it was like... Hey guys, maybe

00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.920
instead of going after Google for trying to sell

00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.659
off Google Chrome and whatnot, and this comes

00:36:23.659 --> 00:36:26.699
from somebody who's not really a fan of Google,

00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:29.199
I might use some of their products because I

00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.539
have to. Well, I mean, I like their Pixel phone,

00:36:32.699 --> 00:36:35.940
but other than that, it's kind of hit or miss

00:36:35.940 --> 00:36:42.500
for me. I can go teeter both ways. But my eyes

00:36:42.500 --> 00:36:45.400
are like... But before you tried to point fingers

00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.340
at Google or try to get them to sell off their

00:36:48.340 --> 00:36:54.639
search engine and sell off Chrome, how about

00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:59.000
you look in your own backyard at the FTC for

00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.360
allowing all these monopolies? But then also,

00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:07.440
it wasn't this long, but basically I said, look

00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:15.110
in your own backyard first. After that, go after

00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:19.150
Google. But then, personally, it wasn't Google's

00:37:19.150 --> 00:37:21.250
fault for all the other search engines going

00:37:21.250 --> 00:37:23.690
out of business. Because when I pointed out,

00:37:23.809 --> 00:37:26.230
I was like, try logging in Bing Webmaster Tools.

00:37:26.309 --> 00:37:30.610
It's like, I don't know, find the key to the

00:37:30.610 --> 00:37:36.090
abyss. Because, holy crap, it was the error message

00:37:36.090 --> 00:37:38.570
I got. It was like, try again later. I was like,

00:37:38.690 --> 00:37:41.400
try again later. It doesn't even let me log in.

00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:45.559
And I was like, well, maybe this is why, because

00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.940
the incompetence like Microsoft can't even run

00:37:47.940 --> 00:37:53.119
their own search engine. This all sounds like

00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:58.519
something I'd see you post, yes. My friend says

00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:00.599
to me, he's like, are you trying to get yourself

00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.760
kicked off on social media? I think Facebook

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.099
is kind of scared to kick me off on social media.

00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:12.840
I mean, you're very direct when you post on social

00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:14.360
media. That's awesome, man. You and I are friends

00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.940
on Facebook, so I see it. I'm like, you go, Jimmy.

00:38:18.380 --> 00:38:20.699
Go get it. I mean, technically, I've been on

00:38:20.699 --> 00:38:24.440
Facebook since, like, I had, like, two different

00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:27.599
Facebook accounts. I mean, one I got just rid

00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:30.579
of. I mean, I wasn't using it, and then I started

00:38:30.579 --> 00:38:33.039
a new. It was too much to delete every single

00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.679
post I ever made, so I was like, why do that?

00:38:36.900 --> 00:38:39.670
I mean, I didn't post anything, like, nasty or

00:38:39.670 --> 00:38:45.530
anything. I know. It was like when I first started

00:38:45.530 --> 00:38:48.170
Facebook and it's like, oh, I don't even use

00:38:48.170 --> 00:38:53.030
this account. Get rid of it. Start fresh. And

00:38:53.030 --> 00:38:58.849
so basically in all my time of being on this

00:38:58.849 --> 00:39:02.309
account that I currently have, I have never been

00:39:02.309 --> 00:39:06.829
thrown into Facebook yet. Congratulations. At

00:39:06.829 --> 00:39:09.329
least 20 of my friends have been thrown in Facebook

00:39:09.329 --> 00:39:14.289
geo. Not me. And I have posted so many things

00:39:14.289 --> 00:39:17.869
about Facebook on my own account, even in Messenger,

00:39:18.130 --> 00:39:21.469
and Facebook still hasn't thrown me in geo. It

00:39:21.469 --> 00:39:24.690
wasn't nasty stuff like, oh, screw Facebook or

00:39:24.690 --> 00:39:28.489
anything. It was more like I wrote in the paper

00:39:28.489 --> 00:39:32.659
in college about all the... all the algorithms

00:39:32.659 --> 00:39:35.500
on social media, all the ins and outs. I got

00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:40.800
an A -plus on the paper. And it was a really

00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:42.940
creepy paper, too, when I was doing it. I was

00:39:42.940 --> 00:39:44.739
like, oh, they know this about me? I was like,

00:39:44.820 --> 00:39:47.059
oh, God. Well, I'm not even going into detail

00:39:47.059 --> 00:39:50.719
about that. But what my point is is, like, when

00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.679
I shared that tidbit information with some of

00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:57.019
my colleagues, Facebook didn't even like it.

00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.260
remove that post or anything. I wasn't in person

00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:02.559
all the time, but I wasn't even deleting a messenger.

00:40:02.820 --> 00:40:06.599
I was like, they probably think it's like, what

00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.440
does he know about us? I was like, we should

00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.400
just let him have his rant and just let him just

00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.500
go. Yeah, because they don't want to make a martyr

00:40:16.500 --> 00:40:18.280
out of you. They just want to leave you be. Maybe

00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:23.760
he'll go away. Exactly. I mean like I mean they

00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.320
could have shut me up like at least a couple

00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.340
hundred plus times but I was like it was like

00:40:29.340 --> 00:40:34.860
what does he know about us I mean that comes

00:40:34.860 --> 00:40:36.880
with the theories but I'm just like thinking

00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.239
it's like hmm 20 of my friends got into Facebook

00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.380
jail and been in there for a few weeks. I don't

00:40:45.380 --> 00:40:47.579
know. How long is Facebook jail? Like a few weeks

00:40:47.579 --> 00:40:51.400
or months? And I've never been caught once. Yeah,

00:40:51.420 --> 00:40:53.119
I have no idea because I'm with you. I've never

00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:56.840
been in Facebook jail. So I've been very, very

00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:02.539
fortunate. And again, to specify, I'm not looking

00:41:02.539 --> 00:41:06.480
to go into Facebook jail, but I'm just out of

00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:10.789
curiosity. Okay, I said a lot of worse things

00:41:10.789 --> 00:41:15.389
than my colleagues, and yet they haven't touched

00:41:15.389 --> 00:41:20.309
me whatsoever. It's like, it gets me curious.

00:41:21.250 --> 00:41:23.989
Maybe it's the way you say it. You say it in

00:41:23.989 --> 00:41:26.130
a smart way, and so it doesn't come off as harsh,

00:41:26.190 --> 00:41:27.809
and so maybe they're like, all right, just leave

00:41:27.809 --> 00:41:31.710
it alone. Well, I like to think I do that too.

00:41:34.339 --> 00:41:37.739
And, you know, two of my friends at Karate who

00:41:37.739 --> 00:41:41.380
are lawyers, well, one used to be a lawyer and

00:41:41.380 --> 00:41:44.320
one currently is a lawyer, they both said to

00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:45.599
me, it's like, well, as long as you don't say

00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.400
anything threatening, you're small potatoes to

00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.260
them. It's like, can't say a little thing and

00:41:50.260 --> 00:41:52.699
I'll come after you for suing you. And it's like,

00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.460
it's not like you're... Joe Rogan and they cost

00:41:57.460 --> 00:42:00.340
you a trillion dollars. And it's like, true.

00:42:00.460 --> 00:42:04.539
And it's not like I said point blank something

00:42:04.539 --> 00:42:08.579
false information. I was just sharing my point

00:42:08.579 --> 00:42:13.400
of view. And I do have just the facts and whatnot.

00:42:13.940 --> 00:42:16.900
Not like any single fact, but it's like, interesting.

00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.960
Why are you not going to have to see for Alami's

00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:26.340
Monopoly? That would be my first question. Right.

00:42:26.739 --> 00:42:33.460
Put me on charge. I can't do any worse. Okay,

00:42:33.500 --> 00:42:38.440
so maybe that's my only rant. No problems. It's

00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:40.900
okay, man. It's your show. You can talk about

00:42:40.900 --> 00:42:46.380
whatever you want. Exactly. Right. So, what got

00:42:46.380 --> 00:42:50.260
me into thinking while I was in my rant, I was

00:42:50.260 --> 00:42:55.480
curious. So, What are some ways for people to

00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:06.340
monetize their podcast? Is it just sponsorships

00:43:06.340 --> 00:43:11.820
or is there other opportunities besides affiliate

00:43:11.820 --> 00:43:16.760
marketing as well? Yeah, honestly, the monetization

00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:21.909
possibilities are endless. You could, I mean,

00:43:21.929 --> 00:43:24.289
people, you can be as creative as you want. I

00:43:24.289 --> 00:43:27.090
have brought in advertisers that were local,

00:43:27.210 --> 00:43:29.090
you know, who wanted to just jump on because

00:43:29.090 --> 00:43:31.650
they thought it was cool. You know, maybe somebody

00:43:31.650 --> 00:43:35.110
wants to be interviewed and they're willing to,

00:43:35.130 --> 00:43:37.889
you know, pay 50 bucks for the spot. You know,

00:43:37.949 --> 00:43:41.010
I mean, I know people who charge for interviews

00:43:41.010 --> 00:43:44.980
as if they're advertising spots. What they'll

00:43:44.980 --> 00:43:46.739
do is they'll go out and they'll say, and this

00:43:46.739 --> 00:43:48.800
is just an example, instead of just looking for

00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:50.500
a sponsor and saying, Hey, I have X number of

00:43:50.500 --> 00:43:53.539
downloads, blah, blah, blah. They do the, I'm

00:43:53.539 --> 00:43:55.639
going to interview you. You're going to be able

00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.320
to take that interview and send it all over your

00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:02.079
social media. So basically I'm making an ad for

00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.880
you. That's going to be on my podcast and they

00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:07.460
charge them, you know, 50 bucks, a hundred bucks,

00:44:07.579 --> 00:44:09.280
300 bucks, whatever they want to charge them,

00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.380
whatever they can get. And they do it. And it

00:44:13.380 --> 00:44:16.179
becomes an episode of the podcast. And then they

00:44:16.179 --> 00:44:18.559
give them the link afterwards. And the advertiser

00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.000
treats it like a marketing piece, like what we

00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.179
were talking about earlier. They can send it

00:44:23.179 --> 00:44:25.480
off and, you know, use it to get more clients

00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:27.980
because they just got interviewed on a podcast.

00:44:28.780 --> 00:44:30.619
The average person on the street isn't going

00:44:30.619 --> 00:44:32.440
to look up your podcast to see how many downloads

00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:36.219
you have. You know, they're just going to see

00:44:36.219 --> 00:44:39.539
this professional guy being interviewed on a

00:44:39.539 --> 00:44:41.179
podcast and they're going to go, oh, wow, he's

00:44:41.179 --> 00:44:44.590
being interviewed. on a podcast, well, P, you

00:44:44.590 --> 00:44:46.610
must be really good. You must be really big.

00:44:48.170 --> 00:44:51.329
You can use your podcast for monetization to

00:44:51.329 --> 00:44:54.070
promote your business. If you have another business

00:44:54.070 --> 00:44:55.690
that goes along with it, like you do, you've

00:44:55.690 --> 00:44:58.949
got several. Your podcast can be your marketing

00:44:58.949 --> 00:45:01.889
platform and can help you monetize your actual

00:45:01.889 --> 00:45:05.349
businesses. You can write books like I've done

00:45:05.349 --> 00:45:07.750
and so on and so forth, and then you can sell

00:45:07.750 --> 00:45:10.530
the book on your podcast or in the show notes.

00:45:11.340 --> 00:45:14.860
you know, on the website along with it. The affiliate

00:45:14.860 --> 00:45:17.239
marketing, putting those links in there, that's

00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.340
a great way to go. You can also sell courses

00:45:20.340 --> 00:45:22.219
in affiliate marketing. You could put whatever

00:45:22.219 --> 00:45:26.739
link you want in the show notes. The possibilities

00:45:26.739 --> 00:45:31.400
are only as limited as you were thinking. People

00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:32.900
go in and they go, oh, I got to get a certain

00:45:32.900 --> 00:45:36.420
number of ads. How can I get ads? And then they're

00:45:36.420 --> 00:45:38.820
told, well, when you get 10 ,000 downloads, call

00:45:38.820 --> 00:45:43.570
me. And so how do I get 10 ,000 downloads? And

00:45:43.570 --> 00:45:47.690
then they do all these episodes and they're like,

00:45:47.789 --> 00:45:49.190
I'm never going to get there. I'm never going

00:45:49.190 --> 00:45:53.050
to make any money. One real common way is to

00:45:53.050 --> 00:45:56.630
take on an advertiser. Like, you know, a guy

00:45:56.630 --> 00:45:59.369
that I was working with, he works with a coffee

00:45:59.369 --> 00:46:02.789
company and he gives out the link and says, Hey,

00:46:02.829 --> 00:46:05.230
you get 25 % off using this code. Well, and then

00:46:05.230 --> 00:46:07.349
every time they use the code, he gets a couple

00:46:07.349 --> 00:46:10.639
of bucks. So it's an affiliate link that way.

00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.159
But he talks about it and it gives them an advertising

00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.699
spot. And then he gets paid commission on anything

00:46:15.699 --> 00:46:18.960
he sells. Anything that you can do to make money,

00:46:19.019 --> 00:46:21.940
you can do through your podcast. And like I said,

00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.659
there's millions of things to do. You can develop

00:46:25.659 --> 00:46:29.179
your coaching programs. You can develop videos.

00:46:30.059 --> 00:46:35.579
You can do courses and sell those. all depends

00:46:35.579 --> 00:46:39.159
on what your topic is, what your personal authority

00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:45.579
is, where your expertise lies. And I offer a

00:46:45.579 --> 00:46:49.860
podcast course. I do podcaster training and I

00:46:49.860 --> 00:46:51.340
have a bunch of people who have signed up for

00:46:51.340 --> 00:46:54.780
that. And it's a four -week course and we talk

00:46:54.780 --> 00:46:56.440
about whatever it is they want to talk about.

00:46:56.920 --> 00:46:58.960
One of the things that everybody wants to talk

00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.340
about is monetization. And so I have this exact

00:47:02.340 --> 00:47:05.019
conversation with all of them. I'll sit down

00:47:05.019 --> 00:47:06.860
with them and I'll say, all right, well, who

00:47:06.860 --> 00:47:09.079
are you? Tell me your story. What are you trying

00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.079
to do? What's your other business stuff look

00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:13.980
like? Because it isn't just the podcast. It's

00:47:13.980 --> 00:47:16.280
what do you have going on outside of the podcast?

00:47:16.780 --> 00:47:19.940
And let's find the best way to monetize you.

00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:24.000
Not just your podcast, but you. And the podcast

00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.719
always finds a place. It always finds a place

00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.880
in working for them. But for everybody, it's

00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:31.670
different for everybody. Absolutely different

00:47:31.670 --> 00:47:34.170
for everybody. Until you're like Joe Rogan and

00:47:34.170 --> 00:47:35.789
then you can go, hey, it's a million dollars

00:47:35.789 --> 00:47:38.389
to advertise my podcast. Write the check to Joe

00:47:38.389 --> 00:47:42.070
Rogan. Here we go. Everything's great. Until

00:47:42.070 --> 00:47:47.610
then, we all got to fight for every dollar. For

00:47:47.610 --> 00:47:52.269
me, personal coaching was a big way to go. I

00:47:52.269 --> 00:47:55.190
made some advertising dollars. I did a lot of

00:47:55.190 --> 00:47:57.190
local stuff to start with when I was getting

00:47:57.190 --> 00:48:00.170
going. It really just depends on the person.

00:48:01.179 --> 00:48:04.659
For instance, I'll be honest with you. I've done

00:48:04.659 --> 00:48:09.659
it so far. I mean, the sponsorships that I have

00:48:09.659 --> 00:48:15.559
for my show, because my numbers are not in the

00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:19.440
10 ,000 per episode range, I mean, it's far from

00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:27.159
better. And by, I mean, it's not even close to

00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:31.210
that. I'm being honest because, I know there's

00:48:31.210 --> 00:48:33.949
some analytic services that would reveal that,

00:48:34.110 --> 00:48:36.489
and I'd rather be truthful than just be like,

00:48:36.570 --> 00:48:40.570
yes, I'm making that much money. No, not even

00:48:40.570 --> 00:48:45.210
close. I like honesty and transparency, because

00:48:45.210 --> 00:48:47.349
then I don't have to remember any whys whatsoever.

00:48:48.329 --> 00:48:56.550
So how I've done it, because my numbers are...

00:48:58.409 --> 00:49:03.130
On the lower side of things, not across all the

00:49:03.130 --> 00:49:05.630
boards. I mean, like, monthly is, like, over

00:49:05.630 --> 00:49:11.230
a couple hundred. But not quite to the 1 ,000

00:49:11.230 --> 00:49:17.829
-kilometer ads from Westboro that I use. And

00:49:17.829 --> 00:49:25.050
so what I do, I pitch to local, I don't say local

00:49:25.050 --> 00:49:28.059
companies, but, like, companies that align along

00:49:28.059 --> 00:49:32.059
with my brand, so to speak. For instance, I'm

00:49:32.059 --> 00:49:33.900
a part of some affiliate marketing programs,

00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:38.199
but then my podcast editing service, I like.

00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.280
I promise this is not an ad. I'm just sharing

00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.119
the name. A lot of it will be in the episode,

00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.920
but not in this stream because they're not paying

00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:56.340
me for the stream. Hang on. But they podcasted,

00:49:56.539 --> 00:50:00.579
helped me with the editing and whatnot. So basically

00:50:00.579 --> 00:50:05.599
what I did, I provided them a service for a service.

00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:11.139
And they keep renewing every single year. And

00:50:11.139 --> 00:50:15.139
so I was like, thank you. So that's one way to

00:50:15.139 --> 00:50:24.320
do it. So that's how I approached it. So let's

00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:29.800
use fitness, for example. So this is one company

00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:37.320
that I use for learning new information and whatnot.

00:50:37.619 --> 00:50:41.300
It's sort of like Blankist or Blanket, however

00:50:41.300 --> 00:50:45.780
you pronounce the name. And basically it takes

00:50:45.780 --> 00:50:54.130
like podcast books. stuff on websites. It's all

00:50:54.130 --> 00:50:58.590
published by people and whatnot. But it basically

00:50:58.590 --> 00:51:01.090
gives you the cliff notes of everything. So if

00:51:01.090 --> 00:51:03.630
you don't have time to read a whole article,

00:51:03.809 --> 00:51:09.889
you can listen to it. You can get a very short

00:51:09.889 --> 00:51:11.909
version of it. It's like, oh, okay, so that's

00:51:11.909 --> 00:51:14.869
what this is about. And you can go back to, you

00:51:14.869 --> 00:51:17.889
can read the original where it came from if you

00:51:17.889 --> 00:51:20.050
want to read the whole thing. But if you're just

00:51:20.050 --> 00:51:23.300
like, Okay, just give me the very bold points

00:51:23.300 --> 00:51:25.380
of the whole thing, just so I can get the gist

00:51:25.380 --> 00:51:29.320
of it and remember the main points. And it's

00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.139
called Deep Stash. And so I did. I pitched to

00:51:32.139 --> 00:51:35.000
them. It's like, hey, you know, I like learning

00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.519
new stuff every single day. Hey, my listenership's

00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:42.860
been growing nonstop. I pitched it to them. They

00:51:42.860 --> 00:51:46.800
liked it. So they gave me their pro version for

00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:51.119
whatever. Not every company is going to say yes.

00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.500
It depends on how you can help them, how you

00:51:54.500 --> 00:52:01.559
can help them. I got this idea from, I forgot

00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:05.579
who gave it to me. I heard from another podcast.

00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:11.039
Don't be afraid to ask. another business, you're

00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:13.639
providing them a service by coming to them because

00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:16.159
they might have heard part of podcasting, but

00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:18.119
they don't know how to get into it, and you're

00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:20.519
providing them that service. Because think of

00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:23.659
it, and this is what this person said on their

00:52:23.659 --> 00:52:26.099
show, and I apologize for not forgetting the

00:52:26.099 --> 00:52:30.639
person's show. It's been a while since I've listened

00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:36.420
to that episode, so my apologies. But basically,

00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:42.539
this guy said, You're reaching out to them, providing

00:52:42.539 --> 00:52:48.860
them the service to have them reach a broader

00:52:48.860 --> 00:52:53.920
audience. TV ads are expensive. Radio ads are

00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:58.039
expensive. Podcast ads are cheaper. And you can

00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:02.679
actually get a dedicated spot. TV, you're not

00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:06.929
guaranteed squat. If they can fit you in that

00:53:06.929 --> 00:53:13.809
30 -second block in that one hour of the TV show,

00:53:14.070 --> 00:53:19.349
they'll do it. Maybe. Perhaps. Depends when it

00:53:19.349 --> 00:53:23.190
airs. At least the podcast, if you get the dedicated

00:53:23.190 --> 00:53:30.079
spot, you can say for how long. Like some of

00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:33.639
the services that I requested is for a whole

00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:36.739
year access. And so I was like, okay, I'll run

00:53:36.739 --> 00:53:40.300
your whole app for a whole year if you give me

00:53:40.300 --> 00:53:42.639
your service for a whole year. And they're like,

00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:46.659
you aren't done. And because you provided them

00:53:46.659 --> 00:53:49.199
that service. And so, you know, there's like,

00:53:49.340 --> 00:53:52.010
hey, you want any bit? Any business you can send

00:53:52.010 --> 00:53:55.309
my way, I'll do it. And so, yeah, you're providing

00:53:55.309 --> 00:53:58.070
them a dedicated spot. So it's like, you know,

00:53:58.130 --> 00:54:00.929
worst case, what can they do? Say no? And it's

00:54:00.929 --> 00:54:03.230
like, nothing, venture, nothing, game. And so

00:54:03.230 --> 00:54:05.309
that's where, you know, I've been turned down

00:54:05.309 --> 00:54:09.010
so many times. You know, the last couple of times

00:54:09.010 --> 00:54:12.309
I've done it, it took me a while to get the first

00:54:12.309 --> 00:54:16.030
one. And second one followed like a couple months

00:54:16.030 --> 00:54:18.670
later. Then a third one followed quickly. And

00:54:18.670 --> 00:54:21.650
the fourth one followed. And it's like, damn,

00:54:21.809 --> 00:54:25.869
thank you. I was like, or excuse to say no. But

00:54:25.869 --> 00:54:30.650
then I remind myself, it's enough for right now.

00:54:31.030 --> 00:54:35.090
And I'm back to follow up later. Because once

00:54:35.090 --> 00:54:37.750
you improve Joe's download rates, it's like,

00:54:37.829 --> 00:54:41.079
you know what? Now that you mention it again,

00:54:41.300 --> 00:54:45.940
yes, I want to come back. That's a very creative

00:54:45.940 --> 00:54:47.500
way to look at all that, man. I love it. I mean,

00:54:47.500 --> 00:54:50.079
everything you're saying right there. Plus, let

00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.840
me tell you, what really sets off a lot of podcasters

00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:54.800
who are like, oh, I've tried to monetize and

00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:58.219
I just can't. They haven't actually tried. They

00:54:58.219 --> 00:54:59.800
haven't done what you just talked about. They

00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:02.780
haven't called an advertiser. Okay, because most

00:55:02.780 --> 00:55:05.019
people who are podcasters are not salespeople.

00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.159
You know, they don't know how to go out and sell

00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:11.260
themselves and sell their show, and they don't

00:55:11.260 --> 00:55:13.800
know how to go to an advertiser on their own.

00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:20.400
That sounds dirty. One of the things that happens

00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.099
with podcasters is they get in, and then they

00:55:23.099 --> 00:55:24.960
immediately, like, especially with Buzzsprout,

00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.860
you know what I mean? You go there, and then,

00:55:27.900 --> 00:55:32.340
you know, you have the... What's their advertising

00:55:32.340 --> 00:55:36.960
thing called? Podcorn? It's like popcorn, and

00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:41.639
then they have their own ad marketplace or something.

00:55:42.059 --> 00:55:44.539
Yeah, where they'll find you an advertiser, but

00:55:44.539 --> 00:55:48.880
you make like 18 cents. That's all in one place.

00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:51.699
Right. They think it has to come that way. They

00:55:51.699 --> 00:55:53.300
think that either people are going to come to

00:55:53.300 --> 00:55:56.599
them or the services are going to provide, and

00:55:56.599 --> 00:56:00.380
it's like luck. you're building a marketing piece

00:56:00.380 --> 00:56:03.460
and that's it. So you just, you take it, you

00:56:03.460 --> 00:56:06.179
run with it, you get creative and there's a million

00:56:06.179 --> 00:56:08.400
ways to make money. There really is. You just

00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:10.179
got to take the blinders off. You got to be willing

00:56:10.179 --> 00:56:13.099
to go out and, you know, make a call, ask somebody,

00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:16.440
Hey, do you want to advertise my podcast? Boom.

00:56:17.139 --> 00:56:18.320
What's the worst they're going to do is say no.

00:56:18.420 --> 00:56:19.900
Well, you're still making the same amount of

00:56:19.900 --> 00:56:21.420
money now that you were before you asked them.

00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:26.219
Yeah. I mean, like look up Tom Natch, you know,

00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:31.239
They make some money by interviewing people.

00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:34.219
And then once the episode is published, you get

00:56:34.219 --> 00:56:37.539
a little bit more money for publishing that episode.

00:56:38.139 --> 00:56:41.599
So it's like, you know, at first I thought I

00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:44.340
wasn't going to be able to afford it. But I made

00:56:44.340 --> 00:56:47.360
some... No, I'm not going to go on the whole

00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.659
nook and cranny, as I promised. But I made some

00:56:50.659 --> 00:56:54.320
adjustments to where my money was going. And

00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:57.179
I was like... I'm going to go invest in Podmatch

00:56:57.179 --> 00:57:00.559
because I really like it. I like the person behind

00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:10.219
it. Very personal. Cool person. And to kind of

00:57:10.219 --> 00:57:15.539
be in touch with literally a CEO of Podmatch.

00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:19.699
It's like, hell yeah, I want him to be connected.

00:57:19.900 --> 00:57:21.960
Not just because of that, but he's a cool person.

00:57:23.099 --> 00:57:26.679
podcast industry expert literally the expert

00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:30.079
in the podcast industry I've been featured in

00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:36.579
pod news too so it's like duh so it's like my

00:57:36.579 --> 00:57:42.780
point is I made some strategic moves financially

00:57:42.780 --> 00:57:47.159
and I was like this is worth six bucks a month

00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:52.880
especially because I know I can afford it. I

00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:56.539
was like, oh, move this, move my money to this.

00:57:56.960 --> 00:58:00.900
And I got more money coming into here, paying

00:58:00.900 --> 00:58:05.079
that. And from doing that, my podcast is paying

00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:09.780
for itself, plus some other stuff. It actually

00:58:09.780 --> 00:58:13.000
bought me a new laptop this year, which I needed

00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.920
because the other one, nothing was responsive

00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:21.150
on it anymore. I mean, opening up to... OneDrive

00:58:21.150 --> 00:58:24.070
and whatnot. It was just like so responsive.

00:58:24.369 --> 00:58:30.769
It was like... And yes, that was my keyboard

00:58:30.769 --> 00:58:33.849
made by LogicTech that also made my microphone.

00:58:35.349 --> 00:58:37.250
Unfortunately, they did not make my microphone

00:58:37.250 --> 00:58:39.190
stand, but that would have been a really great

00:58:39.190 --> 00:58:44.030
opportunity. Well, congrats on that. I mean,

00:58:44.070 --> 00:58:45.409
yeah, you're looking at things the right way,

00:58:45.409 --> 00:58:48.510
man. You really are. And trust me, that was,

00:58:48.769 --> 00:58:53.530
it's been difficult when I had to do that because

00:58:53.530 --> 00:58:57.510
it was like so much thinking. I was like, if

00:58:57.510 --> 00:59:01.250
I move this here, where does this can lead to

00:59:01.250 --> 00:59:04.389
and whatnot. It's like a spider web. And I was

00:59:04.389 --> 00:59:08.829
like, do I do it? Do I do it? And like, yes,

00:59:08.829 --> 00:59:13.349
great, I cut it. There was a lot of planning.

00:59:15.769 --> 00:59:19.750
Yeah, it hurt my brain. It fried my brain. I

00:59:19.750 --> 00:59:23.650
was like, by the time I went to karate, after

00:59:23.650 --> 00:59:25.969
those nights, people was like, Jimmy, are you

00:59:25.969 --> 00:59:29.010
okay? Like, you look like you're out of it. I

00:59:29.010 --> 00:59:35.329
was like, just a little. I had my head like against

00:59:35.329 --> 00:59:37.150
the wall, just like with my eyes closed. Like,

00:59:37.170 --> 00:59:39.690
you look like you're tired. I was like, yeah,

00:59:39.750 --> 00:59:44.849
my brain hurts. Do you see the smell coming out

00:59:44.849 --> 00:59:51.969
of my ears? So, my last few questions for you,

00:59:52.030 --> 00:59:54.190
and I definitely would love to have you back

00:59:54.190 --> 00:59:57.030
on my show because I love talking about podcasting.

00:59:57.050 --> 01:00:02.070
And, well, I mean, if he doesn't like talking

01:00:02.070 --> 01:00:06.929
about podcasting, I'm probably going to leave

01:00:06.929 --> 01:00:12.159
him on no podcasting. So, My last few questions

01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:16.320
for you is, who's your favorite podcaster and

01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:21.800
why? And feel free not to say me. That's the

01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:23.539
tough one, man. I mean, you're close to the top.

01:00:23.619 --> 01:00:27.639
You really are. What kind of answer is this?

01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:32.820
I have my favorite podcaster. Oh, my gosh. Besides

01:00:32.820 --> 01:00:39.570
me. Besides you. Okay. Wow. That's, that's tough.

01:00:39.730 --> 01:00:43.269
I mean, I like a lot of them. Um, I would say

01:00:43.269 --> 01:00:46.349
honestly, probably, uh, and, and I don't mean

01:00:46.349 --> 01:00:47.889
to get political or anything, but I just really

01:00:47.889 --> 01:00:50.949
enjoy his stuff is probably Dan Bongino. He's

01:00:50.949 --> 01:00:52.710
my favorite podcaster. I just love his style.

01:00:52.789 --> 01:00:54.690
I love what he does with the show and he has

01:00:54.690 --> 01:00:58.489
found a way to monetize like crazy. And so, you

01:00:58.489 --> 01:00:59.949
know, whenever I listen to his show, I learned

01:00:59.949 --> 01:01:03.150
something about the podcasting business, which

01:01:03.150 --> 01:01:05.289
is, uh, which is one of the most fascinating

01:01:05.289 --> 01:01:13.260
things, you know, in that. Yeah. I actually was

01:01:13.260 --> 01:01:18.179
going to... I used to try to livestream on Rumble.

01:01:19.260 --> 01:01:21.900
I'm not going to politicize or anything because

01:01:21.900 --> 01:01:27.119
I'm just... I looked into the platform. I'm still

01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:30.340
on the platform. I'm a crazy fitness guy. But

01:01:30.340 --> 01:01:34.739
one thing that they need to really tweak is if

01:01:34.739 --> 01:01:39.000
you're trying to go like... a livestream on the

01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.739
show, they kind of do it a little stupidly a

01:01:41.739 --> 01:01:45.340
little bit. When you schedule something out,

01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:49.239
you can only do it... So let's say if you wanted

01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:52.400
to livestream on a Friday, you have to go in

01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.480
on Thursday on your account to set it up for

01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.400
manually on their end on Thursday. I was like,

01:02:00.460 --> 01:02:04.500
who has time to do that? I was like... I mean,

01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.539
it's one thing if you're like, Dan Bongino has

01:02:07.539 --> 01:02:11.260
a team beat. I'll be doing that for him. But

01:02:11.260 --> 01:02:15.679
it's annoying for someone like me who uses a

01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:19.420
third -party tool like Talk Studios and whatnot.

01:02:19.659 --> 01:02:22.239
It's like, oh, come on. If I can schedule something

01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:30.570
to Twitch, YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn. Why can't

01:02:30.570 --> 01:02:34.909
they make this thing easy? I mean, come on. It's

01:02:34.909 --> 01:02:39.150
like, I'm not asking for much. I would livestream

01:02:39.150 --> 01:02:46.210
every week on Mumble. I mean, I'm still on YouTube.

01:02:46.369 --> 01:02:49.650
I didn't say I got off of YouTube. I didn't hop

01:02:49.650 --> 01:02:53.369
ships or anything. Right. But I'm just saying,

01:02:53.530 --> 01:02:58.190
it's like, come on. Manually? And it's like...

01:02:58.590 --> 01:03:01.030
I always sketch out my live stream shows every

01:03:01.030 --> 01:03:04.110
Wednesday. Who wants to go into another tool

01:03:04.110 --> 01:03:07.969
to schedule that just for that platform? Right.

01:03:08.269 --> 01:03:10.429
It's one more thing to do, right? One more thing

01:03:10.429 --> 01:03:13.710
to add to your schedule that you got to do. Just

01:03:13.710 --> 01:03:17.769
do it. I mean, if I could do it on that Wednesday

01:03:17.769 --> 01:03:23.269
for the following Friday, I would do it in a

01:03:23.269 --> 01:03:26.329
heartbeat. But it's like, just one little change.

01:03:26.469 --> 01:03:31.840
Just tweak it. You should definitely send him

01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:33.599
a message and let him know that over there, Rumble.

01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:38.659
Yeah, and it's funny, I've been trying, I was

01:03:38.659 --> 01:03:40.739
trying to get that syndication to work too, but

01:03:40.739 --> 01:03:43.480
it didn't work for YouTube. It was like, an error

01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:47.079
occurred. So I'm trying to get that fixed. I

01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.380
was like, come on, guys. I was like, this is

01:03:49.380 --> 01:03:53.239
why I'm not using it as much. I want to put my

01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:57.239
new promo for my web app out on there, because

01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:00.800
their embeds work better than YouTube. You know

01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.880
what's funny? Speaking of which, I have to bash

01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:08.840
Google on this. Sorry, but not sorry. If you

01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:13.679
take a YouTube embed code directly from YouTube,

01:04:14.019 --> 01:04:17.650
it does not show up mobile -friendly. It only

01:04:17.650 --> 01:04:20.530
shows up mobile -friendly through my, let's say,

01:04:20.550 --> 01:04:24.230
hosting company pod page because it's built into

01:04:24.230 --> 01:04:29.190
it. But what I've noticed, if you take, at least

01:04:29.190 --> 01:04:32.750
this was like a couple months ago, and take the

01:04:32.750 --> 01:04:37.309
embed code of a YouTube video, literally it cuts

01:04:37.309 --> 01:04:42.610
off on mobile. And basically you have to, it's

01:04:42.610 --> 01:04:46.349
like Google thinks that everyone's a cheat code.

01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:51.380
an expert in coding. And so everything is like

01:04:51.380 --> 01:04:56.639
cut off. And it's like, really Google? And it's

01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:01.360
like, at least with Rumble, everything is mobile

01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:03.960
for me on there. And it's like, I might just

01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:07.199
use that for my product, for my product promos

01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:12.880
for the neuron, for like my app page and whatnot.

01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:17.250
Just because it's like, really good though as

01:05:17.250 --> 01:05:20.110
i come from then come up from coming from the

01:05:20.110 --> 01:05:22.050
company who's like everything needs to be normal

01:05:22.050 --> 01:05:25.469
friendly as i huh you guys should not be talking

01:05:25.469 --> 01:05:29.309
it's the type of critic idiots i'm sorry i'm

01:05:29.309 --> 01:05:32.210
sorry but when i hit the clip too close to home

01:05:32.210 --> 01:05:37.050
yes funny ironically i'm saying that well i have

01:05:37.050 --> 01:05:41.380
a google home mini in my room there you go Dude,

01:05:41.420 --> 01:05:44.199
they know everything we're saying, so there's

01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:46.599
no secrets. There's no secrets. They know exactly

01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:50.380
who you are. I know. I'm a rebel. Rebel scum.

01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:53.300
I'm sure you're on the public enemies list at

01:05:53.300 --> 01:05:56.460
this point over there. Yeah, ironically enough,

01:05:56.780 --> 01:06:01.679
one of my friends, I'm not going to name the

01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:04.469
company worse for our butts. Yeah, that's funny.

01:06:04.550 --> 01:06:06.750
He's like, you know, Jimmy, I can actually copy

01:06:06.750 --> 01:06:09.449
your account to actually see all the stuff that

01:06:09.449 --> 01:06:14.210
you ordered and all the conversations you had

01:06:14.210 --> 01:06:17.230
with customer support over the years. I was like,

01:06:17.309 --> 01:06:22.750
oh, great. And I was just joking. Well, of course.

01:06:22.889 --> 01:06:25.369
And I was like, okay, I'm going to end up on

01:06:25.369 --> 01:06:30.760
the blacklist again. Oh, yeah. He's like, I'm

01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:34.880
not going to do it. And he's like, why do I not

01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:42.519
believe that? I was like, I would do it. He's

01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:44.079
like, if I was in your position, I would do it

01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:52.599
too. It's like, I knew karma was going to bite

01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:58.099
me in the ass somewhere. Here he goes. Okay.

01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:00.599
And my last question for you is where can people

01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:02.679
follow you, find you, learn more about who you

01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:05.480
are and what you do? Yeah, I'm really, really

01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:08.579
easy to find. You can just go right to Facebook

01:07:08.579 --> 01:07:11.380
and look up my name, Rory Paquette, R -O -R -Y

01:07:11.380 --> 01:07:15.059
-P -A -Q -U -E -T -T -E. I'm sure you're going

01:07:15.059 --> 01:07:16.699
to have that. The show notes are someplace on

01:07:16.699 --> 01:07:20.139
this thing. And that's the easiest way to find

01:07:20.139 --> 01:07:22.559
me is just right there. Or you can put the same

01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:25.989
thing in at Rory Paquette on Instagram. Um, if

01:07:25.989 --> 01:07:27.650
you're looking for stuff on the podcaster nation,

01:07:27.889 --> 01:07:32.309
it's literally at the podcaster nation. And,

01:07:32.389 --> 01:07:34.809
um, we have a private Facebook group for that,

01:07:34.889 --> 01:07:37.929
for anybody who's a podcaster and wants to network

01:07:37.929 --> 01:07:40.590
with other podcasters. And then we have an Instagram

01:07:40.590 --> 01:07:42.730
page for that as well, the podcaster nation.

01:07:42.909 --> 01:07:45.949
So, um, it's real simple to find me, but just

01:07:45.949 --> 01:07:48.150
look up my name and then everything else is like

01:07:48.150 --> 01:07:50.329
connected to that or an offshoot of that and

01:07:50.329 --> 01:07:52.929
piece of cake, absolute piece of cake to find

01:07:52.929 --> 01:07:58.150
me. I mean, I also got a Facebook group and a

01:07:58.150 --> 01:08:02.369
Discord community. It has some extra benefits

01:08:02.369 --> 01:08:04.789
in one versus the other one, just hanging out.

01:08:04.869 --> 01:08:09.389
Another one is for those who want to be part

01:08:09.389 --> 01:08:13.130
of something bigger, can actually suggest, depending

01:08:13.130 --> 01:08:16.770
on if you join the premium podcast or everyone,

01:08:16.949 --> 01:08:21.069
you get the Laura Suggest blog post. Uh, content

01:08:21.069 --> 01:08:25.609
or podcast topics, et cetera, might be selected

01:08:25.609 --> 01:08:29.350
at some point. Uh, when they have more stuff

01:08:29.350 --> 01:08:32.590
in there, et cetera, uh, trying to build up two

01:08:32.590 --> 01:08:35.729
communities. One just is a lighthearted hangout.

01:08:35.729 --> 01:08:38.270
Yeah. I mean, I haven't said lighthearted. I

01:08:38.270 --> 01:08:41.050
mean, just like get to know crazy fitness guy.

01:08:41.409 --> 01:08:43.609
And this has been the discourse for like the,

01:08:43.689 --> 01:08:48.500
I would say that. from members of Crazy Fitness

01:08:48.500 --> 01:08:51.539
Guy who wants to take it to the next level. That's

01:08:51.539 --> 01:08:56.800
crazy. I mean, they're crazy, of course. Hold

01:08:56.800 --> 01:09:00.380
it. Let's stay in touch, and I would love to

01:09:00.380 --> 01:09:05.560
have you back on in the future. My other last

01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:08.159
question for you, and I mean to ask my last question.

01:09:08.739 --> 01:09:14.220
It's okay. Do whatever you got. I've got to give...

01:09:15.229 --> 01:09:18.010
Three pieces of advice, three takeaways from

01:09:18.010 --> 01:09:23.470
this show. New or old about podcasting, what

01:09:23.470 --> 01:09:27.689
would you tell them? So you want me to give them

01:09:27.689 --> 01:09:30.930
three takeaways? Yeah. Or new or old podcasters?

01:09:31.850 --> 01:09:37.270
Yeah. New tips, old tricks, whatever. Okay. Yeah,

01:09:37.369 --> 01:09:40.630
no problem. Great question. The first one is

01:09:40.630 --> 01:09:43.949
be consistent. If you're going to do it, just

01:09:43.949 --> 01:09:47.220
do it. You know, don't worry about, is this the

01:09:47.220 --> 01:09:49.539
best episode ever? Don't spend a whole lot of

01:09:49.539 --> 01:09:51.619
time editing. Don't worry about whether or not

01:09:51.619 --> 01:09:56.079
you're perfect. Talk into the mic, save it, publish

01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:59.060
it, and just go. Because the more you do it,

01:09:59.100 --> 01:10:01.680
the better you're going to get. And nobody out

01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:03.460
there who's listening to your stuff cares whether

01:10:03.460 --> 01:10:05.720
or not you coughed once or they heard your dog

01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:08.319
in the background one time or anything else.

01:10:08.819 --> 01:10:11.340
Everybody gets so hung up on that. So that's

01:10:11.340 --> 01:10:14.680
number one. Be consistent and just do it. Number

01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:19.560
two would be do not worry about money. Do not

01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:23.560
worry about money. Do not worry about money until

01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:27.039
you're at least past 20 episodes. And the reason

01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:29.899
I'm telling you that is because most podcasters

01:10:29.899 --> 01:10:34.920
stop or quit before they get to number 20. And

01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:36.699
if you're going to sit there and get to 18 or

01:10:36.699 --> 01:10:39.439
19 or 20 and you're just going to quit, don't

01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:42.819
spend any time worrying about getting paid for

01:10:42.819 --> 01:10:45.840
it. When you pass 20 and you're coming up with

01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:49.180
content and you feel good, then if you want to

01:10:49.180 --> 01:10:51.100
ask the question, ask the question about money

01:10:51.100 --> 01:10:54.479
and monetization. But until you hit 20, don't

01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:56.739
even let it cross your lips. So that's number

01:10:56.739 --> 01:11:03.239
two. And number three is be real. Do not get

01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:05.060
on a podcast and try to be somebody you're not.

01:11:05.819 --> 01:11:09.279
Don't get on there and try to be some talking

01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:14.020
head from TV that you idolize. some motivational

01:11:14.020 --> 01:11:18.579
speaker that you love, but that you're not. Be

01:11:18.579 --> 01:11:22.659
you. Just be you. And it doesn't matter who that

01:11:22.659 --> 01:11:27.439
is, as long as it's you. Everybody has somebody

01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:32.060
that wants to listen to them. Period. Somebody

01:11:32.060 --> 01:11:33.800
out there wants to hear what you have to say.

01:11:34.100 --> 01:11:36.560
It may not be millions of people, but it might

01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:40.279
be. But if you're not being you, nobody's going

01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:44.829
to listen. So that's number three, be you. I

01:11:44.829 --> 01:11:47.829
love all the steps, especially being consistent,

01:11:47.989 --> 01:11:50.890
because there's too many people who are not consistent.

01:11:51.390 --> 01:11:55.029
And the other thing I'm going to say, I like

01:11:55.029 --> 01:11:59.930
to say, just be you. Because, you know, I've

01:11:59.930 --> 01:12:02.090
seen so many people try to be somebody else,

01:12:02.170 --> 01:12:06.170
and it comes across that. I've always been consistent

01:12:06.170 --> 01:12:11.739
at being me. Like, you know, before we got into

01:12:11.739 --> 01:12:13.699
this episode, you asked me how I've been doing.

01:12:14.140 --> 01:12:17.640
I shared. I was like, yeah, I've been struggling

01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:22.699
up and down for seven weeks mentally. But I know

01:12:22.699 --> 01:12:25.739
why. Well, I'm starting to put together a puzzle

01:12:25.739 --> 01:12:31.399
piece of why. And it's due to some business,

01:12:31.500 --> 01:12:37.699
but also just due to just personal stuff, miscommunication

01:12:37.699 --> 01:12:43.729
and some friendships. etc. And also, I get tired

01:12:43.729 --> 01:12:47.310
of the people, some people around me not going

01:12:47.310 --> 01:12:50.489
to name any names and not going to say how they

01:12:50.489 --> 01:12:58.090
label them, etc. But people ask me, it's like,

01:12:58.210 --> 01:13:01.670
Jimmy, what are you going to do when you finish

01:13:01.670 --> 01:13:05.970
your major in college? And why that bugs me is

01:13:05.970 --> 01:13:09.279
because I'm already doing my major in college.

01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:16.220
This right here is media studies here. Podcasting

01:13:16.220 --> 01:13:24.319
is media. Right on. Right on. Good for you, man.

01:13:24.420 --> 01:13:27.680
Right on. And if those people don't like it,

01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:34.329
you can watch me from afar. Keep doing what you're

01:13:34.329 --> 01:13:35.789
doing, brother. Keep doing what you're doing.

01:13:36.090 --> 01:13:37.750
You're doing great. Keep doing what you're doing.

01:13:38.369 --> 01:13:40.729
And that's what I'm going to end it on today,

01:13:40.890 --> 01:13:43.229
and thank you for being a guest, and sorry for

01:13:43.229 --> 01:13:48.010
going over the show time, but I just had a blast

01:13:48.010 --> 01:13:51.989
with you, and you kind of made my night, because

01:13:51.989 --> 01:13:58.210
earlier today was very challenging, only just

01:13:58.210 --> 01:14:04.750
because I'm finishing up a lot of different last

01:14:04.750 --> 01:14:09.109
projects that I kind of got behind on and my

01:14:09.109 --> 01:14:12.909
mentor kind of chewed my head off and so I mean

01:14:12.909 --> 01:14:16.310
it was well deserved because he's been helping

01:14:16.310 --> 01:14:20.489
me out and so he has all the right to chew my

01:14:20.489 --> 01:14:23.609
head off but it was just like it was a wake -up

01:14:23.609 --> 01:14:26.850
call and then after seeing a lot of things that

01:14:26.850 --> 01:14:30.409
I felt behind on I was like I really need to

01:14:30.409 --> 01:14:33.229
get myself back to where I need to be because

01:14:33.229 --> 01:14:37.449
mentally, because after seeing all the broken

01:14:37.449 --> 01:14:42.149
things I left behind, I'm like, ew. I was like,

01:14:42.189 --> 01:14:47.609
where was my head? Not here. And it's not here.

01:14:50.050 --> 01:14:51.949
I hear you, man. I appreciate you saying that.

01:14:52.010 --> 01:14:54.529
I had a great time. So, you know, anytime you

01:14:54.529 --> 01:14:56.630
want to do this again, you just let me know and

01:14:56.630 --> 01:15:00.159
we'll book it. Awesome. And if you don't mind,

01:15:00.340 --> 01:15:03.779
I have to send you a message about something

01:15:03.779 --> 01:15:08.239
later, about an upcoming event that I'm doing.

01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:16.220
I'll spoil it for the next... Yeah, I'll just

01:15:16.220 --> 01:15:18.500
spoil it real quick, but you can go whenever

01:15:18.500 --> 01:15:22.600
you need to go. I'm going to send you a message

01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:27.380
right after this about the event that I'm doing.

01:15:27.619 --> 01:15:31.960
So I look forward to telling you, and let's stay

01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:34.279
in touch. Sounds good, man. I can't wait to read

01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:41.000
it. Awesome. See you. Thanks a lot. So that's

01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:44.220
all for today. If you enjoyed the show, let me

01:15:44.220 --> 01:15:47.279
know. Leave it in the comments below. In the

01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:51.920
meantime, I have two, well, Two events coming

01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:59.399
up next year. One of them is from... I can't

01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:02.420
use this word, but let's just say it's a taping

01:16:02.420 --> 01:16:07.520
for my TED Talk pitch. So it's official slash

01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:11.399
unofficial. I can't use TED Talk in the title

01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:16.000
or the description. So make sure you check that

01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:20.899
out. I'll put the link in the show notes. It's

01:16:20.899 --> 01:16:28.600
coming next year, May 20th, 2025, 6 p .m., Upper

01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:34.939
Dublin Lutheran Church. And I hope anyone can

01:16:34.939 --> 01:16:40.479
make it. And so go check that out. It's a free

01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:42.899
event since I can't make money off of the event

01:16:42.899 --> 01:16:47.520
because it's going to TED directly. So go check

01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:51.369
it out. It's on Eventbrite. I'll put the links

01:16:51.369 --> 01:16:55.489
in the show notes. And I'm going to make an official

01:16:55.489 --> 01:16:58.710
public announcement next week on social media.

01:16:58.850 --> 01:17:01.050
I already have some events on Facebook about

01:17:01.050 --> 01:17:04.130
it. So you might see it somewhere down the road.

01:17:04.409 --> 01:17:06.930
I mean, on Facebook, if you follow me on Facebook,

01:17:07.210 --> 01:17:13.270
et cetera. Limited space available. So check

01:17:13.270 --> 01:17:16.229
it out. I'll be in touch. And if you have any

01:17:16.229 --> 01:17:18.840
questions. Send me an email or send me a text,

01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:22.939
whatever. I mean, send me an email or send me

01:17:22.939 --> 01:17:26.539
a message on social media. In the meantime, stay

01:17:26.539 --> 01:17:29.539
healthy, stay safe, and stay motivated. And I'll

01:17:29.539 --> 01:17:31.260
be back for another brand new episode of Crazy

01:17:31.260 --> 01:17:33.199
Finns Guy Health and Love Podcast. It's actually

01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:35.279
called Motivation with Crazy Finns Guy. In the

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