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yeah I love this Brenda's just right in there too he missed it but you need a drum beat she said
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yeah oh man oh wow yeah so much fun we're having and you know so um so
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special and we're it's all this important information but it we can have
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so much fun with it at the same time so yes um yeah it's it's feeling really
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really good um it looks like our uh next guest Jimmy is in the background Jimmy
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how how are things going everything going back there every you're getting your slides ready so hopefully we'll see
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him I don't know if we have any time in between that we need to do any commercials hey there's Jimmy there is
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he hi Jimmy hello how are you doing are you
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ready I'm almost ready I know you are I know you are he's you know this is Jimmy
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Claire our crazy Fitness guy um okay yeah so and it's I've been lucky to have
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Jimmy on my show we've been on each other's shows I think and um just have
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really kept in contact and in touch for the last couple years and I've seen all of his growth and advocacy so um yeah
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it's great to have you here Jimmy thanks for your time today ah thanks for having me uh I'm always happy to be uh a part
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of big things like this yeah it's so nice to have you here do you have slides
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you're going to be using today yep okay did you pull those up yet yes I
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have okay do I I don't see that they're up there but maybe you could share your
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screen with us and then we'll see them I'm uploading them right now okay
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wonderful I think it went through and Mia again thank you so much
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you are so just so incredible to jump on here with
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me um and Danielle had a wedding she had to go to this afternoon and then I think
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I just forgot to schedule someone to be here I am just honored and blessed to
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have you here by my side and it looks like um there we go there is his his slides ready to go so if you're ready to
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go Jimmy we will let you take the stage I'm ready to go
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cool so uh today I'm going to be talking about the barriers uh about problems with the
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healthcare industry AR with people with extra challenges it's gone on far too long it
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needs to change it does not work and here's
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why so I don't know if you can see the numbers I I try to make them uh as big
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as possible without making all blurry but uh as you can if you can see very
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well there's uh back in uh 1992 uh I was born in
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1993 there's a steady in growth of people being diagnosis with
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autism now I made this presentation very broad to fit everyone on the extra
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challenges autism included Etc I know this is just from the autism parading
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magazine so uh obviously it's a little slightly different but I just wanted to
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show you that as the years progressed there's more people with
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being diagnosed with autism Etc we are currently in uh well as of last
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year in 2023 it was 1 in 36 I believe now it's uh 1
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in34 in 2024 and so it's a steady pace and
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because autism diagnosis is keeps expanding and growing and uh and faith
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and basically the Spectrum keeps widening and widening and widening well
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that eventually needs to be revamped too it it might as well just be a spider web
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because eventually the spectrum is should run out at some point so it
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should be branching off of each other like a spiderweb but that's another story for another lat another time later
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but uh but the problem doesn't just lie it's not a problem that the autism OS
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rate has skyrocketed the problem is is that the health insurance does
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not understand the extra the extra help
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and care that people need with extra challenges and I'll share another
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alarming statistic with you so according to the New York Times 60% of people with
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extra challenges have trouble with getting the care that they need from their insurance that is a lot and that is
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coming from a either this year or last year I forget
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off the top of my head it was last year I believe like 99.9% certain was last
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year 60% of them could not get the insurance
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and I truly believe Insurance simply does not understand that that people
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with extra challenges need specialty kind of care and here's
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why so maybe uh I'm sure many of you who are watching
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can agree that they have contact contacted their insurance at
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some point uh whether to get something approved or whatnot and they deny you
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because of some person who said say we have an expert they don't tell
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you what they're an expert in they just say we have an expert who knows this
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well I I truly believe that those people
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yes they have a doctor's degree but I asked my I have this uh
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thing called SP stenosis basically makes it hard for me to move my head left and
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right up and down very limited Mobility back in
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2001 uh I got was back in 2001 there was only a 1%
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chance to uh fix my spinal sosis with
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surgery well that one
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so uh so there was like a 99.9% chance that it was not going to
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work so uh and I tell you this
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because uh I'm currently in a fight with
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my insurance because they told me I cannot get my an MRI my last MRI was
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2013 a person a reasonable person would say oh this thing this document is
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outdated by 10 something years ago oh yeah go go ahead go do it
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but uh now I'm currently fighting because he uh he has a so-called expert
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says you don't Physical Therapy will help your neck my neck has been feeling
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very discomfort lately because of physical therapy
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so it clearly so like I said the system needs to change because
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they you know even asking my other doctors who are Specialty Care and
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audiologist uh I'm just going to go with that one because I have a long list and like my audiologist he knows what spinal
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sosis is but he but he but he's not an expert in it so uh so what I'm saying is
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that yes you can be a doctor but not but they can't be an expert in everything and that's why Special Care
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exists and uh and I just want to touch on one other thing on the slide the
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system is has a one-size fits all doesn't sound like it's not it's it
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see it seems like the healthc care industry took some kind of uh idea from
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the special education uh side of things or maybe it was vice versa but the one size fits all
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does not work here's a secret it's
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broke so here's another so here's the problem
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insurance has certain procedures to get certain tests and some specialty doctors won't
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see you without these certain tests so for instance I'm G to go back to my
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story then I'm and on so uh today I I uh I finally got an
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appointment with uh a pa
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uh who for in the neurology department or
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Neurology Group and they told me uh well
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we you can't see the doctor until you get your
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MRI a latest Samurai within the last year and I and I said to them it's like
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oh gez uh what do you think I I like I would love to get one but
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unfortunately my insurance does not want to prove it and we go through all the
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things again and it's like well since your symptoms are not worsening we not
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uh Insurance may not approve it anyway huh so I basically have to be
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uh uh not making fun of anybody but so basically I had to be crippled and uh
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become a vegetable in order to get an M I didn't exactly say those exact words
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well until now but I'm like what kind of system is this it's totally garbage and
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it needs to go so and then you have insurance
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companies that all about the money that's what I believe because you they
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rather to save a few ly B okay I'm not going to say ly because $4,000 for a
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test is not lousy but they make all this hand money hand over fist money
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sometimes you even have to you have to pay a large premiums and just for a MRI that's been
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10 years or 12 years whatever the time frame is unless since the last one then
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I R the for go 4,000 for that I I think I'm I think I deserve at
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least an a a baseline of where I am today in
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2024 yeah well here's a little surprise for you the Health Care system does not
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have any logic they think about the money in front of them but they don't think of the
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long-term for the long term if I become a paralyzed in a vegetable I from the
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neck down they're gonna have to pay 10 times more than the MRI Etc and etc etc
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so they just see what's in front of them they don't look at longterm and two steps uh or five steps or 10 steps down
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the road they don't see the bigger picture they don't care about the bigger picture and that's where karma is going
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to bite them in the butt
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and and and my doctor explained this in two words he's basically said that
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insurance either wants you're fully healthy which is not very possible because there's always
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some kind of slight some kind of
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um extra challenge that somebody has whether it's uh autism or slight arthritis over
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the years or something else either they want you truly healthy
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or they want you dead and he said bluntly like that but I
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was like sounds a about power for the course and I agree with that and I I I
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I'm struggling through the system right now and I don't like it I don't
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understand stupid and this is stupid and the doctor the
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doctor let me see if I can move that no I can't d i can okay so the doctor on
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the health insurance and think they are experting everything like I said you can be a doctor but you can't possibly know
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everything and here's why it's like saying Google knows everything when they
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really don't they don't know everything even chaty PT does not know
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everything and I was going to give you an example but I'm not going to do that
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example because I don't like the example so
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just so here's what needs to change the cost of insurance needs to be more
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affordable think about it you're basically paying Insurance to deny you deny you yes they
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can they cover the uh Che checkups and whatnot and they're good with
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uh okay let me rephrase that they're mostly good with the checkups and dental
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cleanings and eye exams Etc
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but it's not all but not all insurance is created
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created equally you have some scam health insurance companies who try to
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scam you out of stuff then there's also ones that don't even cover a
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Band-Aid and I feel nervous growing
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getting not older but maybe I should say wiser grow
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wiser as a as a uh get WIS there because I'm thinking gee
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when I'm done College out of the house with from my moved out of the house with my
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parents how am I going to figure out any of this stuff because it's hard to trust
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anybody anymore it's oh well this person just sees you as statistics this company
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is just trying to save a couple of bucks this company it's not personalized anymore it's garb AG whoever came up
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with the system didn't I mean okay I'm sure they
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didn't think of how rigged it got over the years
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but it's done for it's gone it's
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and and here's what else needs to change there should be a limit to how
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many garbage kind of L suits that can happen in a month or
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year uh so let me give you an example so there was a recent
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lawsuit uh against Verizon I think either this year or last
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year I think it was this year beginning of this year and the lost to not to get
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all the nitty-gritty parts of it basically at by the end of the lawsuit
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the only people who won was the lawyers because Verizon then bumped up people's
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phone bills just to make the money back that they lost and I kind of want to
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just like say to those lawyers and like that that that didn't help anybody
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because you just made the prices go up even higher so thanks a lot I hope they
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were on Verizon too and I because that would be very very good [Music]
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karma and then doctors should be able to spend more time with their patients to help them better understand their
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conditions so for example you know sometimes when you see a new doctor they might spend maybe two minutes with you
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maybe five if you're lucky because then they have to go to the next patient to the next patient to the next patient and
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I'm just going to throw around a number they might have to see like 500 patients in the day just
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do meet they Cota okay maybe it's not 500 but like I said random
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number and like you know people who
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are on the autism spectrum or some other kind of extra
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challenges we tend to We tend to need more time to digest the
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information understand the information how how to process information we might
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ask you 100 plus questions to understand what we what we have what the condition
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or whatever it is and it's going to take some time
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maybe it probably won't take an hour but it might take 30 minutes so be ready but
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unfortunately not all doctors can not all doctors can spend 30 minutes because
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they had to meet that quota thanks to our system and because of our amazing
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system all of our uh doctors all the doctors out there are burnt out and and
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shortage and shortage of staffed Etc or short on staff I should say my
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apologies and there needs to be special times specialy times of insurance for
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those with extra challenges they should understand each person's unique challenges so for
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instance because of my neck or if you want to
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say uh let's say uh let's use my neck example again
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if the MRI has been outdated for years and years and years I should have to go
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through 40 to six weeks of physical therapy because just because of the norm
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you know I don't like to the Norm you know what Norm stands for nothing normal
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but there's no such as the normal for when it comes with people with extra challenges this is our
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Norm our Norm is literally we we have to get routine
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checkups we have to be able to be you have to get routine checkups we have to
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get uh routine care routine tests but insurance want
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you go play uh some kind of cruel game yet to jump through hoops and
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ladders I don't have any hope for the system it's it's done and you and I
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blame my leaders because while they're sitting up behind the pedestals here and
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and they get their private on care well it feels like and
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but you know while scheduling at my MRI I got two choices of what location one
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one location was booked out until July and the other one's booked out till late May I'm like
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crap and it's like this shouldn't be this difficult but it is and I tell you what Pennsylvania is literally the worst
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state to practice medicine for any kind of
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doctor and I'm sure you probably have I don't know what it's like in other state
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but it's probably maybe just as worst or maybe or I mean just as bad or even
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worse so what the hell care should look like for those with extra
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challenges now I want you to picture this close your eyes and picture
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this I want a system where all the all the doctors all the specialty care
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doctors in one place there for example think of the Children's Hospital of
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Philadelphia uh when I ever I had uh
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three when I was going to uh when I was in Children's Hospital of Philadelphia I when I needed my special
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care care doctors they were there they might be on different floors but stuff
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just worked people went up to go see the doctor and they bring the information
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back down Etc it just worked like a well oiled machine and people forget that when
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people grow out of the system they're stuck in this other crap system they and
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people are like we're making healthc care more affordable no you're not it's
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still as high as crap it's it's garbage
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on my next point I and here's another thing I want you to picture doctors spend extra time listening to the
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patients concerns and answering their questions yes it might be might get a little tedious because of Plenty 100
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questions but you know if we need the support we need the support and we want
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to know what's going on with with our bodies Etc or our health conditions Etc
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and instead of treating me like like another statistic
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like it's a drive-thru of McDonald's or Burger King or whatever fast food restaurant you want to go to or think of
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in this example but you know it's like boom boom boom in out come on go go go go go go go
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quick quick quick quick quick gosh darn it and then everyone's on the same page
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wouldn't that be great you know people can be able to see all your medical records in one place same thing with
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insurance everybody would be on the same exact page it would be a much beautiful
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thing then you don't have to call this do dude to go figure this out because
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what it looks like at the moment you have to go call this do D to get this you have to call this person to go get
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this test you have to go get this person to do this test it's a big maze of and
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it's a big cluster and I'm gonna keep that PG because I could say a lot
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worse and and there' be only one Portal app I've had two portal apps on my phone
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as of right now so far and one doesn't even let me schedule
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appointment in the app and the other one let me schedule appointment and I like
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why can't there just be one p portal so everyone's on the same page there's no
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more oh well you have to use this portal because of this doctor this portal this
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doctor and then you have to get have to sign 600 records to get your records to
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be over this portal it's a nightmare and
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then and then there will be no more jumping through hoops to get certain tests that you need example like my MRI
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there should be like a if I was asking for something every month or two months
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that's one thing but something back in 2013 that's been out of
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date uh that's a Nob brainer at least something someone
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logical like me now I'm GNA say this to you if the
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Health Care system does not change will remain dangerous for those with extra
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challenges so the Health Care system can be dangerous for those who have extra
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challenges or just about or just anyone
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period because the Health Care Systems buil terribly and hard to navigate people tend to put stuff off like for
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instance I it I hav't uh seek
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uh getting an MRI in many years because I've seen I've heard how bad the system
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through my parents when I was growing up and I was still on their health insurance and then when I got into my
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own it became a big cluster and I don't know how my parents did it because I
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don't have any patience I truly admit that I don't have any patience whatsoever I don't have patience for
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stupid and this is stupid it seems like a l iCal fix and like well gee how can
27:30
we get everybody on the same page but we keep doing the same stupid stuff over
27:35
and over again and I'm like I blame my leaders that you know
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they're out just pretending to fix stuff and pretending to do this but they but
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it hasn't gotten better and I'm tired of people's running on we're going to go fix this you haven't fixed squat in at
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all you haven't done it no one has touched this system no one's tried to
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change it for the better it's the same crap over and over and over again it's on the hamster
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wheel and without the proper care we will no longer live think about that for
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second without the proper care we will no longer live just let that sink in with you for
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now here's what the Health Care System should looking towards the future and
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here's what needs to change the healthcare needs to be more affordable everyone needs to be on the
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same page in including health insurance and enough with the games and
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jumping through hoops just to get the care just to get the care that everyone needs the one siiz F the one size
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and finally the one siiz fitall model needs to go it does not work it hasn't
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worked and it hasn't worked in special education and it does not work period in
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healthcare oh thanks Jimmy you know it's really there are really important topics
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that you brought up right there and uh insurance and Health Care can be so it
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feels so divisive almost that you you go to a place you need another place to go
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to a place to get a referral to go to another place and it's like no no why
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can't we simplify this and I think I said that you know so many of our systems aren't created to support our
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community and it's something we do need help and we do need work so thanks for showing that to us and we do need
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Simplicity how do you feel about that Mia and I'm sure you've had the same
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challenges with with your life oh yeah he's he's absolutely right it's just one
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thing after another um and trying to get the care and you just kind of feel you
30:17
sometimes feel isolated and or you can't afford it so now you're got you almost got to choose what do I choose do I you
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know food on the table but this kid needs medicine I mean it it goes it's like that and so yeah and it's very hard
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it's also very hard um like Jimmy said when they don't understand and they can't understand what's going on and you
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need to be patient and go through the process and so um I completely I I it
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was it yeah sad it was sad for me to listen because I I completely understand yeah yeah and if you don't mind me
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saying real quick I actually uh I actually been uh I
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wrote to my state representative to even look into this because it's like this is
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completely baloney and it's like if you want to be in the system uh be charge of the state you got to fix it it's garbage
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absolutely that is one of the steps Jimmy that was absolutely you're right to start writing to Representatives you're absolutely right I went to the
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attorney general I even went to the governor and it's like I ruffled some feathers at my health insurance too it's
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like perfect it's all com into play torture me I'll torture you back I'm
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kidding but [Laughter] well sometimes we have to be that
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squeaky wheel so that we can get the changes made that we need and I agree with that yeah I should just really just
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make a take recorder of myself and just play to the leaders and be just be on on
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replay over and over and over again you just take this recording and and go give it to them there you go I should I sent
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to my health insurance so much yeah right you'll have that ability after you
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get this replay um for sure Jimmy thank you for bringing up so many
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wonderful uh you know insights for people to think about the Health Care
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System the insurance system and ways that we can create a little bit more
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Simplicity in our lives and maybe like you said apps that
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are cover more of a a broad you know broad things than everything so
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Niche and small and fits into every little tiny box everywhere so yeah
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that's such an interesting way to look at it and I'm so glad because I think that what a wonderful variety of topics
32:43
yes in our Summit to be able to cover you know nobody's really talked about how uh the Health Care system and you
32:51
know we've kind of talked about like the uh unfairness of future teller doctors
32:56
who tell our f futures for our children that they they have no right to do but
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um but also to teach uh the doctors the nurses the service providers the
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insurance companies like wow what a big task to take
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on well I don't take a small task maybe I should but