Mindset & Wellness Strategies for Neurodivergent Brains with Venchele Saint Dic

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a brand new episode. Now, let's dive into the

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show. That's how my day has been going so far.

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Not a bad day. Just been tired. Like a walking

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dead zombie. I mean, zombies don't sleep. Okay.

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Well, anyway, that just really cut off my mojo.

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But today's guest, she's a freelance writer,

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author, and editor based in the States. She likes

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the various ways people communicate and connect,

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such as text. I mean, textbooks, letters, media

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content, pictures, sites, and so on. She enjoys

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helping aspiring authors, editors, and businesses

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find their confidence in their writing abilities

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to publish on different platforms. I like that

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too, to an extent where sometimes where my platforms

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sometimes do not align very well when something

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breaks all the time. You know, technology. fun

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when it works and sucks when it doesn't well

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let's welcome today's guest down i'm looking

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forward to the conversation and let's welcome

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her out hello hi jimmy how are you good how are

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you i'm doing good i appreciate you having me

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on your platform today i'm looking forward to

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our conversation I look forward to our conversation

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as well. So before we get started, can you tell

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us a little bit about who you are, what you do,

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how you got started, and why you got started?

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So as you already said, you know, my name is

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Vinchelle Sandeek. I am a freelance author, writing

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brand strategist, and an author for my business,

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Pathway Coach Writing. My niche is in public

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health. I'm currently pursuing a doctorate in

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public health leadership. And really focusing

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on behavioral health, you know, services, at

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least the access of it, you know, to people.

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But in terms of how I got started with my business,

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it actually, I have to hearken back to when I

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was in my, well, during my college days, when

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people would ask me for content feedback, you

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know, on their essays. And I sort of, at the

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time, was doing this as a hobby. And then...

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It was not until like some years later when I

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started my own blog post when I was serving in

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the Peace Corps that I said to myself, maybe

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this is something that I could look into like

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as a potential business idea. But I didn't take

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it too seriously until one of my friends told

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me that I should, after giving her some feedback

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on her white paper, that I should definitely

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create a business out of this. And I think that...

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you know looking back on this now in 2024 um

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pathological trading you know could have started

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maybe in the early you know early 2010 or 2011

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but again i didn't see people who had or i was

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not exposed to people who had successful writing

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businesses and so i didn't know what that what

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that looked like and um And so that's how I got

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started in the business. And then also, it was

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out of this inner curiosity to be part of this

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movement of making sure that I saw people like

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myself in the writing, editing industry. And

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then as someone who has lived in a different

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country, I was born in the States, but I grew

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up in Haiti. When I was going to school, I just

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thought that it would be... It's always good

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to read books, you know, from people who come

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from your own country. And so that's what I bring

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to the table. Like, I work with different clients.

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And I love the fact that you have autism parenting

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because, like, I'm a huge proponent of always

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figuring out who's always left behind, right?

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Like, in any conversation, who's included and

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who's excluded. And so I want to be part of the

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movement of making everyone feel included when

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they're writing their stories or on any of their

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writing materials. That's awesome. There's a

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few things I want to piggyback off real quick.

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One thing I really genuinely like what you said

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is of standing out and being different because

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I've... Lately, I've been watching TV shows with

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characters that are in reading books that have

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a very different personality, different traits.

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If I list them, they would be just way too many.

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But each character, something stands out about

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them. I'll give one example just because it's

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a good show, in my opinion. There's a show called

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The Rookie with the guy who played Rachel Castle

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on the show Castle and Nathan Fillion and in

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the show... Elisa Diaz? Might be. Yeah, but like

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in the rookie he he he's playing this rookie

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cop and and this guy His character like he's

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a lot older than everyone else in the show. And

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so he's like wait are you having and people other

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characters asking me like are you having a midlife

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crisis or you don't know what to do you want

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to be a cop at however all this character is

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in the show and and he's like no i genuinely

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want to be a cop and but what was interesting

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is that everyone else around him is younger than

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he is and i thought it's funny it's like I'm

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starting to notice the patterning of the shows

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that I'm watching and books that I'm reading

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is I'm reading everybody who is different in

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a good way, whether it's by age or by this. It's

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like, so being different is not bad after all.

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And it's like, why am I gravitating to all of

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this? And I was like, I think I might be going

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through just like, am I doing, I'm kind of reflecting

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on my, in my seven plus years in business. Like,

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am I, what I'm, what I'm doing with my business

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is really, is it making a difference? And I was

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like, and I keep on finding myself over. The

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last few months is like, yes, yes. Even though

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that the progress is slow as hell. And that's

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the part I think that even for me, like as a

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business owner, I always tell myself that there

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are going to be some days or some months where

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I have. I experience high productivity levels

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where I have a high number of clients and they're

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going to be months where it's a little bit, it

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sort of wanes down. And I think that both, you

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need both to create balance. I think that what

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you're doing is exceptional. And funny enough,

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when you're talking about just being unique or

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being different, I think that's an asset. uh

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because again you're not conforming to society

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societal norms and expectations um it's also

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an indication that you have something you need

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to offer the world and you're grounded in that

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and so um that's something that i always think

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to myself when um when you know when when i'm

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experiencing those slow days like you know remembering

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my why like why did i decide to even be part

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of this journey? What's really motivating me?

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And so I think that's so important to value both

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times, the days when everything is working perfectly

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well, and then the days where it just feels like

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it's taking a minute to get over the hump. And

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then the other thing I want to piggyback off

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is that when you said that there, when you're

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looking back on when you started, there's a lot

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of things I would have done a lot different.

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For instance, the platform I'm currently on for

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my website hosting company, I don't know. what

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year it started but I wish I found them a lot

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sooner because I would have said that would have

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saved me a lot of years of well one year of super

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frustration and then four years of having to

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well I mean I enjoyed the four years that I was

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on this other platform but then I jumped to these

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guys because I can import more of my stuff like

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Podcast and videos versus everything. Copy, paste,

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copy, paste. I'm tired of copying and pasting.

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I don't mind doing it for a few things, but everything

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else is like, the hell do I pay $252 a year for

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if I'm copying and pasting everything myself?

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Right. No, that's true. I mean, you're making

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me think about what I could have done differently

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when I first... was starting off, I think that

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maybe one thing that I could have done at the

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time is already identified, like, you know, the

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people that I wanted to work with, which is something

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that I didn't have a clear idea of because I

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was just taking everyone. But I think at a certain

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point, as the business grows and as you continue

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to reflect on your values. those elements start

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to take shape and you start realizing, you know

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what, maybe I don't want to work with every single

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person. Maybe I need to be more selective. And

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I think that's what has happened to me. The moment

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that I started defining, you know, the values

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of the people I'm working with that I want to

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be surrounded by. it sort of dictated you know

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the services that i provide um which made a huge

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difference but had i known what i know today

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i would have i would have probably been more

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selective in the, in the very beginning, but

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you know, I started in my early twenties. So

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again, the insight and the wisdom I had in my

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early twenties, maybe it was clouded, you know

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what I mean? Because you're trying to, you're

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focusing more on quantity rather than quality.

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And that's another aspect of business that I

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think people sometimes don't, don't really talk

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about. I know for myself when I started, I was

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doing everything myself. I still do to a certain

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extent. I like writing, but I finally decided

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to allow more guest authors on my website and

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said I needed to do every little nook and cranny.

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And not that I hate doing stuff, but... i'm more

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focusing on the podcast aspect because it's like

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i enjoy that the right one is like algorithms

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and google doing this doing that and i kind of

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feel like the numbers after a while kind of gives

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me like i kind of feel and i'm going to just

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make this kind of a Maybe a little bit of graphic

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picture. So, but I'm going to say as PG as possible,

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but it kind of feels like the numbers feels like

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Google's give me the virtual middle finger half

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of the time. And so I was like, okay, I know

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my content is great, but, and these stupid little

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Google bots on the web are just things like,

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well, you don't really feel like it's great.

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And it's like, oh, come on. It's not like it's

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written by AI, like your other garbage ran out

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there. Oh, bastards. It's unfortunate. And I

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think that's what you and I run into, like, because

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these are online businesses. You know, they always

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talk about it has to be ATS friendly. And even

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when we're talking about. you know something

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as simple as creating a resume or even writing

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a blog content with all of these ats words like

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are we losing the essence of the meaning of what

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you were saying to begin with you know i mean

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um just for the sake of trying to cater to this

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like expert to this requirement just so that

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you can be seen over the web. And I'm finding

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out very quickly that you could use all the ATS

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friendly words as you want, all the action words

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that you want and still, you know, and still

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not be seen because there's some there's some

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things happening in the background that we don't

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have control over, especially with the algorithm.

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And that's what I like about podcasting, because,

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you know. the platforms might have their own

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algorithms at least when you still see the stats

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it's like oh people still listen to the episode

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or and it's like it makes me feel like hey this

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is feeling pretty good versus the other well

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the other stuff like one of the things that kind

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of bothers me as a writer for my and being an

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entrepreneur is that to see a company like google

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who has like pretty much all the money in the

00:17:10.500 --> 00:17:14.799
world let's just let's just go save right bluntly

00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:20.779
like that where let's just say that google search

00:17:20.779 --> 00:17:24.500
console and google analytics did not match whatsoever

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and so it's like and one and i actually read

00:17:28.619 --> 00:17:30.680
an article that this like those two will never

00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:34.039
match and it's like okay good girl really you

00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:36.200
couldn't come up with something better to match

00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:39.000
this to match over here and it's like what an

00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:45.299
imbecile like idea yeah no i i totally get it

00:17:45.299 --> 00:17:57.859
um huh what what is something that you miss about

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you know the Like when you first started, right,

00:18:02.049 --> 00:18:05.470
your podcast and your business, like I think

00:18:05.470 --> 00:18:08.089
about like children, right, and how uninhibited

00:18:08.089 --> 00:18:11.529
they can be. Is there something that you miss

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that you should have, that you could have done

00:18:14.750 --> 00:18:18.750
when you first started? You know, when we, I

00:18:18.750 --> 00:18:21.390
don't want to say that we've become jaded. I

00:18:21.390 --> 00:18:24.490
don't want to say that. But I think sometimes

00:18:24.490 --> 00:18:28.039
like, you know. and i and i don't always talk

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about it but you do go through some lows you

00:18:31.900 --> 00:18:34.599
know when you're building a business right and

00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:36.599
trying to keep it running and trying to keep

00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:39.460
a roof over your head like is there anything

00:18:39.460 --> 00:18:42.599
that you miss about that process that earlier

00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:51.680
process um i would say i i miss i think one process

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where i would say i miss would probably be like

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I think if I had to redo everything, I probably

00:18:59.220 --> 00:19:03.700
would have just stuck with the podcast part of

00:19:03.700 --> 00:19:09.900
it. I started my business based off of a personal

00:19:09.900 --> 00:19:13.579
writing project just to continue to be a better

00:19:13.579 --> 00:19:18.059
writer. Yeah. And I didn't hate that, but I kind

00:19:18.059 --> 00:19:21.160
of wish I transitioned into podcasting a lot

00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:27.450
sooner. And I believe the reason why is just

00:19:27.450 --> 00:19:32.930
because I enjoy talking more to people and meeting

00:19:32.930 --> 00:19:37.609
new people versus just writing all the time.

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And now when I'm writing, I'm writing for other

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publications. So then I feel like, hey, I'm still

00:19:43.990 --> 00:19:46.690
getting my name out there and keep on putting

00:19:46.690 --> 00:19:50.240
my name out there versus... I'm doing all the

00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:54.200
stuff by myself on the back end, and here's my

00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:59.299
lonely slice of the web on my side. What about

00:19:59.299 --> 00:20:05.500
you? Something that I miss. I miss when I had

00:20:05.500 --> 00:20:09.640
a virtual assistant. You know, when I literally

00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:13.619
didn't have to do all of the admin work, and

00:20:13.619 --> 00:20:18.410
I could just focus on just writing. And that's

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something that maybe I might have to bring back

00:20:21.069 --> 00:20:23.470
because, you know, I'm in school and I'm, you

00:20:23.470 --> 00:20:25.329
know, I'm doing this like this is part of my

00:20:25.329 --> 00:20:27.490
passion. You know, this is not about the money

00:20:27.490 --> 00:20:31.869
because I could do it in my sleep. I just think

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that, you know, given that we are competing,

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I don't want to say competing against AI because

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I've used AI, if nothing else, as a helper as

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well. because i think that hey this is where

00:20:45.529 --> 00:20:47.690
we're headed like you know let's be friends with

00:20:47.690 --> 00:20:51.269
ai um because i know some people will have me

00:20:51.269 --> 00:20:57.210
review and edit ai you know content um i still

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i still struggle with being present with everything

00:21:01.269 --> 00:21:05.730
around me um I think that's the reason why like

00:21:05.730 --> 00:21:08.710
my ultimate focus is always to give my 100, like

00:21:08.710 --> 00:21:12.410
100 % or 200 % to the client. But everything

00:21:12.410 --> 00:21:15.690
else in terms of the admin work, like some things

00:21:15.690 --> 00:21:19.450
just get done, you know, a few weeks later. You

00:21:19.450 --> 00:21:22.650
know, it's just that capacity, that individual

00:21:22.650 --> 00:21:26.849
capacity to give 100 % to everything. And I used

00:21:26.849 --> 00:21:29.490
to be one of these people because I have type

00:21:29.490 --> 00:21:32.599
A personality. And I've had to just let go of

00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:35.319
that expectation. Some things are just going

00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:38.420
to get done when they need to get done. But the

00:21:38.420 --> 00:21:42.059
most important aspect of my business is my client.

00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:45.720
It's whoever is in front of me right now and

00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.299
helping them get to their, you know, to help

00:21:48.299 --> 00:21:53.539
them fulfill their objectives. You know, there's

00:21:53.539 --> 00:21:56.140
something I wanted to, that you hit the nail

00:21:56.140 --> 00:22:00.779
on the head with is, I don't have a virtual assistant,

00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:05.339
but I use a lot of different automation tools.

00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:12.420
Now, I don't mean like a bunch of AI, but one

00:22:12.420 --> 00:22:17.059
of these tools that I use, it's been giving me

00:22:17.059 --> 00:22:21.160
so many hiccups. Like I set up a notification

00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:25.779
in Slack just to see what's going on and maybe

00:22:25.779 --> 00:22:29.849
it'll tell me something. unfortunately does not

00:22:29.849 --> 00:22:32.130
always tell me what the error is it's just like

00:22:32.130 --> 00:22:35.349
ran into an error it's like of course can you

00:22:35.349 --> 00:22:38.829
at least expand on that no i was like how are

00:22:38.829 --> 00:22:42.809
you getting a fix for it it's like it's a technology

00:22:42.809 --> 00:22:49.690
what's the name of it slack well this slack is

00:22:49.690 --> 00:22:54.730
just sends me a notification uh so but uh the

00:22:54.730 --> 00:22:59.920
tool that i use for uh a lot of my automations

00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:04.559
i use zapier and everything is just becoming

00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:08.619
a very big pain in the butt and for those who

00:23:08.619 --> 00:23:11.420
might be listening might be saying well why don't

00:23:11.420 --> 00:23:15.779
you just go reach out to zapier support well

00:23:15.779 --> 00:23:19.000
i'm gonna let you in a little bit secret that

00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:21.880
i might be dropping a mic on and you might be

00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:26.039
like i didn't know this and here's the secret

00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:31.359
zapier support is uh is behind a paywall just

00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:35.200
like microsoft and aol and look how well that

00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:39.220
went down for aol uh you see how many i don't

00:23:39.220 --> 00:23:42.240
know how many people are using aol anymore uh

00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:47.299
unlike my dad but other than that well we all

00:23:47.299 --> 00:23:49.599
know where yeah well it's gonna be heading soon

00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:55.710
or later but my point is i just i feel like i'm

00:23:55.710 --> 00:23:58.329
dating myself as soon as you said aol like that

00:23:58.329 --> 00:24:02.150
was back i was a teenager remember those chats

00:24:02.150 --> 00:24:05.869
remember those like chats yeah and then just

00:24:05.869 --> 00:24:10.250
annoying i think um you got mail rodman connection

00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:18.410
yep i remember that uh but those were the days

00:24:18.410 --> 00:24:21.369
i have to say i enjoyed my teenage years but

00:24:21.369 --> 00:24:24.069
you know they were so i mean that's when everything

00:24:24.069 --> 00:24:27.130
the computer era it's just everything was so

00:24:27.130 --> 00:24:30.349
it was so new it was booming i had a myspace

00:24:30.349 --> 00:24:33.069
at the time if you can if you can even imagine

00:24:33.069 --> 00:24:35.470
that but now i don't even i used to have one

00:24:35.470 --> 00:24:39.150
huh i used to have a myspace you used to have

00:24:39.150 --> 00:24:42.750
one too okay i eventually deleted mine because

00:24:42.750 --> 00:24:47.069
i said i i'm barely here you know like i don't

00:24:47.069 --> 00:24:49.549
even know what's going on i think that was like

00:24:49.549 --> 00:24:55.089
the the uh first version of facebook before facebook

00:24:55.089 --> 00:24:58.650
came out yes no it was definitely a prototype

00:24:58.650 --> 00:25:03.130
for sure um but wow like and even today i think

00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:06.190
i was saying to you earlier because i'm an avid

00:25:06.190 --> 00:25:09.190
like um you know your podcast is called crazy

00:25:09.190 --> 00:25:13.680
fitness guy right um I was, you know, I work

00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.299
out like, you know, five times a week. And so

00:25:16.299 --> 00:25:18.559
today was one of the days when I didn't take

00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:22.019
a break. And I was thinking about the fact that,

00:25:22.019 --> 00:25:26.220
you know, just in life, you know, well, I hearken

00:25:26.220 --> 00:25:29.059
to the fact that you need a good trainer if you

00:25:29.059 --> 00:25:31.099
decide to go that route. I use YouTube videos.

00:25:31.420 --> 00:25:36.319
But if you decide to hire a trainer, you want

00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.440
someone who's going to have your back. You want

00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.289
to have someone who. is looking out for your

00:25:41.289 --> 00:25:43.150
best interests. And I think that's the same case

00:25:43.150 --> 00:25:46.849
in our businesses too. You know, one thing I

00:25:46.849 --> 00:25:49.730
used to not like, and it's now that I'm coming

00:25:49.730 --> 00:25:52.529
to, you know, I'm coming to grips with that is

00:25:52.529 --> 00:25:56.789
hiring people who always make you feel like there's

00:25:56.789 --> 00:25:59.650
something you could have done differently in

00:25:59.650 --> 00:26:03.470
your past. So, you know, so for a fitness trainer,

00:26:03.589 --> 00:26:06.410
it's kind of like, well, in 2019, you could have

00:26:06.410 --> 00:26:09.799
been at this weight without realizing that. you

00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:13.500
know life is life happens to people and when

00:26:13.500 --> 00:26:15.980
we work with them we got to be sort of forward

00:26:15.980 --> 00:26:18.660
thinking it's like okay like i know that i was

00:26:18.660 --> 00:26:22.960
working with you in 2019 but now it's 2024 a

00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.000
lot has happened let's focus on where you are

00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:29.279
now and um i think that's so important like even

00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:34.789
in business formation business development And

00:26:34.789 --> 00:26:37.369
even afterwards, like just being surrounded by

00:26:37.369 --> 00:26:39.609
people going to have your best interest at heart.

00:26:41.049 --> 00:26:44.890
I agree with that. For instance, one of the platforms

00:26:44.890 --> 00:26:50.269
I use for fitness is called FitOn. I use it three

00:26:50.269 --> 00:26:52.789
days a week. And you might be wondering, like,

00:26:52.849 --> 00:26:55.069
why three days a week? Because the other three,

00:26:55.210 --> 00:27:02.619
I do kickboxing classes. I'm there three nights

00:27:02.619 --> 00:27:04.740
a week, and then the other three, I was like,

00:27:04.859 --> 00:27:10.519
okay, three and three, six, here we go. On the

00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.400
sixth day of working out, I just do yoga just

00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:19.140
to give myself a, I wouldn't say a big break,

00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:23.099
but just enough to stretch everything out, feel

00:27:23.099 --> 00:27:28.059
good, not overdo anything. Because I remember

00:27:28.059 --> 00:27:31.960
one time I worked out, There was only one time

00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:35.960
during one week where I worked out seven days

00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:43.319
in a row because, I mean, I would just, I went

00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.500
for a lot of bike rides when I was at the shore

00:27:46.500 --> 00:27:50.160
for vacation. And I was like, you know, I don't

00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:53.220
get to bike ride every single time. Because like

00:27:53.220 --> 00:27:56.299
when I'm in Pennsylvania, I don't have a bike.

00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:01.349
My garage is not. not big enough to keep a bike.

00:28:01.769 --> 00:28:07.609
And so I figured, well, I'll get my bike riding

00:28:07.609 --> 00:28:10.369
enjoyment when I'm at my parents' jar house.

00:28:10.789 --> 00:28:15.289
And so I was like, I wouldn't say it's very high

00:28:15.289 --> 00:28:17.849
intensity unless if you're going very fast, but

00:28:17.849 --> 00:28:22.309
my bike is like a beach cruiser kind of bike.

00:28:22.329 --> 00:28:25.369
So you can't really go very fast on it. And I

00:28:25.369 --> 00:28:28.809
found out the hard way. The chain fell off my

00:28:28.809 --> 00:28:32.150
bike at least three times in one day. And I was

00:28:32.150 --> 00:28:34.950
like, I'm done. It's like, I'm either getting

00:28:34.950 --> 00:28:37.769
rid of this bike or I'm going to keep it. And

00:28:37.769 --> 00:28:39.910
I'm going to make sure when I'm riding it, I'll

00:28:39.910 --> 00:28:43.890
go medium to semi -fast, but I'm not going to

00:28:43.890 --> 00:28:48.130
go super fast. It's not like a mountain bike

00:28:48.130 --> 00:28:49.970
where you can just go like, oh yeah, I'm going

00:28:49.970 --> 00:28:54.579
to really work out on this thing. Once I started

00:28:54.579 --> 00:28:57.140
really going fast, I was like, slow down, slow

00:28:57.140 --> 00:29:01.420
down, place change, don't fall off. It's good

00:29:01.420 --> 00:29:04.720
that you're able to go out and biking. I do 5K

00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:14.200
and 10K walks. And I'm working my way to 20K,

00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.599
like in addition to like my five. So you work

00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:21.140
out six times a week. So you better than me.

00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.839
I like to give myself two days a break where

00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.720
I stretch everything. And you said you do yoga.

00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:31.980
I actually got into Pilates and wall Pilates.

00:29:31.980 --> 00:29:36.420
And this has been such a game changer. But yes,

00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:42.009
I am an avid. just health enthusiasts. Like I

00:29:42.009 --> 00:29:45.849
love making sure that I, I move for joy. I think

00:29:45.849 --> 00:29:49.670
that's, that's where I'm no longer for, um, well,

00:29:49.769 --> 00:29:51.269
first of all, if we're going to keep it real,

00:29:51.369 --> 00:29:54.690
you know, I think exercising ensures that we

00:29:54.690 --> 00:29:57.650
don't have to buy a lot of clothes. Like you're

00:29:57.650 --> 00:30:00.230
able to work with what you got, but then at the

00:30:00.230 --> 00:30:02.769
same time, it gives me this adrenaline rush and

00:30:02.769 --> 00:30:06.549
I'm more alert. There's so, so, so many benefits

00:30:06.549 --> 00:30:09.609
to exercising that we wouldn't even have time

00:30:09.609 --> 00:30:12.049
to even discuss in your podcast. But I think

00:30:12.049 --> 00:30:16.210
it's good to meet other people who are health

00:30:16.210 --> 00:30:24.589
conscious. I also got into Pilates as well. Sometimes

00:30:24.589 --> 00:30:28.269
I like to sneak that in during one of my workout

00:30:28.269 --> 00:30:34.250
weeks. If I was having a full week of... away

00:30:34.250 --> 00:30:37.250
from karate just because sometimes it gets boring

00:30:37.250 --> 00:30:39.410
just lifting weights sometimes it gets boring

00:30:39.410 --> 00:30:42.230
just doing yoga sometimes it just gets boring

00:30:42.230 --> 00:30:46.309
i'm just bike riding because i go the same route

00:30:46.309 --> 00:30:52.710
uh because i mean when there's a boardwalk with

00:30:52.710 --> 00:30:57.470
with um to bike ride on it's like That or the

00:30:57.470 --> 00:31:02.990
street. That's easy. Don't have to worry so much

00:31:02.990 --> 00:31:08.369
about cars. Yeah, I'll do that. Yeah. And where

00:31:08.369 --> 00:31:12.589
you live, are they bike friendly? Yeah, the boardwalk

00:31:12.589 --> 00:31:20.190
is bike friendly. They also have... There also

00:31:20.190 --> 00:31:23.279
is like some... bike lanes in the street when

00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.579
there's not enough, when there's a wider enough

00:31:26.579 --> 00:31:31.019
street. But it is very bike friendly because

00:31:31.019 --> 00:31:37.140
the whole island's like 25 miles an hour. But

00:31:37.140 --> 00:31:40.000
then there's some people who drive like 50. It's

00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:45.180
like, yeah, you miss the speed limit by minus

00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:50.940
25. Wow. Well, where I live in Maryland, like

00:31:50.940 --> 00:31:55.599
I like to think like it's not very bike friendly

00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.660
unless you're in D .C. And then also, to be honest

00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:03.519
with you, the way that the the intersections

00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.819
are built, it doesn't really it's not conducive

00:32:06.819 --> 00:32:10.390
or it doesn't even. incentivize someone to go

00:32:10.390 --> 00:32:14.549
on a bike ride because some people are just driving

00:32:14.549 --> 00:32:21.470
like nuts. Even as I'm walking as a pedestrian,

00:32:21.650 --> 00:32:26.029
because there's not a lot of sidewalks, I'm almost

00:32:26.029 --> 00:32:28.849
always afraid. I'm like, someone is going to

00:32:28.849 --> 00:32:32.430
probably not even pay attention to the walk sign

00:32:32.430 --> 00:32:36.710
and just run someone over. It's good that you

00:32:36.710 --> 00:32:41.289
live on an island where you can do that. Well,

00:32:41.430 --> 00:32:44.069
I mean, that just for like during the summer

00:32:44.069 --> 00:32:49.109
months, but here I'm in Pennsylvania and even

00:32:49.109 --> 00:32:51.250
my small little community, I wouldn't even say

00:32:51.250 --> 00:32:55.309
that small, but in my small, medium -sized community,

00:32:55.509 --> 00:32:59.910
wherever you want to call it, let's just say

00:32:59.910 --> 00:33:03.269
it's scary to walk on the main roads because

00:33:03.269 --> 00:33:06.740
there's people who... even though it's 25 miles

00:33:06.740 --> 00:33:09.099
through the whole neighborhood there's people

00:33:09.099 --> 00:33:15.240
who i've seen who did like 60 70 80 and i was

00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:19.279
like i'm gonna say this in the nicest way as

00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.759
possible and maybe some people may or may not

00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:26.140
agree with this and i'm not saying i'm an extreme

00:33:26.140 --> 00:33:30.859
person but sometimes i kind of wish i i mean

00:33:30.859 --> 00:33:35.369
not i wouldn't say wish but With all the technology

00:33:35.369 --> 00:33:40.890
we have, it'd be nice to slow down a car without

00:33:40.890 --> 00:33:49.069
having to create so many speed bumps and whatnot

00:33:49.069 --> 00:33:52.450
and have to repay them every single year or et

00:33:52.450 --> 00:33:57.750
cetera. Or it could cost more money. It'd be

00:33:57.750 --> 00:34:01.440
kind of great if there was some kind of... technology

00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.000
affordable technology that if somebody's going

00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.940
that fast it could just automatically pop up

00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:10.539
and tell them slow the hell down or get them

00:34:10.539 --> 00:34:13.960
to like skip their car a little bit just like

00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.460
you better slow the hell down and and not skip

00:34:17.460 --> 00:34:20.460
the car like or like make them crash or anything

00:34:20.460 --> 00:34:22.820
but just to get them to be like oh wow i really

00:34:22.820 --> 00:34:27.340
should slow down Right. No, I agree with you.

00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:29.199
And even when you're talking about speed bumps,

00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.139
they're like six of them in the parking lot.

00:34:33.340 --> 00:34:35.679
Because for whatever reason, some people think

00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.280
that parking lot is like a highway and so they

00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.000
speeding. And so, yes, I agree with you. I think

00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.500
that they should have more technology. And, you

00:34:44.500 --> 00:34:46.400
know, there are some cars who can actually do

00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.199
that already. It's just that they're more in

00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:54.619
the higher end, which, again, brings me to. you

00:34:54.619 --> 00:34:56.739
know how can we make sure like this is something

00:34:56.739 --> 00:35:00.360
that everyone can afford uh so that's not just

00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.539
for a select few i mean when we're talking about

00:35:02.539 --> 00:35:05.280
safety that impacts everyone not just people

00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.159
who are rich not just people who are poor um

00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.539
or the middle class it's everyone everyone is

00:35:10.539 --> 00:35:16.280
is is um impacted yeah and that kind of goes

00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:21.019
to my next point it's like it's like insurance

00:35:21.019 --> 00:35:23.679
it's like you're damned if you pay a lot and

00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.219
you're damned if you don't pay a lot so it's

00:35:26.219 --> 00:35:30.440
like and it's like and to be honest and not going

00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:33.380
political wise or anything but being just gone

00:35:33.380 --> 00:35:39.099
visiting uh ireland last year socialized medicine

00:35:39.099 --> 00:35:42.460
is not the way to go because according to someone

00:35:42.460 --> 00:35:45.639
over there it was like it takes 10 years to even

00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.849
get in any kind of knee replacement or hip replacement.

00:35:50.289 --> 00:35:53.230
So I was like, okay, so we've got to find a milligram

00:35:53.230 --> 00:35:56.789
between socialized medicine and pay for a fortune

00:35:56.789 --> 00:36:00.590
medicine. And I don't have that answer, but I'm

00:36:00.590 --> 00:36:05.210
sure if I, I'm sure if somebody spent a couple

00:36:05.210 --> 00:36:07.829
of years and putting their time and effort into

00:36:07.829 --> 00:36:09.690
that, I'm sure someone could come up with something

00:36:09.690 --> 00:36:14.539
better than what we have right now. I struggle

00:36:14.539 --> 00:36:20.559
with that question in terms of, because I think

00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:26.480
sometimes systems are built to uphold, you know,

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.619
and again, it goes back to values. And the values

00:36:30.619 --> 00:36:34.539
of some systems are meant to uphold practices

00:36:34.539 --> 00:36:38.860
that may be a bit antiquated and that are not

00:36:38.860 --> 00:36:43.110
going to help people. And then there are some

00:36:43.110 --> 00:36:45.909
other institutions where they are actively thinking

00:36:45.909 --> 00:36:51.829
of ways, innovative ways to make sure that you

00:36:51.829 --> 00:36:55.369
and I can afford this medicine. And so, but what

00:36:55.369 --> 00:36:58.750
I struggle with is the fact that sometimes people

00:36:58.750 --> 00:37:01.829
know that there are silos. They're just not willing

00:37:01.829 --> 00:37:05.949
to do something about it because for whatever

00:37:05.949 --> 00:37:09.190
reason, for some groups of folks, like it benefits

00:37:09.190 --> 00:37:13.380
them. to have those silos established and not

00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:16.719
be disrupted. So my question to all of us, even

00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:19.260
your audience, is that, well, how do we become

00:37:19.260 --> 00:37:22.760
disruptors? How do we become disruptors so that

00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.099
we can see some change? Well, not to tip my own

00:37:27.099 --> 00:37:30.280
horn or anything, but I'm one of the biggest

00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.800
disruptors in a lot of ways. I mean, positive

00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.440
disruptors. I'm not like going out there like...

00:37:39.300 --> 00:37:44.159
Yes, positive disruptors, yes. Like nothing violent,

00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:49.539
no, like not staying out in the hot weather protesting

00:37:49.539 --> 00:37:52.980
or cold weather protesting. What I'm doing, like,

00:37:53.019 --> 00:37:55.159
you know, when I disagree with something about

00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.739
my insurance, I literally go find a person or

00:37:59.739 --> 00:38:02.780
organization to complain to and say, this should

00:38:02.780 --> 00:38:08.960
be illegal. I probably have at least reported

00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.019
my insurance company at least five times. And

00:38:14.019 --> 00:38:16.099
one of them actually called me up the very next

00:38:16.099 --> 00:38:17.860
day and was like, we heard you were very unhappy

00:38:17.860 --> 00:38:19.880
with us. And I was like, that does not begin

00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:26.099
to explain it. Wow. And they called you? Yeah.

00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:32.079
Oh, that's rare. Yeah. I was like, ooh. Well,

00:38:32.179 --> 00:38:35.860
I think what happened is that... I contacted

00:38:35.860 --> 00:38:39.480
my state representative, not the governor, but

00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:42.480
something lower. Again, not going political,

00:38:42.619 --> 00:38:45.059
I'm just naming the position. No, no, no, you're

00:38:45.059 --> 00:38:47.579
helping me understand the hierarchy, okay? And

00:38:47.579 --> 00:38:50.699
I don't know all the hierarchy off the top of

00:38:50.699 --> 00:38:53.159
my head, but it's like something lower than a

00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:56.960
governor, maybe a mayor. No, there's just a state

00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.119
representative. whatever it is representative

00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:04.159
yeah yeah and so then i contacted their office

00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.800
by email just sent to them it's like look and

00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.800
it's like i don't care and this is what i said

00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.980
to them point blank because um because i don't

00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:17.570
like politics whatsoever i said to them I was

00:39:17.570 --> 00:39:20.889
like, yes, I vote a certain way, but I don't

00:39:20.889 --> 00:39:22.610
care for any of the parties at the end of the

00:39:22.610 --> 00:39:27.550
day. They don't help me out whatsoever. So I

00:39:27.550 --> 00:39:30.309
was like, but this insurance, I told them what

00:39:30.309 --> 00:39:32.530
the insurance company was doing. I was like,

00:39:32.570 --> 00:39:34.769
I feel like I'm being a pawn in someone's game.

00:39:35.369 --> 00:39:39.730
And then like two days later, I get a call and

00:39:39.730 --> 00:39:42.230
it's like, we heard that you're unhappy with

00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:45.880
us. And it's like. And it's like, Lola Brady

00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.500
told you. And it's like, Lola Brady. And it's

00:39:50.500 --> 00:39:52.500
like, so now I feel like I'm on their blacklist.

00:39:53.139 --> 00:39:56.780
Because it's like, they probably have a note

00:39:56.780 --> 00:39:59.179
next to them. It's like, watch out for this person.

00:39:59.219 --> 00:40:01.980
Because it's like, Jimmy Claire should. And it's

00:40:01.980 --> 00:40:08.460
like, let's not piss him off. And that goes back

00:40:08.460 --> 00:40:13.590
to accountability. Like, how do we hold? you

00:40:13.590 --> 00:40:16.030
know these companies accountable you know given

00:40:16.030 --> 00:40:18.590
that we're paying them all this money you know

00:40:18.590 --> 00:40:21.309
for a service like what would that look like

00:40:21.309 --> 00:40:24.190
do we need to start telling these institutions

00:40:24.190 --> 00:40:26.590
or companies like how i mean and again this goes

00:40:26.590 --> 00:40:31.150
beyond reviews yeah so you know just giving a

00:40:31.150 --> 00:40:34.849
review so and and i don't have the answers to

00:40:34.849 --> 00:40:38.329
that Just because those are some big conglomerates

00:40:38.329 --> 00:40:42.110
and they, you know, again, supported and financed,

00:40:42.130 --> 00:40:46.710
you know, by other institutions. So how do we

00:40:46.710 --> 00:40:49.469
begin to talk, to have an honest discussion on

00:40:49.469 --> 00:40:55.170
accountability? Well, one of my speeches that

00:40:55.170 --> 00:40:59.289
I recently did this past April, I talked about

00:40:59.289 --> 00:41:05.949
how the health care system is. Not on purpose,

00:41:06.110 --> 00:41:09.730
but it's hurting people with those with extra

00:41:09.730 --> 00:41:13.789
challenges. And I'm not going to share the whole

00:41:13.789 --> 00:41:17.750
thing because it was 30 minutes long. But the

00:41:17.750 --> 00:41:22.710
point basically was because doctors are short

00:41:22.710 --> 00:41:26.250
on time due to they have to meet a certain hour

00:41:26.250 --> 00:41:31.210
many quotas and a whole business day. Again,

00:41:31.329 --> 00:41:35.480
varies by office and location. probably other

00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:42.639
roles that only God knows. I basically, I'll

00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:49.239
just say, I said, because they don't have, because

00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:53.699
doctors are strict on time, they are not allowed,

00:41:53.900 --> 00:41:57.420
it's not beneficial for people with extra challenges

00:41:57.420 --> 00:42:02.900
like autism or just any just anything else i

00:42:02.900 --> 00:42:06.960
mean the list goes on i'm just using autism because

00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:12.039
that's what i have and but i mean and if i list

00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.900
every single one i could i could literally have

00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:17.579
a whole episode about every single thing but

00:42:17.579 --> 00:42:22.639
but my point being this for basically uh i said

00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:27.300
because the doctors don't have the don't give

00:42:27.300 --> 00:42:31.550
you the time Well, if I had to play a hundred

00:42:31.550 --> 00:42:36.130
questions, et cetera, well, it's going to be

00:42:36.130 --> 00:42:41.190
not beneficial for the doctor because it's short

00:42:41.190 --> 00:42:45.289
on time, not good for insurance, et cetera. And

00:42:45.289 --> 00:42:47.889
it's not good for me because I'm not understanding

00:42:47.889 --> 00:42:51.090
what the doctor is telling me. And that's beyond

00:42:51.090 --> 00:42:54.829
implementing sensory friendly practices in the

00:42:54.829 --> 00:42:57.550
healthcare settings too, from what you're telling

00:42:57.550 --> 00:43:04.300
me. Yeah. Yeah. So sorry that it took me a little

00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:06.159
bit of time to get those words out, but I was

00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:10.099
trying to simplify 30 minutes of stuff into as

00:43:10.099 --> 00:43:13.440
short as possible. No, I know, because I know,

00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.039
I know that we're, we're coming on time, but

00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:21.519
I just, I just think that that's it's getting

00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:26.519
me to think about like, how, how do we ensure

00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:31.039
that you have. quality well anyone anyone who

00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.460
has autism like quality care like accessing health

00:43:34.460 --> 00:43:38.239
care just across the you know your lifespan you

00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:42.800
know um and then how do we how do we know for

00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.900
sure like by using metrics and and having focus

00:43:45.900 --> 00:43:50.820
group conversations If you are getting the health

00:43:50.820 --> 00:43:54.360
care that you need, and if whether or not you

00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.199
make the best use of these health care resources,

00:43:57.340 --> 00:44:00.719
and if those resources are not there, how can

00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:03.940
we provide them so that we can improve social,

00:44:04.340 --> 00:44:09.480
physical, and mental health outcomes for individuals

00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.460
living with autism? You bring up such... a great

00:44:14.460 --> 00:44:18.059
point and that's another that's another session

00:44:18.059 --> 00:44:20.619
where we could focus on that but i'm interested

00:44:20.619 --> 00:44:23.500
in learning a little bit more and i think that's

00:44:23.500 --> 00:44:26.739
that's the purpose of me working in public health

00:44:26.739 --> 00:44:32.719
like i want um i think that's that's where change

00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.719
can happen you know it's just by building that

00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:39.639
curiosity to learn And then to finding out like

00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:41.960
best practices, because I'm sure there are other

00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:45.000
places where people, I mean, besides Europe,

00:44:45.059 --> 00:44:47.519
I know their systems is not a hundred percent

00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:49.199
perfect, but there, I'm sure there are other

00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.559
places where they, they have these best practices

00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.880
that we could use hopefully. And that could make

00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.719
a difference. Yeah. Because I was like thinking

00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.900
to myself the other days, because like my parents,

00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.909
like, well, you know what? if you pay more money,

00:45:05.949 --> 00:45:09.989
you get better care. And I was like, I know somebody

00:45:09.989 --> 00:45:14.269
at karate who literally pays, like, he didn't

00:45:14.269 --> 00:45:16.349
tell me the exact, a whole amount, but it was

00:45:16.349 --> 00:45:21.449
in the thousands. I don't know how far in the

00:45:21.449 --> 00:45:24.110
thousands, but he's like, he still gets, like,

00:45:24.210 --> 00:45:27.050
pushback from the insurance. Like, if he's paying

00:45:27.050 --> 00:45:32.199
you thousands, you should kiss my ass. Yeah.

00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.440
And I don't think ass is a curse word. It's just.

00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.619
No, no, no. I mean, this is a judgment -free

00:45:38.619 --> 00:45:41.320
zone. And, you know, if I'm not making it any

00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.420
clearer, like there's no judgment on my end.

00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.400
Every now and then you got to use some colorful

00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:52.579
words. I'm a firm. It's a de -stressor. So, no,

00:45:52.659 --> 00:45:57.599
I definitely. I mean, if nothing else, like I've

00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:02.199
learned so much from you and our. in our conversation

00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:07.059
today um and then a lot to reflect on and i love

00:46:07.059 --> 00:46:10.039
those types of conversations because this is

00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.420
very much aligned with my systematic reflection

00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:17.199
practice like you know like with my clients and

00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:22.039
then also for me you know as a person um and

00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.739
so i i you've given me so much to think about

00:46:24.739 --> 00:46:27.719
and i'm looking forward to glean like the insights

00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:32.809
that i get once I'm by myself this week and the

00:46:32.809 --> 00:46:37.070
coming week and just take some notes, right?

00:46:37.210 --> 00:46:41.110
And see like, how can I do my part, you know,

00:46:41.130 --> 00:46:45.449
to bring about some changes too. Well, I definitely,

00:46:45.510 --> 00:46:48.050
I'm glad that I was able to give you some insight

00:46:48.050 --> 00:46:52.050
and I definitely would love to have you come

00:46:52.050 --> 00:46:56.630
back on in the future because I definitely could

00:46:56.630 --> 00:47:00.739
think of like, Part two and part three and so

00:47:00.739 --> 00:47:07.119
on and so forth. And I was like, this is the

00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.000
kind of stuff I like because I was like, wow,

00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:15.199
you know, it's like somebody, I met someone in

00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:22.360
public health. It's like, I wouldn't, I don't

00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.710
think I could ever. get something from my insurance

00:47:24.710 --> 00:47:26.989
company because i would just buy heads with them

00:47:26.989 --> 00:47:31.550
the whole day just because same thing for me

00:47:31.550 --> 00:47:34.349
too like you know i have i pay for my health

00:47:34.349 --> 00:47:38.130
insurance and sometimes i feel underinsured um

00:47:38.130 --> 00:47:41.670
and and i think that's that's always a bummer

00:47:41.670 --> 00:47:44.010
isn't it you know you pay all this money and

00:47:44.010 --> 00:47:45.670
you think i'm gonna have access to everything

00:47:45.670 --> 00:47:48.210
and then when you go to your doctors or to a

00:47:48.210 --> 00:47:50.989
physician's office they say to you well we don't

00:47:50.989 --> 00:47:54.440
take your insurance And it's like, and it's frustrating

00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:57.440
because you realize right then and there that

00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.199
the, you know, the health insurance process is

00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.610
not as transparent, even when they have. you

00:48:04.610 --> 00:48:06.570
know, the information available, you know, on

00:48:06.570 --> 00:48:10.170
their websites. Sometimes it's not written in

00:48:10.170 --> 00:48:13.809
a way that's understandable, you know, for, and

00:48:13.809 --> 00:48:16.469
we're not just talking about people living with

00:48:16.469 --> 00:48:18.829
autism. We're talking about people with other,

00:48:18.829 --> 00:48:21.329
you know, people who are blind. Like I have a

00:48:21.329 --> 00:48:24.650
friend of mine who's blind. And it's like, sometimes

00:48:24.650 --> 00:48:27.889
it's hard, you know, to access this information

00:48:27.889 --> 00:48:32.980
in layman terms. you know, that's again, like

00:48:32.980 --> 00:48:35.380
just user -friendly, right? I mean, we were talking

00:48:35.380 --> 00:48:37.460
about this, even with your microphone too, like

00:48:37.460 --> 00:48:39.900
some, some of the companies, when they come up

00:48:39.900 --> 00:48:42.559
with these products, it's like, are they taking

00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.500
into account the people they are excluding, you

00:48:45.500 --> 00:48:48.099
know, as part of their pilot test for this product,

00:48:48.179 --> 00:48:51.980
right? What if like, you know, someone needed

00:48:51.980 --> 00:48:54.699
to use this microphone, needed to use the microphone,

00:48:54.980 --> 00:48:57.619
but they can't move their hands. What happens

00:48:57.619 --> 00:49:00.380
then? You know what I mean? Like what other sensory,

00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:04.179
uh type of devices that they could they could

00:49:04.179 --> 00:49:08.380
come up with so that everyone feels like they

00:49:08.380 --> 00:49:13.179
can use this microphone right so anyway we could

00:49:13.179 --> 00:49:17.820
go on and on but yeah so my last few questions

00:49:17.820 --> 00:49:20.780
for you uh yes who's your favorite podcaster

00:49:20.780 --> 00:49:26.300
and why and feel free not to say me um my favorite

00:49:26.300 --> 00:49:31.130
podcaster you know i don't i have to be honest

00:49:31.130 --> 00:49:35.570
with you i don't have a favorite per se um just

00:49:35.570 --> 00:49:41.030
because i think that all of you bring um all

00:49:41.030 --> 00:49:43.070
of you have different platforms you cater to

00:49:43.070 --> 00:49:45.610
different audiences and then you have a different

00:49:45.610 --> 00:49:50.030
style of communication i think for me the podcasters

00:49:50.030 --> 00:49:55.429
i've enjoyed the most is are those who are unapologetically

00:49:55.429 --> 00:49:59.750
themselves right uh where the the conversation

00:49:59.750 --> 00:50:02.469
is free -flowing like you and I are doing or

00:50:02.469 --> 00:50:06.909
have done in your in your show um and then people

00:50:06.909 --> 00:50:12.590
who who truly they they truly care about what

00:50:12.590 --> 00:50:15.090
they're doing and they are not afraid to say

00:50:15.090 --> 00:50:18.389
I don't know like there are some questions that

00:50:18.389 --> 00:50:20.710
you know that I have asked them because it's

00:50:20.710 --> 00:50:24.460
supposed to be a conversation and then some of

00:50:24.460 --> 00:50:27.079
them would say, I don't know. And I said, I respect

00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.400
that. Because then the person is not trying to

00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.519
come up with an answer just for the sake of coming

00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:34.440
up with an answer. So those are the types of

00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:39.619
podcast hosts that I prefer. But I am one of

00:50:39.619 --> 00:50:41.460
these people, remember, that I can work with

00:50:41.460 --> 00:50:45.199
anyone under the sun. But it's just a personal

00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.559
preference. I love people who are like that.

00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:51.139
And my last question for you is where can people

00:50:51.139 --> 00:50:53.280
follow you, find you, and learn about who you

00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:56.820
are and what you do? So to learn more about my

00:50:56.820 --> 00:50:59.659
mission and my vision statement, if you will,

00:50:59.820 --> 00:51:04.000
for my earthly assignment, people can find me

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on my website at www .pathwaycoachwriting .com,

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which I know you'll provide to them. They can

00:51:11.980 --> 00:51:14.940
find me on LinkedIn, on Spotify, because I've

00:51:14.940 --> 00:51:19.239
been featured on different podcasts. And I've

00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.599
spoken on various issues. And so that those are

00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:24.840
the places people can find me. Instagram, all

00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.579
social media channels. That's where people can

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find me. Awesome. I'll put those all in the show

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notes. And I would definitely love to have you

00:51:34.420 --> 00:51:37.440
back on in the future because I could literally

00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.199
go on hours on palm hours. It'd be like the longest

00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:49.690
podcast. I mean, one hour podcast. Yes. it would

00:51:49.690 --> 00:51:54.170
be like six hour podcast episode oh my goodness

00:51:54.170 --> 00:51:57.949
you know there is one youtube influencer love

00:51:57.949 --> 00:52:01.170
his content his name uh well he goes by the name

00:52:01.170 --> 00:52:05.030
of fd signifier his podcast i mean his i don't

00:52:05.030 --> 00:52:07.530
know if he has a podcast but his two two videos

00:52:07.530 --> 00:52:10.630
are like one hour two hours long and literally

00:52:10.630 --> 00:52:14.550
after yes it's a thing and literally within 30

00:52:14.550 --> 00:52:17.679
minutes i just say to myself and show You're

00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:20.199
just going to have to just take this in like

00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.940
in bite -sized pieces. So now trust me, we can

00:52:23.940 --> 00:52:25.820
go on and on about what we talked about today.

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I'm looking forward to being on the show. And

00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.460
then yeah, continue to be value added to your

00:52:32.460 --> 00:52:36.000
audience. Thank you. And let's stay in touch.

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Let's stay in touch, my friend. Have a good rest

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