Forgiveness Unlocked: Transforming Anger into Empowerment with Catherine Giovanni

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a brand new episode. Now, let's dive into the

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show. I get the ear molds I want until I spend

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more of a fortune. I was like, gosh, I hate hearing

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it. I mean, they're great when they work, but

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it's a pain in the butt to maintain them. You

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think with $2 ,500 a pop, I can get whatever

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the hell I want. It doesn't work that way, apparently.

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I can customize a car for that much money, but

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I can't do anything with a hearing aid. Sounds

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great. But other than that, it's been a great

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day. But today's guest, her name is Catherine

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Giovanni. And we're going to be talking about,

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if I can pull this information up. Oh, I love

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technology. It's not working. Why is it not working?

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Gosh. There we go. She is a three -time award

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-winning best -selling author of 12 books, a

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dynamic speaker, trainer, and advisor. Her latest

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work, The Ultimate Path to Forgiveness, Unlocking

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Your Power, offers profound insights into the

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transformative apologies, power of forgiveness.

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She is recognized as one of the original founders

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of the independent concierge industry. Wow. She

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has a lot of titles. More than me. Scary. Anyway,

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let's welcome Catherine out. And I'm looking

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forward to seeing where this conversation really

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goes. Hey, Catherine. Hi, Jimmy. Thanks so much

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for having me. So before we get started, can

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you tell us a little bit about who you are, what

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you do, how you got started, and why you got

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started? Well, that's a lot of questions. I got

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started on forgiveness years and years ago. Back

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when dinosaurs roamed the earth, back in the

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1990s, I discovered a... a little industry entrepreneur.

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We had dial -up floppy disks and these big, massive

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computers that you could go get a cup of coffee

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and a sandwich by the time it took to download

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anything. Well, we saw it was fast. Hey, technology,

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right? So we read an article, my husband and

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I read an article in Entrepreneur Magazine about

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this brand new industry called the concierge

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industry. And everybody's used to the concierge

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idea in a hotel, but... Very few people had brought

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it to mainstream America. So we flipped out to

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make a very long story short. We flipped our

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business, turned it into a concierge business.

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And then people started to call me and say, could

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you just help me figure out what to charge? So

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I developed, I wrote my first book. I've written

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12, but that was the first one I wrote called

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The Concierge Manual. Well, then I started to.

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teach customer service workshops. And in those

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days, you didn't bring a soft topic to business

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workshops. It just wasn't done. But I can't legitimately

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teach you to be more friendly and approachable

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if you're angry, because your anger is going

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to bleed through your body language, whether

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you want it to or not. So I had to come up with

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a method of getting people to release their anger

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while they were working. And that's when I came

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up with forgiveness. And I've been sober now

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for 34 years and recovery programs do tell you

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that, you know, one of the steps is you have

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to make amends and you have to forgive people.

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So that kind of all started me on the path to

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forgiveness. And it wasn't until 2021 that my

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friends and I developed this very unique system

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of forgiving people. So my first question for

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you is you, Absolutely have to forgive everyone

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or can you be selective because depending on

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what they have done. Well, first of all, forgiveness

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is selfish. It's personal. You do it for you.

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You don't have to reach out to anybody. You don't

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have to tell anybody. You don't have to talk

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to anybody. You can do it in the privacy of your

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own home. Nobody has to know. And forgiveness

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really means that you want the person out of

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your head. Bottom line. That's what it means.

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See, everybody on the planet, your minister,

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your parents, your teachers, everybody says you

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have to forgive. Nobody teaches you how. So what

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if you don't want to? What if the person you're

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thinking of hurt you so badly, you don't want

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to? And they say, oh, well, Jimmy, you got to

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forgive and forget. Okay, I have a problem with

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that. Because there might be a unicorn person

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on the planet who can magically forget everything

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that ever happened to them. May God bless them.

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I'm not that kind of person. So we're not going

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to forget. So the method that I have is going

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to remove the emotional charge from your memory.

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You're still going to have the memory, but it's

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not going to emotionally charge you anymore.

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And you forgive whoever you want to. On a 10

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scale, with 10 being... unforgivable dumpster

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fire. I don't want to. And one being super easy.

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Somebody who cut you off on aisle four of the

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grocery store yesterday or stole your parking

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spot. You know, you can forgive these people.

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I want you to start with the easy ones and work

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your way up to the dumpster fire. But forgiving

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them doesn't mean they were right. They weren't.

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Forgiving them means I want you out of my head.

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That's what it means. It doesn't mean that what

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they did was right and I'm not condoning it.

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It also doesn't mean I want a relationship with

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you because just because I forgive you, does

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that mean I want a relationship with you? I probably

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don't, depending upon who we're talking about.

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So it's, and it's, it's everybody watching and

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listening to this broadcast, but you know, when

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you see the word forgiveness, you immediately

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think of that unforgivable person. That's fair.

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You don't have to forgive that person. You don't,

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because you don't. You can start with the number

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ones. You start with the easy ones and you work

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your way up. I like that. I think there's only

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a few people that might be staying in my dumpster

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pile just because I'm not going to go into details

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because let's just say one involves a family

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legal scenario. Family is usually on that 10

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scale. I've discovered with the people that I've

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talked to around the US, family is really up

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there. Usually your sevens, eights, nines, and

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tens, there's family mixed in there for everybody.

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And to be honest, it's not like it's the family

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I live with or some of my, but it's like some

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of the, let's say one extended family that just

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happened to do something really, really. bad

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and and so i was like i can't forgive that and

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it's like that's just no person No, you honest

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to God, you don't have to give whoever you're

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thinking about. And everybody listening to this

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is thinking of that unforgivable person. And

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the reason you don't have to forgive them is

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there's so many other things you can forgive

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before you even get to that person. So let's

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talk about that number 10, right? You can forgive

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people, places, and things. Stay with me. Einstein

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proved that energy is neither created nor destroyed.

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And I do have a whole science chapter in the

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book. And if you don't like to read, I have the

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audio version available. But there is a science

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chapter in there to prove what I'm saying for

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all the naysayers who are listening to this.

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But he proved that energy is neither created

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nor destroyed. It just transforms into something

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else, right? So when you get mad, you think that

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your anger goes out of your mouth and just dissipates

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into the air. We all think that. That's not what

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happens. Apparently not. The anger energy is

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just going to hang around you. It's not going

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to go away until you clear it with forgiveness.

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So you're literally going to be, the more angry

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you are, the darker your energy field is going

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to be. Now, for anybody who's listening to this

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broadcast, I'm about to hold a cup in front of

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my face, and it's a very opaque cup I can't see

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through. So this cup represents anger. Look at

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my body language. I'm talking to you and you

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know, I can keep my anger in the back of my mind.

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It's easy. I can go work out. I can go to the

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gym. I can go out to dinner. I can do anything

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I want. Easy. I can manage it. The longer I hold

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on to this cup, the more my arm is going to hurt.

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So now I've got to use two hands. Now look at

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my body language. Now I'm still able to talk

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to you, but I can't really do anything because

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the anger is really starting to bother me. And

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now the longer I hold on to it, now the glass

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is in front of my face and my life is pretty

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much stopped. You and I can't have a decent conversation

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because all I'm going to talk about is the anger.

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And I can't really see any opportunities. I can't

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see the next new job. I can't see a new fitness

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program. I can't see anything because I'm too

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focused on the anger. And my world has probably

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gotten small because it's all I can talk about.

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It's all I can think about. It's all the memories

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in my head. So who wants to be around me? Because

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I'm nasty all the time. Nobody wants to be around

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you. So my way of forgiveness is going to allow

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you to put down that little glass of anger and

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starting with the super easy ones is going to

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help relieve some of your pain and it's going

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to allow them to get out of your head so you

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can actually focus and see opportunities. It's

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funny when you said, I think what you're saying

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is very, is amazing because I've noticed there's

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sometimes where, like, I used to have, let's

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just say, not to make me sound even crazier,

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but let's just say I had a long list of just

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frustrations over the years of, like, before

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I even got into business for myself, I had just,

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like, not even written down somewhere, just up

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here about a lot of companies that I would never

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do business with anymore. And I narrowed down

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that list quite a lot the last couple of years

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because it was just... pretty much every anger

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and angry thought that i could possibly imagine

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just ended up on the list it's like okay i was

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like it might have been something like really

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stupid let's say um let's just say if for instance

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like like maybe it was one of my old computers

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that i used to have That wasn't made right. And

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I was like, oh, I'll never use that brand again.

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But I was like, well, you know, accidents do

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happen. And one of my friends actually had the

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same exact laptop that I had. And it both went

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in the same kind of crapshoot at the same exact

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time, too. And so my point was, it's like, you

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know what? I'll probably never buy from this

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brand again, just because I just didn't like

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how it was made. But I was like, okay, maybe

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accidents do happen. Not everything's made perfectly,

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if only. And so I was like, but you know, it

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doesn't mean I have to go shop for them ever

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again. And so I was like, fine, I'll forgive

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this. And it was like, but I just won't ever

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buy from them ever again. Well, that's the thing

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about forgiveness. You can forgive people, places,

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and things because everything on the planet,

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and this has been proved in science, everything

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has energy around it. So the secret sauce of

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the whole thing is you forgive the energy as

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well. So in this case, you would probably want

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to forgive the company and the energy around

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the company. You might want to forgive the computer

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and the energy around the computer. Why am I

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asking you to do that? Because you have the memory

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inside of your head. And at the end of the day,

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you want the memory gone. You want to stop thinking

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about it. You want to stop being angry about

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it. So you can forgive anything. So let's say

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you were bullied in school years ago, right?

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I was bullied. And maybe on your way to work

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every day, you have to drive by your old school.

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And every once in a while, you'll turn your head

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as you're driving and you'll see the school and

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the memories will flood you and you'll get mad

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again because you're going to remember it, right?

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So let's say you're not ready to forgive the

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bully. There's other things you can forgive.

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You can forgive the building. You can forgive

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the kids who didn't help when you were being

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bullied. You can forgive the energy around these

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people. You can forgive the swings. You can forgive

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the ground, the table, the chair, the desk. You're

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going to forgive your childhood home, the bed,

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you know, the dinner table where you were getting

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bullied by your family. These are all things

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that you can forgive. And at the end of the day,

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that's going to remove the memory, the bad part

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of that memory from your mind. So when you go

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drive by that school again, it's not going to

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bother you. It'll just be another building that

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you're driving by. And the energy and forgiving,

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the energy around the memory is how they kind

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of stay forgiving. Yeah. You know, I have literally,

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like I said, I've literally, they cut the list

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in half. I have also. I've been learning to actually

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forgive myself for some of the things I've done

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over the years that I did in public school that

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I was not proud of. Forgiving yourself is the

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hardest person on the list, isn't it? A lot of

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my clients, they're number 10 as themselves.

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And you're the hardest person to forgive. So

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the fact that you've already forgiven yourself

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for it, that's outstanding. Absolutely outstanding.

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It wasn't easy because there were some people,

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let's say, I ran into years later. And I mean,

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not physically ran into, but I mean, just like

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they showed up somewhere. And let's just say

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those people still saw me the way I was. I mean.

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thinking i was the same person and but every

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day when i looked in the mirror i was like there's

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no way i'm the same person yeah i still get angry

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here and there but it's not like what i what

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i used to be uh in public schools like i'm definitely

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not that kind of person anymore it was like i

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got off some things but then there's some things

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where Something might trigger something else

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just because I'm just having a bad day or I just

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didn't sleep well at night. And then it's like,

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wait, I know why I'm annoyed. It's like I didn't

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sleep well at night. And so then everything that

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would just shrug off, I'm just like, I'm tense.

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I'm frustrated. And I was like, not a particular

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thing, but I'm just like, I'm grouchy. And when

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I'm grouchy, people should run. Forgive yourself

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for being grouchy. There you go. Everybody gets

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grouchy. Everybody does on the planet. And they're

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looking at you through what I call those colored

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glasses because they're looking at you through

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the lens of childhood and you're not that child

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anymore. And a lot of years have passed and a

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lot of water under the bridge and you've learned

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a lot of stuff, but they're still looking at

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you. Well, the last time I saw you, you were

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this, this, and this. So that's another thing

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you can add to that list of people. that you

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need to forgive is you can forgive the childhood

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version of you and the energy around it. You

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can forgive the person who was talking to you,

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who were looking at you through that. You could

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forgive that person. All of these things are

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forgiven. And as you forgive, you're going to

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feel better. You're going to start, your food

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will taste better. You're going to start to see

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things. You're going to start to see new opportunities

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that you just didn't notice before. And the person

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that you were meant to be is going to start to

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come out. because you're going to start to pay

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attention. Because you won't be focused on the

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anger and the memories and all that. You're going

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to be able to pay attention to other things.

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What you're doing is you're creating space in

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your brain for other great things. Exactly. Like,

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you know, there were some people who were in

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my life that weren't, I'd say they weren't really

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good for me. At one point or another, they were...

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not there for a purpose but then we just grew

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apart and so it's like and so I finally said

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to myself it's like why try to rekindle this

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and it's like I was like just let it go and it's

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like it's not worth it and it's like the person's

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not very interested in it or reconnecting fine

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and I was like I don't think this person's right

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for my life anymore. And I was like, bye, done,

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see ya. There's a very, very famous quote by

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a guy named Jim Rohn, who said, you are the sum

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of the five people you spend the most time with.

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So who are you spending time with? I try and

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surround myself with people who are smarter or

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brighter than me. And if you're looking at the

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people you spend time with, and they're really

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not. helping you move forward you might want

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to consider moving on if you live with these

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people okay it is what it is but go listen to

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some great podcasts go out and make some new

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friends go read some really good inspiring books

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there's always something you can do i agree like

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you know my parents like to watch the news a

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lot and i get so sick and tired of the news i

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was like why it's like my dad's always looking

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at something political on uh social media and

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it's like i don't know if that's even true or

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not and it's like well the internet must be right

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and it's like oh yeah okay and it's like oh yeah

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i know they're now so maybe not Yeah. And so

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I'm like, okay, you know, I was like, I don't,

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I can't stand politics. I don't like any of them.

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I don't like the news. The news I care about

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is what's happening in technology, what's happening

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in the media. Like, is it going to affect my

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business? Is this going to affect this? Is that

00:22:09.150 --> 00:22:12.190
going to affect that? And I was like, that's

00:22:12.190 --> 00:22:15.210
more interesting to me. I was like, I can't understand

00:22:15.210 --> 00:22:21.369
stupid politics. I can't. And so basically, like,

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when my parents are watching the news, I finally

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set boundaries with them. I was like... Okay,

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when we're at the shore, if you want to watch

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the news, go do it in another room if I'm in

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the room that I'm in, or I'm going to go leave

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until you're done watching the news, but I don't

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want to hear it while I'm at the shore. Up here

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in Pennsylvania, you can talk about it, but I

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don't really want to talk about it. When I'm

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at the beach, I don't really want to talk about

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it in Pennsylvania, but you can have it on. After

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it's over, we're not discussing it anymore. Boundaries.

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Setting boundaries is very healthy. It's very

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good for your mental health. Now, I don't mind

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if I might have read a headline and then I might

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ask them later on, it's like, hey, did you hear

00:23:14.019 --> 00:23:16.279
about this? And then we might discuss it because

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I brought it up. But that's only because I was

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like, I don't mind if I bring something to the

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table. Not like... while we're eating dinner

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of course but if we're ever just like just around

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each other it's like i don't mind bringing something

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to the conversation uh when i choose to but if

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i don't want to hear it at all i was like la

00:23:40.289 --> 00:23:44.210
la didn't really care That's right. Setting boundaries

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is perfectly healthy. And watching the news.

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The news is very, very negative. It's very dark.

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And I actually don't watch a lot of news either.

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I figure if something major happens, one of my

00:23:54.910 --> 00:23:56.950
two sons will call me and tell me about it. And

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they do. So, you know, we don't watch a lot of

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news around here just because it's so negative.

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I just can't pay attention to it 24 -7. I just

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can't. Now, I literally have this Google News

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on my phone. And so even though I might read

00:24:15.329 --> 00:24:19.509
something in the headlines or something, I'll

00:24:19.509 --> 00:24:22.670
read it. Not the whole article, but just the

00:24:22.670 --> 00:24:27.029
headlines. But I got just from it. It's like

00:24:27.029 --> 00:24:31.769
no need to say anymore. But I basically customize

00:24:31.769 --> 00:24:34.869
it to local news at the shore just to see what's

00:24:34.869 --> 00:24:38.450
going on. If I'm at the shore at my parents'

00:24:38.549 --> 00:24:42.369
shore house, just to see like, oh, is there any

00:24:42.369 --> 00:24:46.490
entertainment in the week or whatnot? I'll look

00:24:46.490 --> 00:24:49.930
into that. I have customized topics. I like fitness,

00:24:50.089 --> 00:24:56.349
TV shows. So I customize it the way I try. as

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best I can do it. Sometimes Google puts other

00:25:00.230 --> 00:25:02.210
unhelpful things right in front of me and it's

00:25:02.210 --> 00:25:04.269
like, are you interested in this? It's like,

00:25:04.410 --> 00:25:11.009
no. An old teacher of mine used to say, garbage

00:25:11.009 --> 00:25:14.410
in, garbage out. So if you put garbage in your

00:25:14.410 --> 00:25:16.250
head, garbage is going to come out. If you put

00:25:16.250 --> 00:25:18.210
garbage in your body, well, you're going to not

00:25:18.210 --> 00:25:20.369
feel very well. You know, that kind of thing.

00:25:21.210 --> 00:25:23.329
try and putting stuff that's good for you inside

00:25:23.329 --> 00:25:27.230
your mind that is loving and is more positive

00:25:27.230 --> 00:25:30.309
is going to do more for your life than putting

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all the negative and the sadness and the resentment

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and the bitterness and all of that that's just

00:25:34.450 --> 00:25:37.650
going to make you feel bad so forgive allow you

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to So forgiving people will allow the good stuff

00:25:41.609 --> 00:25:44.730
that you want to do enter in. Going to the gym,

00:25:44.809 --> 00:25:47.109
watching a good movie, the stuff that you really

00:25:47.109 --> 00:25:49.170
like, listening to some good music. It's going

00:25:49.170 --> 00:25:51.509
to allow you to pay attention to stuff that you

00:25:51.509 --> 00:25:53.829
really want to pay attention to that's actually

00:25:53.829 --> 00:25:58.069
good for you. And that's why I like a 50 -50

00:25:58.069 --> 00:26:01.549
balance. So I can say like, okay, here's some

00:26:01.549 --> 00:26:04.769
not so good news, but then here's something I'm

00:26:04.769 --> 00:26:08.069
interested in. And so I might scan the headline

00:26:08.069 --> 00:26:10.369
and it's like, got it. And I'm onto the next

00:26:10.369 --> 00:26:12.750
thing already. And I'm not just like scrolling

00:26:12.750 --> 00:26:15.349
through, but then I might come across an article

00:26:15.349 --> 00:26:17.349
that's like, oh, you know, I actually want to

00:26:17.349 --> 00:26:20.509
redo this thing because it's about my industry.

00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:24.920
for health and wellness or I'm just staying on

00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:28.119
top of media. And so I was like, okay, there's

00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:32.480
like, still learning something new. And then

00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:37.660
it was like TV shows or what's coming to Netflix

00:26:37.660 --> 00:26:40.079
are like, oh, let me go check this out because

00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:44.039
I'm interested. But it's not like I'm just reading

00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:48.799
all negative articles all day long. I don't know

00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:53.670
why people like, getting news from social media.

00:26:53.890 --> 00:26:57.369
It's like, literally, I'm going to tell a secret

00:26:57.369 --> 00:26:59.269
to everybody and it's probably not a secret.

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Pretty much because I've learned video editing

00:27:03.789 --> 00:27:09.990
from my school in college and I've learned it

00:27:09.990 --> 00:27:12.849
on my own during my business as well. Anybody

00:27:12.849 --> 00:27:15.829
can literally take a clip from somebody that

00:27:15.829 --> 00:27:19.609
says one thing, take a little snippet, like that

00:27:19.609 --> 00:27:23.130
much, And by the time when people are done just

00:27:23.130 --> 00:27:25.710
taking the bits and pieces, even if it's a one

00:27:25.710 --> 00:27:28.589
minute clip, they can make it sound like that

00:27:28.589 --> 00:27:32.069
person said something that they didn't say. So

00:27:32.069 --> 00:27:35.730
just realize that when you're on social media,

00:27:36.089 --> 00:27:40.289
let's say it was like a political ad or something,

00:27:40.430 --> 00:27:44.779
not gun politics, just use an example. Somebody

00:27:44.779 --> 00:27:47.000
could literally take something from multiple

00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.220
different speeches, put it in one minute clip,

00:27:50.500 --> 00:27:53.460
and it's like, this person said that. And if

00:27:53.460 --> 00:27:58.019
you go back to some original clips, and watch

00:27:58.019 --> 00:28:00.500
the whole entire thing, you would never ever

00:28:00.500 --> 00:28:03.359
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Chat and talk to these people because you're

00:28:36.769 --> 00:28:38.970
doing it for you. You're not doing it for them.

00:28:39.049 --> 00:28:41.130
It doesn't mean they were correct. It just means

00:28:41.130 --> 00:28:43.990
you want to be free. It also doesn't matter if

00:28:43.990 --> 00:28:46.529
they're alive or dead with all due respect because

00:28:46.529 --> 00:28:49.130
you're doing it for you. So where they are or

00:28:49.130 --> 00:28:52.730
are not doesn't matter at all. So if you're writing

00:28:52.730 --> 00:28:54.910
down your list, you can literally write down

00:28:54.910 --> 00:28:57.670
anybody and you sit in the privacy of your own

00:28:57.670 --> 00:28:59.549
home and a fat bunch of worksheets in the book,

00:28:59.589 --> 00:29:02.490
but sit in your privacy of your own home and

00:29:02.490 --> 00:29:04.980
you do this for yourself. And you don't have

00:29:04.980 --> 00:29:06.859
to tell anybody if you don't want to. Now, if

00:29:06.859 --> 00:29:09.240
you want to reach out and talk to people, that's

00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.900
great. But if you don't, you don't have to. You

00:29:12.900 --> 00:29:14.880
do this for you because you're the prisoner,

00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.299
not them. They're probably not thinking about

00:29:17.299 --> 00:29:19.740
you at all, which might make you angry too. You

00:29:19.740 --> 00:29:21.920
want them to be as miserable as you, right? It's

00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.039
like fun match. You know, you should be mad too.

00:29:24.099 --> 00:29:26.640
They're not. They're living their life. And you're

00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.859
the one staying home angry. That's a bummer.

00:29:29.859 --> 00:29:34.890
I want everybody to see. And it's like going

00:29:34.890 --> 00:29:37.250
on Facebook and you see one of your childhood

00:29:37.250 --> 00:29:39.809
bullies, right? And you see that they broke their

00:29:39.809 --> 00:29:43.089
leg. And I don't care who you are. Nine out of

00:29:43.089 --> 00:29:45.170
10 of us are going to go, oh, well, they deserve

00:29:45.170 --> 00:29:48.289
that. It's going to kind of be in your head.

00:29:48.349 --> 00:29:49.970
You're going to go, I'm not exactly upset about

00:29:49.970 --> 00:29:52.309
this. They broke their leg. Oh, you poor thing.

00:29:52.829 --> 00:29:55.890
And what forgiveness is going to do for you is

00:29:55.890 --> 00:29:57.910
you'll be able to go and see that exact same

00:29:57.910 --> 00:30:01.710
post and you won't care. You won't care. You're

00:30:01.710 --> 00:30:03.430
not going to say, oh, karma. You're just going

00:30:03.430 --> 00:30:06.150
to just go, and you're just going to keep going.

00:30:06.470 --> 00:30:10.390
It's going to remove the emotional charge. Well,

00:30:10.430 --> 00:30:14.109
it's funny that you said that because I went

00:30:14.109 --> 00:30:17.650
back to my high school reunion a couple of years

00:30:17.650 --> 00:30:24.210
ago, and I saw one of the bullies that picked

00:30:24.210 --> 00:30:30.200
on me in high school. He didn't recognize me.

00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.700
He came, like, over my way, never said a word

00:30:33.700 --> 00:30:40.160
to him. But the thing was is that, I mean, like,

00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:43.660
he was never muscular. He was, like, pretty much

00:30:43.660 --> 00:30:48.700
like a twig, always skinny and whatnot. And he,

00:30:48.859 --> 00:30:54.359
like, no muscle, nothing. And he really looked

00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:58.359
full of himself because... I don't think he played

00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:02.740
any sports because, like I said, I think you

00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:06.279
need a little bit of muscle to be able to participate

00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.200
in something. Maybe not necessarily karate if

00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:12.900
you're just doing it for a workout or whatnot.

00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:18.539
But he had this jersey on with his last name

00:31:18.539 --> 00:31:22.619
on it. I'm like, okay. Like, everyone else is

00:31:22.619 --> 00:31:25.670
like... I mean, they weren't like dressed up

00:31:25.670 --> 00:31:29.690
like super nice, but my goodness, this guy wears

00:31:29.690 --> 00:31:36.470
his last name on a jersey to this place. I'm

00:31:36.470 --> 00:31:39.369
like, okay, he's a little bit too old. I mean,

00:31:39.450 --> 00:31:42.089
it's like, yes, I'm going to, it's like me going

00:31:42.089 --> 00:31:43.650
into somewhere. It's like, yes, I'm going to

00:31:43.650 --> 00:31:50.890
wear Claire on my last name. Really? He kind

00:31:50.890 --> 00:31:54.289
of looked smug too, but he never said anything

00:31:54.289 --> 00:31:57.390
to me and I didn't say anything to him. And I

00:31:57.390 --> 00:32:00.450
was like, well, I'm glad something didn't change.

00:32:01.730 --> 00:32:05.190
Silence is golden in this particular case. Yeah.

00:32:05.309 --> 00:32:09.390
And I remember when I stood up to the bullies,

00:32:09.390 --> 00:32:15.009
I remember we kind of had this agreement where

00:32:15.009 --> 00:32:19.609
that... They didn't bother me. I didn't bother

00:32:19.609 --> 00:32:30.069
them. I don't think he ever glanced my way, but

00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:33.890
if he did, I think he remembered the deal because

00:32:33.890 --> 00:32:38.910
he just never said anything to me. He just squeezed

00:32:38.910 --> 00:32:43.569
between me and someone else to get a drink from

00:32:43.569 --> 00:32:46.549
the bar. I mean, I wasn't drinking that night

00:32:46.549 --> 00:32:50.009
or anything. It just happened to be in a local

00:32:50.009 --> 00:32:54.210
bar near us. And so I went, but I was like, I

00:32:54.210 --> 00:32:57.750
never have to come back ever again. That's the

00:32:57.750 --> 00:33:00.769
thing. In some part of your mind, you probably

00:33:00.769 --> 00:33:03.809
forgave him. And there was really very little

00:33:03.809 --> 00:33:05.990
emotional charge. Now, you're not going to forget,

00:33:06.230 --> 00:33:08.869
because I don't know anybody who can forget these

00:33:08.869 --> 00:33:12.599
things. But when you met him, it just... It didn't

00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.200
set you off like it normally would because you'd

00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.380
already put it to bed. You'd already forgiven

00:33:17.380 --> 00:33:20.119
it and you'd moved on. And clearly he must have

00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:24.799
too. Yeah. Or because when I really scared him

00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:29.720
in high school, maybe that terror kept him in

00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:36.319
that day. I don't think so. I mean, I didn't

00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.859
do anything evil. Nothing doesn't bother you

00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:41.119
anymore. And you were able to be in the same

00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.160
place and not bother each other. And that's beautiful.

00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.480
You know, it's like going back for Thanksgiving

00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:48.240
dinner and you know you're going to be sitting

00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:51.079
next to Aunt Martha, for example. And apologies

00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.299
to anybody whose name is Martha. I'm not picking

00:33:53.299 --> 00:33:56.619
on you. You've got to sit next to Aunt Martha.

00:33:56.619 --> 00:33:59.259
You know what she's going to say. You know how

00:33:59.259 --> 00:34:02.400
she's going to act. She does it every year. And

00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.740
you're sitting next to her every year, even though

00:34:04.740 --> 00:34:07.539
you've been to them, please don't sit me next

00:34:07.539 --> 00:34:10.699
to Aunt Martha, but somehow you're next to her

00:34:10.699 --> 00:34:12.320
because nobody else wants to sit next to this

00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.579
person. So by forgiving Aunt Martha and the energy

00:34:15.579 --> 00:34:18.360
around Aunt Martha, it's not going to prevent

00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.619
anybody from you sitting next to her, but she's

00:34:21.619 --> 00:34:24.599
not going to bother you as much. And what she

00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.699
says, you're going to hear it, but it won't bother

00:34:27.699 --> 00:34:30.610
you as much. In fact, you might even laugh about

00:34:30.610 --> 00:34:33.550
it because you're going to expect it. You know,

00:34:33.590 --> 00:34:35.469
one person looked at me and said, I'm just going

00:34:35.469 --> 00:34:37.570
to make it a drinking game. Every time she says

00:34:37.570 --> 00:34:39.110
what I think she's going to say, I'm just going

00:34:39.110 --> 00:34:41.929
to take a drink. Okay, however you want to get

00:34:41.929 --> 00:34:45.289
through it, it's fine with me. But she's not

00:34:45.289 --> 00:34:48.269
going to bother you as much. So it's going to

00:34:48.269 --> 00:34:50.789
be an easier, and everybody at the table is going

00:34:50.789 --> 00:34:53.369
to notice that she's not bothering you as much.

00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.400
and people will say did you get another haircut

00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:58.719
did you lose weight what are you doing differently

00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.900
you look so good and you're acting so good and

00:35:01.900 --> 00:35:04.019
you can tell them or not tell them that's up

00:35:04.019 --> 00:35:06.260
to you but that's what forgiveness will do for

00:35:06.260 --> 00:35:08.900
you it's literally changing you from the inside

00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:15.380
out well an answer might soften uh let's say

00:35:15.380 --> 00:35:20.019
for instance like first let's just say there's

00:35:20.019 --> 00:35:24.420
a When I get mad at somebody, whether it's like

00:35:24.420 --> 00:35:29.679
some developers who are just not getting the

00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.820
point or, you know, a better example is that

00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:36.440
there's one company. that I used to go live on

00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.960
their platform. They had to keep on taking away

00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.179
mine. They had this badge system. It's not like

00:35:42.179 --> 00:35:46.280
a verified system like social media has, but

00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:50.800
they had this coaching badge. And I used to have

00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.219
it when it was called a different platform. But

00:35:54.219 --> 00:35:59.039
then when another company took over, they took

00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:03.079
it away from me. I'm like, really? And so...

00:36:03.929 --> 00:36:07.489
I said to myself, do I even want to go back on

00:36:07.489 --> 00:36:11.309
the platform? I can still use it here and there,

00:36:11.550 --> 00:36:15.550
but I can't go live on it. But I was like, do

00:36:15.550 --> 00:36:18.469
I even care to go live on it anymore? I don't

00:36:18.469 --> 00:36:25.590
know. But my point being is like, the response

00:36:25.590 --> 00:36:29.650
between emails from me to that company is like

00:36:29.650 --> 00:36:32.230
once in a blue moon that they respond. And when

00:36:32.230 --> 00:36:34.849
they do, they say, we're sorry that you had this

00:36:34.849 --> 00:36:37.369
bug and it's like i didn't say anything about

00:36:37.369 --> 00:36:42.150
a bug yet uh the problem was ripped yeah and

00:36:42.150 --> 00:36:46.170
so i was inside me getting frustrated i was like

00:36:46.170 --> 00:36:48.329
you know actually i could just delete my account

00:36:48.329 --> 00:36:52.369
right now and and never do anything with them

00:36:52.369 --> 00:36:56.739
again I was like, oh, I could just apply for

00:36:56.739 --> 00:37:01.860
this badge for going live on it and say, you

00:37:01.860 --> 00:37:04.699
know, I used to have this until you took over

00:37:04.699 --> 00:37:09.219
and then you took it away without any reason

00:37:09.219 --> 00:37:12.380
whatsoever. I was like, shouldn't you just grandfather

00:37:12.380 --> 00:37:19.179
me in? But basically, I couldn't figure it out.

00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.039
So I was like, I'm just going to put a pin in

00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:26.710
that. And I was like, maybe I'll revisit that

00:37:26.710 --> 00:37:29.130
at some point. But I was like, it's not my top

00:37:29.130 --> 00:37:32.530
priority. When you run into a brick wall, you've

00:37:32.530 --> 00:37:35.230
got a couple choices. And a lot of motivational

00:37:35.230 --> 00:37:38.010
coaches will say, you've got to break through

00:37:38.010 --> 00:37:40.289
the wall and get out that jackhammer. And here

00:37:40.289 --> 00:37:41.929
are some tools that are going to help you get

00:37:41.929 --> 00:37:47.130
through the wall. Okay. Hold on a second. I'm

00:37:47.130 --> 00:37:49.690
going to tell you to pull out a few bricks out

00:37:49.690 --> 00:37:53.739
of the wall. Walk around the wall. Keep going,

00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:57.019
circle back when you can. The wall is still going

00:37:57.019 --> 00:37:59.300
to be there, but you might as well forgive what

00:37:59.300 --> 00:38:02.159
you can and keep going. And if you want to circle

00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:05.300
back and forgive them later, brilliant. If you

00:38:05.300 --> 00:38:11.719
don't, brilliant. Both are correct. Well, yesterday

00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:18.599
I had to do a little bit of work when a friend

00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:23.039
was visiting me at my permanent storehouse. And

00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:28.659
I was basically, I took two hours to get some

00:38:28.659 --> 00:38:34.420
stuff done. And then I noticed that there was

00:38:34.420 --> 00:38:37.739
this error happening with one of my social media

00:38:37.739 --> 00:38:40.760
marketing tools that I used. my only one tool

00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.500
that I used for posting on my platforms. And

00:38:44.500 --> 00:38:46.840
it only happened with my profiles on the platform.

00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:49.420
It wasn't anything with Crazy Fitness Guy or

00:38:49.420 --> 00:38:51.519
anything. It's like, this is really strange.

00:38:52.219 --> 00:38:54.980
And the integration that they have is Zapier.

00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.380
And I was like, okay, I'm feeling, I'm getting

00:38:58.380 --> 00:39:02.969
frustrated. i could feel it building up inside

00:39:02.969 --> 00:39:07.070
me and one thing i did instead of making me a

00:39:07.070 --> 00:39:09.969
little frustrated because i can't contact zapier

00:39:09.969 --> 00:39:15.349
because they put their uh they put their uh support

00:39:15.349 --> 00:39:19.809
under a paywall just like microsoft did and aol

00:39:19.809 --> 00:39:24.570
did and and one thing i said when i too when

00:39:24.570 --> 00:39:27.329
i reached out to this my marketing tool i was

00:39:27.329 --> 00:39:31.530
like now before you ask me to go talk to zapier

00:39:31.530 --> 00:39:35.500
i was like It's not a possibility because I'm

00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:37.840
not going to go pay them for support because

00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.019
one, you could either get really great support

00:39:41.019 --> 00:39:45.119
or two, you can get really bad support. And then

00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:48.119
I just wasted a boatload of money and it costs

00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:53.079
by the month. So you can pay for a year, at least

00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:57.739
I don't think so. But my point being, so I reached

00:39:57.739 --> 00:40:01.079
out to my marketing tool and I said, Hey, can

00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:03.340
we meet to troubleshoot this? And it's like,

00:40:03.500 --> 00:40:06.940
it says this is an error on your end or through

00:40:06.940 --> 00:40:10.320
Zapier. I don't know. I'm not blaming anybody.

00:40:10.579 --> 00:40:14.780
I don't know. I can contact Zapier. But it's

00:40:14.780 --> 00:40:17.639
like, I can't troubleshoot with them. Can we

00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:20.079
do something? And so they're handing me their

00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.460
schedule tool, schedule something with them.

00:40:23.500 --> 00:40:26.349
It's like. Oh, that went really easy. I was like,

00:40:26.349 --> 00:40:30.190
I was like years ago, I probably would just fume.

00:40:30.190 --> 00:40:32.630
It's like, now what do I do? I had to work through

00:40:32.630 --> 00:40:34.789
this problem. It's like, that's good. Something

00:40:34.789 --> 00:40:39.469
else can do this. When I come up with a problem

00:40:39.469 --> 00:40:41.449
and I really do do this, I've been doing it for

00:40:41.449 --> 00:40:44.230
years and let's say it's a really bad problem

00:40:44.230 --> 00:40:47.630
I have to solve or it's a, you know, people fighting

00:40:47.630 --> 00:40:50.500
or. or maybe somebody screwed up or something

00:40:50.500 --> 00:40:53.539
like that. Before I get angry, I always say,

00:40:53.539 --> 00:40:57.300
what is the most loving way I can fix this? Really

00:40:57.300 --> 00:40:59.900
say that to myself. And I'll sit down and I'll

00:40:59.900 --> 00:41:02.300
get really quiet because I always kind of think

00:41:02.300 --> 00:41:04.159
it's better to think before you speak. And I'll

00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.380
try and take a couple seconds and think to myself,

00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:09.619
what is the most loving way I can get this resolved?

00:41:09.980 --> 00:41:12.880
And usually I figure it out pretty quickly once

00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:15.409
I have that thought. Because it's so much better

00:41:15.409 --> 00:41:17.829
to laugh than it is to cry. I look horrible when

00:41:17.829 --> 00:41:20.250
I'm crying and angry. So I much prefer to joke

00:41:20.250 --> 00:41:23.010
and laugh and, you know, get through life that

00:41:23.010 --> 00:41:26.630
way. It's a lot more fun. Well, exactly what

00:41:26.630 --> 00:41:29.889
I did yesterday when I contacted my social media

00:41:29.889 --> 00:41:33.530
marketing tool. I said, it's like when I brought

00:41:33.530 --> 00:41:36.590
up the whole Zapier thing, I said to them, I

00:41:36.590 --> 00:41:39.210
was like, Hey, guess what? And I was like, I

00:41:39.210 --> 00:41:42.030
can't count that Zapier because of they put behind

00:41:42.030 --> 00:41:44.929
payroll. And he's like, we already know how that

00:41:44.929 --> 00:41:48.769
worked out for AOL. So, and so I just make a

00:41:48.769 --> 00:41:52.289
bunch of jokes. But if you can get through support

00:41:52.289 --> 00:41:56.789
at all, I've discovered in today's world, it's

00:41:56.789 --> 00:42:01.389
very hard to even find a support person. If you

00:42:01.389 --> 00:42:04.710
need support on Facebook, good luck to you. I

00:42:04.710 --> 00:42:08.570
know. Good luck. I've tried. Good luck. Yeah.

00:42:09.590 --> 00:42:12.190
But basically what I'm saying is that instead

00:42:12.190 --> 00:42:14.889
of me getting all annoyed, I made a joke out

00:42:14.889 --> 00:42:17.969
of it. Oh, yeah, well, you know how it all worked

00:42:17.969 --> 00:42:23.090
out with all that stuff. I don't know how they're

00:42:23.090 --> 00:42:27.889
doing financially, but I was like, yeah, I don't

00:42:27.889 --> 00:42:29.590
think anybody's paying for them for support.

00:42:29.929 --> 00:42:33.929
I could be wrong, but. You know, going to life,

00:42:33.969 --> 00:42:37.090
forgiving as much as you can and treating things

00:42:37.090 --> 00:42:40.130
with love and treating things with laughter and

00:42:40.130 --> 00:42:42.469
taking all these things with a grain of salt,

00:42:42.530 --> 00:42:45.309
as my grandfather used to say. It's going to

00:42:45.309 --> 00:42:49.289
make your life less stressful. And you get rid

00:42:49.289 --> 00:42:52.329
of all that toxicity, you know, because anger

00:42:52.329 --> 00:42:56.869
is toxic. It rubs off on you. It does rub off

00:42:56.869 --> 00:43:01.909
on you, 100%. So my next few questions for you

00:43:01.909 --> 00:43:08.130
is, why do people not practice forgiveness? Is

00:43:08.130 --> 00:43:11.349
it just because they don't want to do it and

00:43:11.349 --> 00:43:13.650
they'd rather just be grumpy? They don't know

00:43:13.650 --> 00:43:16.610
how. Nobody teaches people how to forgive. So

00:43:16.610 --> 00:43:19.869
when somebody says you have to forgive and you're

00:43:19.869 --> 00:43:22.909
immediately thinking of that unforgivable, they

00:43:22.909 --> 00:43:25.510
hurt me a lot. And you're in your head, you're

00:43:25.510 --> 00:43:27.530
going, I don't want to. So you don't because

00:43:27.530 --> 00:43:31.050
it's too big and too dark to face. So my method

00:43:31.050 --> 00:43:34.349
is, okay, you have to forgive. Let's start with

00:43:34.349 --> 00:43:36.690
the easy ones that you're willing to forgive.

00:43:37.420 --> 00:43:39.659
It could be you're standing next to somebody

00:43:39.659 --> 00:43:41.380
and they brush their teeth wrong. It could be

00:43:41.380 --> 00:43:43.380
something as simple as that. They took a sip

00:43:43.380 --> 00:43:45.760
out of their coffee and they made that slurp

00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.940
sound and it drove me crazy. Okay, forgive that

00:43:48.940 --> 00:43:51.659
person for slurping their coffee. You can forgive

00:43:51.659 --> 00:43:54.679
these little things and that's going to help

00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.460
you eventually get to the big thing. Now, how

00:43:57.460 --> 00:43:59.440
long will it take you to get to the big thing?

00:43:59.960 --> 00:44:02.340
You might get there tomorrow. You might get there

00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:06.480
in a couple weeks, a couple months. This is a

00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:08.679
marathon. It's not a sprint. It'll take as long

00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.460
as it takes, but be kind to yourself because

00:44:11.460 --> 00:44:14.139
this is a process. It's a breadcrumb trail, and

00:44:14.139 --> 00:44:16.059
you're just going to kind of follow the breadcrumbs.

00:44:16.219 --> 00:44:18.019
Just start with the easy ones, and that's what

00:44:18.019 --> 00:44:20.219
the problem is with most people. They don't know

00:44:20.219 --> 00:44:21.980
how to forgive, so they're immediately going

00:44:21.980 --> 00:44:24.219
to the hardest thing on their list. Yeah, that's

00:44:24.219 --> 00:44:27.719
not my reaction. I like to do the easy ones first.

00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.139
Yeah, that definitely sounds like some times

00:44:31.139 --> 00:44:35.760
where I'm going straight to... the hard one.

00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:39.000
Yeah, you go straight to the hardest thing on

00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.420
your desk that a client is giving you and I'm

00:44:41.420 --> 00:44:44.019
going to tackle the hardest one. Okay, if there's

00:44:44.019 --> 00:44:46.380
a deadline, you're going to have to. You know,

00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:48.300
it is what it is. But if there's no deadline

00:44:48.300 --> 00:44:50.199
and you have a choice, well, I'm going to cork

00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.019
off the easy ones first and then I'll get to

00:44:52.019 --> 00:44:53.900
the hard one after I've had a cup of coffee.

00:44:55.739 --> 00:44:58.949
And that's basically what I... did when i reached

00:44:58.949 --> 00:45:02.110
out to the marketing tool because like okay i

00:45:02.110 --> 00:45:04.869
i have a couple more things coming out this month

00:45:04.869 --> 00:45:09.570
need to uh how the material work and but then

00:45:09.570 --> 00:45:14.489
it's like okay i want to make this i want to

00:45:14.489 --> 00:45:17.489
make this as easy as possible so for my upcoming

00:45:17.489 --> 00:45:22.210
trip i'm not feeling like Is this going to work?

00:45:22.389 --> 00:45:26.670
I don't know. And just keeping me guessing all

00:45:26.670 --> 00:45:28.550
at the same time. And it's like, I don't like

00:45:28.550 --> 00:45:32.269
the feeling of this. So I decided it was like.

00:45:32.780 --> 00:45:35.500
just reach out to the support that you can reach

00:45:35.500 --> 00:45:38.000
out to. I'm sure that they probably have somebody

00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.360
capable on that end because they obviously made

00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.559
an integration and it's like it can be literally

00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:50.179
an easy fix when I meet with them. I forget when

00:45:50.179 --> 00:45:53.440
I'm meeting with them but it's in my email but

00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.739
I was like How bad can it be? I was like, I already

00:45:56.739 --> 00:46:00.280
met with them once on a different kind of issue

00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.920
and they fixed it, kept me in the loop. Took

00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:07.159
a few weeks, but I was like, as long as you fix

00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.559
it, what the heck? Do the easy ones first. You

00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.579
know, somebody said it's like grabbing the low

00:46:13.579 --> 00:46:15.840
-hanging fruit off a tree and waiting to get

00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.880
to that fruit that's all the way at the top that's

00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.300
hard to reach. So, you know, forgive what you

00:46:20.300 --> 00:46:22.900
can and move on and forgive yourself for not

00:46:22.900 --> 00:46:24.900
being able to forgive. There's somebody in your

00:46:24.900 --> 00:46:27.880
list that you just don't want to. You just don't

00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.780
want to let it go. That's fine. Forgive yourself

00:46:30.780 --> 00:46:33.400
for not being able to let them go. And you can

00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.320
even say that in your mantra. I forgive myself

00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.639
for not wanting to forgive. And that might be

00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:40.780
the only forgiveness you do for the next few

00:46:40.780 --> 00:46:43.380
weeks. So that's fine. It's a start. It's a place

00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:48.659
to start. Baby steps. So how come no one teaches

00:46:48.659 --> 00:46:53.460
this at all? Because it seems like a straightforward,

00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.880
as a kid you always been taught to forgive, but

00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:01.780
why does no one teach this? That's a hard question

00:47:01.780 --> 00:47:05.199
to answer because I've done a lot of podcasts

00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:08.460
in the last month and every single podcaster

00:47:08.460 --> 00:47:10.699
has looked at me and said, I've never heard this

00:47:10.699 --> 00:47:15.030
before. You are too. I'm not sure why nobody's

00:47:15.030 --> 00:47:18.489
ever heard this before. It's a new method that

00:47:18.489 --> 00:47:20.630
my friends and I came up with and it seems pretty

00:47:20.630 --> 00:47:24.449
good and drive to me. But forgiving energy and

00:47:24.449 --> 00:47:27.590
starting with the easy ones and working your

00:47:27.590 --> 00:47:31.250
way up to that dumpster fire. But it just seems

00:47:31.250 --> 00:47:34.130
to me that's a logical way to begin your forgiveness

00:47:34.130 --> 00:47:37.329
journey. And as you start to feel better, because

00:47:37.329 --> 00:47:39.130
you will, you're going to physically start to

00:47:39.130 --> 00:47:42.070
feel better. you're going to it's going to it's

00:47:42.070 --> 00:47:44.250
going to start to make a business it's going

00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:47.550
to start to make a difference now one word of

00:47:47.550 --> 00:47:51.170
warning that i just have to give everybody i'm

00:47:51.170 --> 00:47:53.670
an overachiever i really have written 12 quotes

00:47:53.670 --> 00:47:56.489
so clearly i'm an overachiever and i've been

00:47:56.489 --> 00:47:58.610
god's guinea pig for a long time and i go through

00:47:58.610 --> 00:48:00.710
these crazy things and then i write about them

00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.199
So when I sat down to make my list, I thought

00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.280
this is going to be great. I'm going to write

00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:08.800
down 50, 60 people, but I'm going to forgive

00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:11.260
it like a bandaid. I'm going to rip this off.

00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:13.559
I'm going to be a new person tomorrow. I'm going

00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.059
to do it all at once. And it's going to be great.

00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:21.309
Didn't work out that way because. I actually

00:48:21.309 --> 00:48:23.909
spent the next three days in bed with what everybody

00:48:23.909 --> 00:48:25.969
thought was a stomach flu. And it wasn't the

00:48:25.969 --> 00:48:29.250
stomach flu. It was my body's way of getting

00:48:29.250 --> 00:48:32.769
rid of all of that anger energy. So I suggest

00:48:32.769 --> 00:48:35.590
to everybody, you do 10 at a time, do it before

00:48:35.590 --> 00:48:38.610
you go to bed, because eight out of 10 people

00:48:38.610 --> 00:48:41.949
will get really sleepy when they do these forgiveness

00:48:41.949 --> 00:48:44.289
exercises. And it's because it's your body's

00:48:44.289 --> 00:48:47.550
way of healing itself. Your body heals itself

00:48:47.550 --> 00:48:51.440
when it's sleeping. So take some time to sleep

00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.280
and rest and you'll be fine. I have science to

00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:56.860
back this up. There was a study done in Japan

00:48:56.860 --> 00:49:01.559
by a Japanese researcher called Masumoto. I might

00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:04.159
not be pronouncing it correctly. And it was a

00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.599
Japanese water study. And these pictures are

00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.280
right on Google. Really interesting. And he took,

00:49:10.300 --> 00:49:12.539
I'm dumbing this down really far in the interest

00:49:12.539 --> 00:49:16.389
of time. Two things of water. One container of

00:49:16.389 --> 00:49:19.090
water, he said, he just talked to it, said loving

00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:21.710
things, told it he loved it, said all these great

00:49:21.710 --> 00:49:24.550
things. The other container of water, speared

00:49:24.550 --> 00:49:27.230
hate at it, said horrible things. Then he put

00:49:27.230 --> 00:49:29.570
it all under a microscope. The water he said

00:49:29.570 --> 00:49:32.809
negative things to had these brown and black

00:49:32.809 --> 00:49:36.239
formations that looked really sick. And the water

00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.300
he spoke love to and said nice things to had

00:49:39.300 --> 00:49:42.659
these beautiful white crystal formations that

00:49:42.659 --> 00:49:45.780
were gorgeous. Pictures are right on line. Why

00:49:45.780 --> 00:49:48.280
am I telling you this, Jimmy? Because your body

00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:51.599
is mostly water. So when your self -talk is negative

00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.820
and you're angry and you are yelling at people

00:49:54.820 --> 00:49:57.940
or you're mad, what is it doing to the water

00:49:57.940 --> 00:50:01.280
molecules in your body? So when people say anger

00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.559
is toxic, I'm all about, okay, how is it toxic?

00:50:05.050 --> 00:50:07.150
This is how. Because you're literally turning

00:50:07.150 --> 00:50:10.030
the water molecules in your body a different

00:50:10.030 --> 00:50:13.269
color. So when you forgive, your body is going

00:50:13.269 --> 00:50:15.590
to want to release that and heal itself. And

00:50:15.590 --> 00:50:19.530
it usually does it when we sleep. So how does

00:50:19.530 --> 00:50:25.889
one feel like they're done when they're finished

00:50:25.889 --> 00:50:31.210
forgiving? How do they know when it's left? Gotcha

00:50:31.210 --> 00:50:35.050
on that one. You can go on Facebook. Or you go

00:50:35.050 --> 00:50:38.269
to a party and you can look at that person's

00:50:38.269 --> 00:50:40.849
name or you can look at that building or you

00:50:40.849 --> 00:50:44.590
can look at that bully, if you will, and you

00:50:44.590 --> 00:50:49.010
don't feel anything. You don't care. You don't

00:50:49.010 --> 00:50:51.389
think any good thoughts. You don't think any

00:50:51.389 --> 00:50:55.630
bad thoughts. It's neutral. You don't care. And

00:50:55.630 --> 00:50:58.010
that's what I'm looking for. I'm not trying to

00:50:58.010 --> 00:51:01.340
erase the memory. I'm trying to remove the emotional

00:51:01.340 --> 00:51:04.760
baggage that's attached to that memory and that

00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.920
person. So when you can look at somebody like

00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.840
that example earlier, I said Aunt Martha at Thanksgiving,

00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:13.380
you can walk into that Thanksgiving table, you

00:51:13.380 --> 00:51:15.239
look at Aunt Martha, you're not going to care.

00:51:15.420 --> 00:51:16.960
Okay, you're going to care a little bit because

00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.440
you have to sit next to her again and you've

00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:21.380
done it for 10 years in a row. But it's not going

00:51:21.380 --> 00:51:24.739
to hold the same. emotional charge than it did

00:51:24.739 --> 00:51:27.219
before. You're going to be neutral. That's how

00:51:27.219 --> 00:51:34.719
you know it's gone. You won't care. I was like

00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:40.559
when I ran into this one person at my cousin's

00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.639
wedding and even though everybody else made a

00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:48.920
big fuss about it, I was like, who cares? Exactly!

00:51:49.659 --> 00:51:53.059
You had forgiven. You had done, without knowing

00:51:53.059 --> 00:51:57.119
it, you had personally forgiven this person and

00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.019
you didn't care. Now the family around you might

00:52:00.019 --> 00:52:04.460
be very emotional about it, but you don't care.

00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:08.739
Why is everybody making a fuss? I'm over it.

00:52:08.820 --> 00:52:11.199
Y 'all should be too. You know, that kind of

00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.679
thing. I had a client a while back who went through

00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.119
something similar and she said, I bought your

00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:19.960
book and I left it on the coffee table. And I

00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.079
said, why? And she says, I'm hoping they're going

00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.039
to pick it up and read it. And I followed up

00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:26.880
with her two weeks later and I said, did they

00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:28.840
pick it up? She said, no, it's still on the coffee

00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.800
table, but it makes me feel better when I see

00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:34.320
it there. Nobody should look up. Because they're

00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:36.719
all thinking of their, you know, number 10 unforgivable

00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:38.559
person. They're looking at the cover going, oh,

00:52:38.659 --> 00:52:41.320
I don't think so. I don't want to do that. But,

00:52:41.380 --> 00:52:44.860
you know, the thing is you want to be able to

00:52:44.860 --> 00:52:47.159
go back into the past and into your memories

00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.500
and you want to be able to look at it unemotionally.

00:52:51.139 --> 00:52:53.239
And that's a beautiful thing when you can go

00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:55.260
back there and it doesn't bother you anymore

00:52:55.260 --> 00:52:57.639
because now you can live your life because you

00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.480
don't have to think about it all the time. Well,

00:53:00.579 --> 00:53:07.219
two of the things I want to say about that. When

00:53:07.219 --> 00:53:10.269
I was at this... party for one of my friends

00:53:10.269 --> 00:53:16.090
when she was in the area. Two of my teachers

00:53:16.090 --> 00:53:20.030
in high school came up to me. I wouldn't say

00:53:20.030 --> 00:53:24.349
it really necessarily bothered me because it

00:53:24.349 --> 00:53:30.030
was kind of a continuation of them treating me

00:53:30.030 --> 00:53:33.230
like the same person, but I kind of just shut

00:53:33.230 --> 00:53:36.389
everything off, but I just kind of went back

00:53:36.389 --> 00:53:41.980
at them. a little bit like a jab with my words,

00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:48.320
but I was like, yeah, I was like, let's say that

00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:53.340
person that I was referring to, she reminded

00:53:53.340 --> 00:53:57.579
me of the Wicked Witch of the West, and she didn't

00:53:57.579 --> 00:54:03.019
have a green face or anything, but she had, I'm

00:54:03.019 --> 00:54:06.920
not going to describe her, but for instance,

00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.699
She called me lazy all the time when I was in

00:54:11.699 --> 00:54:13.619
high school, even though I was getting straight

00:54:13.619 --> 00:54:18.420
A's. In fact, I got all straight A's in 12th

00:54:18.420 --> 00:54:22.139
grade and I got excused from all the finals because

00:54:22.139 --> 00:54:24.380
I would literally have to fail all the finals

00:54:24.380 --> 00:54:29.059
in order to not graduate. So I was like, doesn't

00:54:29.059 --> 00:54:33.599
make me lazy. And so basically when I saw her

00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:37.119
coming into the party, I was like, oh, great.

00:54:37.420 --> 00:54:45.199
We let the witch in. And trust me, what she said

00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:51.900
to me there was not as bad as calling her a witch.

00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:58.190
But I shrugged it off like... Yeah, she wants

00:54:58.190 --> 00:55:00.369
to keep seeing me like the same old, same old.

00:55:00.409 --> 00:55:02.590
It's like, I'm not the same old, same old. It's

00:55:02.590 --> 00:55:06.510
like, but it made me feel great. I was like,

00:55:06.630 --> 00:55:08.650
I don't care. It's like, we're out of high school.

00:55:08.849 --> 00:55:10.769
I'm out of high school. It's like, you'll never

00:55:10.769 --> 00:55:13.409
see me ever again. And it's like, and if you

00:55:13.409 --> 00:55:17.610
do, it's like, well, please don't. Forgive all

00:55:17.610 --> 00:55:19.769
of it and move on. You don't need these people

00:55:19.769 --> 00:55:22.760
living rent -free in your head. Yeah, I was like,

00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:26.519
slam the door. There you go. Let's move on. As

00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:30.039
I said, forgive what you can and walk away and

00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.519
circle back later if you want to. But you don't

00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:34.380
have to circle back and actually visit the school.

00:55:34.460 --> 00:55:37.579
You can circle back from your own office in your

00:55:37.579 --> 00:55:40.760
own town and just think about it. But forgive

00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:44.820
what you can and move on, 100%. So my last few

00:55:44.820 --> 00:55:48.360
questions for you is, who's your favorite podcaster

00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:53.010
and why? Feel free not to say me. I actually

00:55:53.010 --> 00:55:55.449
listen to some of your podcasts and I like them

00:55:55.449 --> 00:55:58.969
very, very much. I'm running into some, all the

00:55:58.969 --> 00:56:01.730
names are kind of eluding me right now, but there's

00:56:01.730 --> 00:56:04.710
some really good podcasts out there. I enjoy

00:56:04.710 --> 00:56:09.829
them very much. And where can people follow you,

00:56:09.869 --> 00:56:11.789
find you, learn more about who you are and what

00:56:11.789 --> 00:56:15.250
you do? Well, the book, the forgiveness book,

00:56:15.449 --> 00:56:20.510
Unlocking Power of Forgiveness, right? Is that

00:56:20.510 --> 00:56:23.619
the name? You can go to Amazon, and it's the

00:56:23.619 --> 00:56:25.659
ultimate path to forgiveness, unlocking your

00:56:25.659 --> 00:56:28.360
power. I should have known that. It's on Amazon.

00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:30.940
The audio book, the e -book, and the paperback

00:56:30.940 --> 00:56:33.519
are all available. And you can find me at my

00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:36.239
website, CatherineGiovanni .com. And thanks to

00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.280
my mother, Catherine is spelled a little weird.

00:56:38.380 --> 00:56:41.440
Thanks, Mom. And it's spelled K -A -T -H -A -R

00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:47.719
-I -N -E Giovanni .com. Trust me, that's not

00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.760
even a weird name because I, let's just say,

00:56:50.820 --> 00:56:55.119
I've met some people, not going to name any names,

00:56:55.179 --> 00:56:58.119
obviously, but let's just say that they're, I

00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:01.719
don't say weird, they're very unique. And I'm

00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:04.039
like, huh, I wouldn't necessarily ever come up

00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.579
with that name, but I'm not going to judge because

00:57:07.579 --> 00:57:11.539
I'm not a judgmental person. To understand how

00:57:11.539 --> 00:57:13.539
anybody spells their name, I always ask first.

00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:19.599
Everyone else is fake. That's it. Thank you.

00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:29.199
Just out of curiosity, can you get the books

00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:32.159
in all the bookstores and whatnot? Probably,

00:57:32.300 --> 00:57:35.280
yeah. They're all over everywhere. That's good

00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:39.000
because I find sometimes when I'm looking for

00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.780
another book, I was like... wait why can't i

00:57:41.780 --> 00:57:44.719
ever find this thing and it's like there's one

00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:48.519
person i went on their podcast once and he only

00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:52.719
exclusive like he only promotes it on spotify

00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:56.619
and it's like you know how many uh people you're

00:57:56.619 --> 00:57:59.500
missing out on i mean i never said that to the

00:57:59.500 --> 00:58:02.750
person but it's like What? Don't have it in stock.

00:58:02.789 --> 00:58:05.150
They'll order it for you because it's published

00:58:05.150 --> 00:58:07.309
by England Spark, and England Spark's books go

00:58:07.309 --> 00:58:09.889
all over the world. So I'm sure if it's not there,

00:58:09.929 --> 00:58:12.909
they'll order it for you. Makes sense. So thank

00:58:12.909 --> 00:58:15.070
you for being on the show, and I would love to

00:58:15.070 --> 00:58:17.730
have you come back on in the future. It's my

00:58:17.730 --> 00:58:20.889
pleasure. I'd be happy to. Awesome. Hope you

00:58:20.889 --> 00:58:23.469
have a good rest of your day. Thank you. You

00:58:23.469 --> 00:58:27.570
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